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nfmmalice · 08/05/08, 5:30 AM

Hello, I just recently picked back up my hunter after 3-4 months of Inactivity.. (HAd to Switch to a Mana Battery Spriest for raids)

Since a lot of what seem to be newer mechanics have come into play, I was hoping someone could take a look at my Setup and make suggestions...

I have 3 Rainged Weapons to Choose from: Sunfury, Wolfslayer, and the Ancient Amani Bow off ZulJin that I got 2 Days ago...

Here's an Armory Link: The World of Warcraft Armory

(Please Excuse the Carrot.. I Actually Have Bloodlust Brooch in it's Place with Hourglass)

The Shot Rotation I am using is:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Lightning Breath(Rank 6)
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

Im only getting ~715 DPS Witht the Amani Longbow...

When I first came back, I was using my Sunfury, and this macro:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill command
/cast Steady shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

I was hitting ~845 DPS Average...

Is Sunfury a Superior Weapon? Should I go Back to Wolfslayer?

I HAVE to be missing SOMETHING, because I feel like I should be doing more damage than that...

Any IDeas or help would be GREATLY Appreciated!

Squinky001 · 08/05/08, 6:16 AM

Originally Posted by nfmmalice

Hello, I just recently picked back up my hunter after 3-4 months of Inactivity.. (HAd to Switch to a Mana Battery Spriest for raids)

Since a lot of what seem to be newer mechanics have come into play, I was hoping someone could take a look at my Setup and make suggestions...

I have 3 Rainged Weapons to Choose from: Sunfury, Wolfslayer, and the Ancient Amani Bow off ZulJin that I got 2 Days ago...

Here's an Armory Link: The World of Warcraft Armory

(Please Excuse the Carrot.. I Actually Have Bloodlust Brooch in it's Place with Hourglass)

The Shot Rotation I am using is:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Lightning Breath(Rank 6)
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

Im only getting ~715 DPS Witht the Amani Longbow...

When I first came back, I was using my Sunfury, and this macro:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill command
/cast Steady shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

I was hitting ~845 DPS Average...

Is Sunfury a Superior Weapon? Should I go Back to Wolfslayer?

I HAVE to be missing SOMETHING, because I feel like I should be doing more damage than that...

Any IDeas or help would be GREATLY Appreciated!

A majority of the difference there is going to be due to the macros you're using. The first macro is a /castsequence and forces a 1:1 rotation. With slower bows that proves to be less DPS because of a lot of dead time (time spent between the stead shot going off and waitng for the next auto shot to shoot). The second macro is a /cast/cast macro which gives a rotation based on current weapon speed. If your unhasted speed is slow enough it gives something akin to a 3:2 rotation, a "AS, SS, AS, SS, SS, AS, repeat" which ends up being better DPS with a slow weapon even though you're clipping auto shots. The clipping is intentional to create as little deadtime as possible.

Try punching your gear in to Cheeky's spreadsheet as well as taking all three weapons out to Dr. Boom and testing them with the /cast/cast macro. From my understanding, Wolfslayer is one of the best BM weapons until the badge crossbow because of it's speed lending to the least amount of deadtime in your rotation.

nfmmalice · 08/05/08, 4:04 PM

Well.. I just switched over to Manito's Macro.. and my DPS went up...

But Everytime I try to Aspect of Viper... it turns it off.. ??

And my Kill Command Isnt Triggering.. ?

Korikin · 08/05/08, 4:39 PM

Maybe your shot macro is clicking your aspect of the viper button and turning it off?

Faerdael · 08/05/08, 4:40 PM

Have no idea what the Viper thing is about . . .

As far as kill command not firing goes, it means that your /click line does not match the position where you have the second button. Can't really help you there, you are going to need to find the proper value in the macro to match the position of the kill command macro.

Mondas · 08/05/08, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by Krystallynn

Bingo.

Naj - pet dead
Supremus - pet dead
Illidan - pet dead
Sunwell robots - pet dead

I can keep him alive, but it's a lot of work and I do more dps with him just standing at my side staying alive than trying to work in heals, pulling him out, etc. I'm not an uber hunter who has l33t skills, I'm just an old PvE hunter doing the best he can with what he has

We have shamans, my pet gets accidental heals, but no healer's going to actually heal my pet

Thanks for the reply

A combination of Avoidance (reducing burst damage to 4250), Sporeling Snack, raid buffs and the occasional Mend Pet, Chain Heal or Lifebloom should be enough to keep a BM pet alive throughout the fight.

nfmmalice · 08/05/08, 6:37 PM

Is there maybe a Bar Mod affecting it?

I found the Right Spot... Turns out I had it in Right12 not LEft... But it still doesnt show Kill Command on the damage list in Recount...

Faerdael · 08/05/08, 6:59 PM

Mods such as Bartender and Bongos can affect the value that you need to submit on your macro, as they let you reorder action bars and have their own additional bars as well, which can require a different object to be called on your /click line.

nfmmalice · 08/05/08, 8:33 PM

So.. what should my HAste rating be to effectively thread a 1:1 Macro?

Barradin · 08/06/08, 12:36 PM

there's been a bunch of threads on this, but generally, 1.92s attack speed is where you start to see little to no benefit to using the /cast/cast macro over the castsequence one (I personally see about a 40dps downgrade going to a perfect 1:1 rotation at that speed).

More important though is to see what your attack speed will be with quickshots/dst/drums as you don't want those talents to be providing "wasted haste". Keep your hasted shot speed above 1.6 to 1.7 depending on your latency... this typically means about 85 passive haste with a 2.8 (badge) bow.

sepulturian · 08/11/08, 2:13 AM

Originally Posted by Krystallynn

Bingo.

Naj - pet dead
Supremus - pet dead
Illidan - pet dead
Sunwell robots - pet dead

I can keep him alive, but it's a lot of work and I do more dps with him just standing at my side staying alive than trying to work in heals, pulling him out, etc. I'm not an uber hunter who has l33t skills, I'm just an old PvE hunter doing the best he can with what he has

We have shamans, my pet gets accidental heals, but no healer's going to actually heal my pet

Thanks for the reply

Just a few things that might help. For BT, MH, SWP, make sure your pets have max fire + shadow resists. Helps out a lot. How much stam does your pet have with kings and fort?

NAJ - I remember started BT and having a few problems but not that many regarding pet heals. Just make sure hes full health before the bubble breaks and prehot up after it does.
Sup - Are you pulling your pet back during the kite phase?
Illidan - Phase 1 is a little tricky, I sometimes have to pull him back after a Flame Crash and send him back in so hes behind Illy. Your pet will take a variable amount of damage depending on his position, just be ready to mend pet! Phase 2 I usually just keep her beside me, sometimes sending her in to get a crit for FI and bring her back but really its just safer to keep her by your side.
sunwell robots - If your pet is targeted for a L5, L4...there isn't much anyone can do.

I also have Pet Stay bound to sometime easy for those clutch saves! Hope this helps.

Cauchy|Ticho · 08/11/08, 11:11 AM

This is just to check if I understood a few things right.

Apart from hit if not capped, haste is valued higher than any other stat for us by every spreadsheet and calculation I have seen. In most cases this leads to haste items being best in or close to best in slot. But, haste is "capped" depending on weapon base speed, since Bloodlust+drums+ cooldowns active can lead to steady cast time being longer than autoshot cooldown, resulting in a dps loss - at least, that is the reasoning for the haste cap as I understood it, correct me if I am wrong.

I am playing a hunter twink with access to early BT and full MH. I geared up via badges, t5, and one hyjal piece so far but I am struggling with the mechanics now. I use both BT craftable recipes, giving me 64 haste, and I use relentless.
Gearing further up now is a bit messy. Should I get Bristlebolt Striker form Archimonde? As I understand it, fast weapons are better, but are they really given that haste scales better than any other stat, and looking at nice haste pieces like ZA cloak, ZA neck, valestalker gridle and badge axe?

If I use these pieces I am close to 200 passive haste, which would speed up bristlebolt.
Is it worthwhile to do so or should I keep my Crossbow, stay with the 84 hard haste cap and gear up with the worse scaling but more traditional damage stats like AP, crit and agi?

mako · 08/11/08, 12:02 PM

I don't think you could call yourself a twink =P

Anyway, Bristleblitz is probably better.

Haste can be seen as hit rating. Once you "cap it" (aka reduce weapon speed to "ideal") it provides no real benefit and traditional DPS stats become far superior. So by switching to the slower bow, you open up the ability to pick up more haste and see benefits from it. But it will really depend on your overall gear setup.

You should stay far away from the hyjal haste belt and za haste neck as they are both downright terrible unless you've got greens. Badge axe is good, and ZA cloak is easily on par with the teron one.

NotQuiteThere · 08/11/08, 4:37 PM

First time poster long time reader. Sorry in advance for the wall of text I tend to get in to this.

With all of the discussion of haste cap and when to use haste vs other stats I figure this might be a good spot for my first post.

I would consider myself a ridiculously geared Alliance Dwarf Beast Mastery Hunter in 4/6 Sunwell guild working on Muru.

Over the past several months I have been through testing of multiple different macros and haste gear combinations in order to put up the numbers my guildmates said I should have been putting up. I have used Cheeky's forever and have not quite seen the numbers it has given me...until recently. Through testing multiple variations of macros (ie /cast auto /cast steady /cast KC /cast LB) I would arrange them around in different orders hoping to see at least 2500 or so dps, but I still hovered around 2k. I always thought my low dps was a factor of using the badge bow along with the Dragon Spine Trophy and the rotation being off because of too much haste or something else I was doing wrong. I was at my wits end and decided to instead of using the badge bow like I had been I would go with the Arcanite Steam-Pistol and no haste other than the Dragon Spine Trophy. I had recently gotten the Shivering Felspine and using it along with the badge bow didnt seem to improve things. So with the Steam-Pistol and mojo daggers x2 I just happened to get put in to a group with a Feral Druid, A Shaman, A Warrior, and a Pally and FINALLY I did almost 2600 dps I was ~50 dps from beating our Dual warglaive rogue.

I have been using the badge bow for some time now along with Dragon Spine Trophy. Even with the Arcanite Steam Pistol the WWS most nights does not look right at ALL. Both with the bow and the gun there are usually always strings of steady shots. Almost like a 2:1 rotation a good portion of the time. As for approching the "haste cap" with DST should one wear any haste items at all? Wouldn't the haste from Improved Aspect of the Hawk enough along with the to push one over the limit when it comes to "haste cap". I always thought that the use of haste would help combat latency in order to prevent steady strings. Wouldn't everyones "haste cap" be different?

I usually sit at about 170ms Latency and use 3:2 of some variation.

With Badge bow I can either sit at 2.03 unhasted or I can use the Pistol and sit at 2.1 unhasted. I can put on various haste items to lower both speeds dramatically. Pistol with Felspine is 2.03. Badge bow with felspine 1.96. I also have Grip of Mannoroth and Grips of Damnation to play with for additional haste without a terrible loss of dps according to the spreadsheet. Still havent gotten the haste cloak from Zul'Aman to drop.

With all of the haste procs from rapid fire, drums, heroism, IAotH at once I go well below 1.2 close around .7 shot speed. Would it be viable to try and use a 2:1 when shot speed is this low and then use the 3:2 when >= 1.6 shot speed and have it turn in to a 1:1 or 3:2 rejecting such a thing as a "haste cap"?

With many different combinations of haste I still see these steady shot strings while just using the 3:2 rotation. Could this be from too much haste or could this be a factor of arrangement of the 3:2 macro (ie having steady before auto or auto before steady or having KC at the begining or at the end or in the middle and the same for Lightning Breath). I have thought of ditching the Dragon Spine Trophy all together and even speccing out of Imp Aspect of the Hawk. I have even thought of just ditching the 3:2 and going with a 1:1.

moonsprite · 08/11/08, 5:13 PM

Hey, Just got back into raiding, been out for a few months. Been working on my gear but im far away from the badge bow and I still have my sunfury. Fully raid buffed a bit over 1k dps, usually 8-900 unbuffed.

Was wondering If I should use my wolfslayer over my sunfury, have heard good things about it, and What is the best rotation macro that I could use for it? I have no haste.

To see my stats or whatever my character is Moonsprite (Magtheridon)

Also if someone could tell me a good rotation for macro for sun fury so I could try that too before I scope the wolfslayer.

I use /cast auto
/cast steady
/kill command (not exactly like that but you get the idea). I like it sofar, it forces an auto, I think it works out to 3:2.

Would like to know if theres a rotation that works better with sunfury, as well as the best rotation for wolfslayer as a BM hunter.

Greatly appreciated!

-Moon

daemitus · 08/11/08, 5:42 PM

generally, with your choices between those two items, you dont have the haste to make sunfury work. the gun is superior in almost every sense.

Final_Rest · 08/11/08, 5:51 PM

Originally Posted by NotQuiteThere

First time poster long time reader. Sry in advance for the wall of text....I tend to get in to this...

With all of the discussion of haste cap and when to use haste vs other stats I figure this might be a good spot for my first post.

I would consider myself a ridiculously geared Alliance Dwarf hunter in 4/6 SWP guild working on Muru.

Over the past several months I have been through testing of multiple different macros and gear combinations in order to put up the numbers my guildmates said i should have been putting up. I have used Cheeky's forever and have not quite seen the numbers its given me until recently.

My fellow hunters in the guild and I began recently combatting a post by another guild member who posted a WWS of one of SK Gaming's hunters doing 3000 dps on a Brutallus fight and said that he was giving us something to shoot for. On average I would do about 2000 dps in a grp with a Warrior, a Feral Druid and some other random classes but never really a shaman. I had been told I was not doing what I needed to be doing to put up the numbers I should be so I did not deserve a stacked grp. Through testing multiple variations of macros (ie /cast auto /cast steady /cast KC /cast LB) I would arrange them around in different orders hoping to see at least 2500 or so dps, but I still hovered around 2k.

I always thought my low dps was a factor of using the badge bow along with the DST and the rotation being off or something I was doing wrong. I was at my wits end and decided to instead of using the badge bow like I had been I would go with the Arcanite Steam-Pistol and no haste other than the DST. I had recently gotten the Felspine and using it along with the badge bow didnt seem to improve things. So with the Steam-Pistol and mojo daggers x2 and 3 hunters in the raid I just happened to get put in to a group with a Feral Druid, A Shaman, A Warrior, and a Pally and FINALLY I did almost 2600 dps I was ~50 dps from beating our Dual warglaive rogue. I think this proved to them that group was the problem and not me personally. Again latter that week in BT they stacked 3 BM hunters Feral Druid Shaman and we definately ranked much higher than usual for the night.

So now that the the group thing has been situated I wish I had kept all of my data on what rotation or arrangement of /casts seemed to work the best but I tossed it all thinking it was bad since I hadn't done 2500 dps.

I usually sit at about 170ms Latency and use 3:2 of some variation.

With Badge bow I can either sit at 2.03 unhasted or I can use the Pistol and sit at 2.1 unhasted

I can put on various haste items to lower both speeds dramatically. Pistol with Felspine is 2.03. Badge bow with felspine 1.96.

I also have Grip of Mannoroth and Grips of Damnation to play with for additional haste without a terrible loss of dps according to the spreadsheet. Still havent gotten the ZA cloak or Trink to drop for me

I have been using the badge bow for some time now along with DST. Even with the Arcanite Steam Pistol the WWS most nights does not look right at ALL. Instead of SS SS AS SS AS I was seeing SS SS SS AS SS SS AS SS AS SS SS SS AS. I can not figure out where the steady strings are coming from. With the Pistol unhasted I think because I was sitting at 2.1 speed along with latency pushed me in to a 2:1 and 1:1 at points rather than a 3:2 and 1:1 but when I am well below 2.1 with the bow I have no clue.

Questions...

1)With DST should I wear any haste items at all with the Badge bow. Should I even use the DST. Should I switch to the Steam-Pistol and use the DST and haste items. Should I spec out of Iaoth.

2)With all of the haste procs from rapid fire, drums, heroism, IaotH at once i go well below 1.2 close around .7 or so shot speed... would it be viable to try and use a 2:1 here and use the 3:2 when I am around 1.6ish shot speed and have it turn in to a 1:1. Or should I just let auto fire solo when I get that low.

3)Is there any arrangement of the 3:2 macro that is better than others ie having steady before auto or auto before steady or having KC at the begining or at the end or in the middle and the same for Lightning Breath. I wish I had kept all of my test data. Moral of the story..just because others tell you its your fault doesnt make it true.

4) Any suggestions on where the steady strings are coming from?

or should I screw all of the above and just go all out 1:1?

Next Brutallus I plan to go with Badge Bow, Felspine, DST and no other haste gear than that which has been my usualy setup for a LONG time before the group change. I am going to roll with a very simple 3:2. Unless you guys can offer suggestions otherwise. I usually always run with a Wind Serpent but the night of the 2600 Brut I brought a ravager because we were having an issue with it getting pally buffs and the ravager almsot always got the buffs it needed.

~2600 DPS Brutallus
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~2k DPS Brutallus
Wow Web Stats

Armory
The World of Warcraft Armory

Ive been playing with the use of the some gear over others according to Cheeky's spreadhseet:
SSO neck vs Choker of Nightmares
BM Shoulders vs T6
Eternal Champ ring vs Angelista's
Teron Cloak vs Kaelthas Cloak

PRAY GOLDEN BOW DROPS SOON....or even Bristleblitz for that matter.

Thanks in Advance

~Nim

Out of your current Gear set, cheeky's is showing Pistol/1:1 at about 2270 DPS, Pistol/3:2 at about 2310 DPS, Crossbow/3:2 at 2327, and Crossbow/1:1 at 1 DPS higher than the 3:2 at 2328. So with just felspine your best choice is using the Crossbow with a 1:1.

Plugging your gear into cheeky's, this is what i am looking at as far as comparing the Different items:
SSO > Choker by 6 DPS with your Current Hit.
Beast Tamers > T6 by 11 DPS
Eternal Champ > Angelista's by 12 DPS. (Though i could've sworn i've seen 126 static ArP is better than the Unreliable Proc from the Hyjal ring)
Teron Cloak > Kael Cloak by 12 DPS with your current hit.

I didn't answer everything, but this should help you a bit.

moonsprite · 08/11/08, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by daemitus

generally, with your choices between those two items, you dont have the haste to make sunfury work. the gun is superior in almost every sense.

What rotation macro works best with wolfslayer no haste then?

blkthunder · 08/12/08, 12:51 AM

So according to my WWS logs i usually sit around 900ish DPS. This is a little disturbing to me due to the fact that ive always been top dps and it seems in t6 content the locks/mages are able to pull away from me prett good now. Cheekys sheet is saying i should be sitting at 1163.29 dps unbuffed.

Link to WWS
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Stats are:
AP: 2036 (w/hawk)
Crit: 29.69
Hit: Hit
Mana: 6658
Ar Pen: 308
Haste: 64
Bow: 2.8 speed

Specifics: Relentless earthshroud diamond, SSO neck, Hourglass/BB combo, also when at 20% mana switch to viper and 2xS1 1 Handers with 30 int on each and dual mana oils

What can i do to catch up to the other DPS with "easily available" upgrades?

Unfortunatly Armory is PVP gear but i'll relog tomorrow morning in PVE gear
The World of Warcraft Armory

Nataliah · 08/12/08, 1:50 AM

Your shot rotation is way off. You're trying to use arcane shot and multi-shot with steady shot, and as a beast mastery hunter, that isn't necessary. Even if you are trying to use those specials in place of steady shots in a 1:1 rotation, you're still not taking advantage of global cooldowns, seeing as how you have more auto shots than special shots combined. This is evident in your boss kills of The Lurker, Supremus, and Anetheron. Fire those steady shots and your DPS will go up.

Use a 3:2 macro instead. Many have been posted in this thread; just scroll up or check the previous page for the macro.

On Kaz'rogal, all you did was fire auto shots. I understand the nature of the fight and the importance of conserving mana, but at the same time you can't just stand there and auto shoot the boss to death. You have to use your mana if you want to keep up the DPS. Continue using steady shots, even for this fight.

On Morogrim, your abilities are all over the place. For the murlocs, drop an explosive trap and that's it. Let the mages and warlocks take care of the AOE. Skip the volley, raptor strikes, and wing clips. Focus on the boss. Your steady shot usage here is very low.

blkthunder · 08/12/08, 2:10 AM

yeah it kinda sucks, i was tasked with helping to aoe the murlocs, so i did the only aoe we have. Multi at min range, drop exp trap and volley, using the wing clips to kite the ones i pulled aggro on. :*(

I guess i'll go test out the dps of the 3:2 on Boom to see if it yields higher dps.

Barradin · 08/12/08, 2:39 PM

thunder,

most important things I find that ups your dps are:

A) KNOW THE FIGHT. I'm sure your competant knowing what to do and all. What I'm referring to is stay ahead of the bosses abilities. Know where to stand so that you have to do the minimal amount of moving while stlil not dying. By being able to stand and do nothing but shoot for 90% of the fight as opposed to 80%, you'll see a big improvement. For example, on alar in phase 1 you can move back and forth between only 2 positions so that you can shoot al'ar in any of his 5 positions. This means more shooting, less walking. Stuff like this can usually be applied to every boss.

B) maximize your cooldowns and shooting time. Aside from the first few critical seconds while the tank picks up aggro and positions the boss, you should be USING EVERY COOLDOWN. Figure out an order of firing so that you're always using an ability on every GCD. riding the therat cap? renew your hunter's mark, cast a scorpid sting... do something! it prevents you from having to do it later (or at least delays it). Time your trinkets to fire with rapid fire and bestial wrath if you have it. Use your cooldowns whenever they're available (and is safe to do so).

C) Shot rotation. This is what you'e been talking about already. Practice, experiment, see what works best. Shots per minute/second is a good indicator to see how well you're doing... especially on boom tests where you get dps numbers all over the place. Get that number higher and you'll do better (but usually spend more mana).

Sk1nk · 08/18/08, 7:21 AM

i read across the thread but over 100 pages are way to much to search through for getting my questions answered.

First of all I found many steadyshot autoshot macros, most of them eighter using

/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot

or

/castsequence reset=x Steady Shot, !Auto Shot (x=weaponspeed)

so long so good ... my problem was checking it back ... irelevant which one i used i got kind of 1:1 rotation, but the Auto Shot Timer of Quartz ran way often into getting chopped off.

so I used wowwiki.com to ensure understanding what these Macros do:

the /cast/cast macro toggles auto shot to on, and if done it spames Steady Shot ... it's like haven't any macro, and spamming the steady shot button

the /castsequence is supossed to avoid this via the reset=x ... but as wowwiki says ...

Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro

Making a macro - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft[/url]]Once you use the last entry in the list, it will reset to the beginning

so there isn't any avoidance at all, because the macro casts the steadyshot, toogle's on autoshot if it isn't, and beginnes with another steady shot, ignoring the timer

simple to test that i'm right by setting the resettimer up to 10 ... you won't have just 1 steady at 10 seconds

First question: any other macroideas for a perfect 1:1 cicle, especially not based on the groundspeed of the ranged weapon, because i want to use it even while in rapidfire and with Improved AotH proc'd

Second question: slightly offtopic, i currently equiped 149 haste, making my tuskbreaker a 1.92 weapon ... my goal was it to get as close to the 1.6 as possible, for spaming autoshot steadyshot just regulated by the global cooldown
but Haste lowers the castingtime of the steady aswell, so if i go off with rapidfire and AotH Proc my castingtime is around 0.6 for the shot, and 0.7 for the autoshot ... i tryed just triggering and shooting boom as long as i'm on Rapidfire and got a 1:1 cicle so it doesn't seem that the gc stay's 1,5 sec at all.
shoud it be useful to go full on haste, for having the perfect cycle even without RF or aren't there enouth items with haste on it, so I miss other important stats.

PS: my armory link, maybe needed http://eu.wowarmory.coml

nfmmalice · 08/18/08, 4:00 PM

Hey there... I know I dont have anywhere CLOSE to the Great gear that some people have, but I was looking for a little advice here.

Here's my Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

Im looking for little places to make Upgrades... You know.. in TYPICAL hunter fashion, while I out DPS Everyone in our Guild, I'm looking to COMPLETLY obliterate them.. hehe

We are a casual guild, so We haven't done most of the 25 Man content (Only Lurker and Hydross) But we have ZA on Farm...

Basically, with this build I'm looking at the following pieces:

Is Worgen Claw > Choker of Animalistic Fury
Is Shadowtooth Trollskin Cuirass > Demon Stalker with 3 +8 Agi (2pc Bonus only)
Is Abacus of Violent Odds > Hourglass of the Unraveller

And anything Else I can change with whats available.. Im getting ready to Resocket Everything to +8/10 Agi. With only 2 Greens to Satisfy the Meta Socket (Jagged Seasprays in the Helm and Boots.. everything else + Agi)

Any help would be appreciated. =)

Sarutobi · 08/18/08, 4:44 PM

The best way to see what upgrades are available to you given the level of content you're clearing is to use Cheeky's spreadsheet. Input your gear, shot rotation, buffs, etc, hit calc attributes, then switch over to the gear planner tab. Un-check the instances you're not currently clearing and viola, you have all of your available upgrades.