True, interestingly enough giving Serpent Sting a higher prio than RF will yield the same result but when you give Black Arrow a higher prio than RF it's a DPS loss. Not that any of this matters but still.

I did originally post it with a lower dps and then update it, but it was only 46 dps lower than the 36,202.

I fixed a couple of things you indicated (belt gem and over hit cap), and got it up to 36,214.06.

Here is a BM setup at 37373.32.

Checked Don't overlap BW and RF, and moved BW to the top of the priority.

Changed the time of Hero/BL to 50%.

Reforged a bit out of Haste and into Crit and got an increase there as well.

Changing cloak enchant from +65 crit to +22 agi gives another 13.64 DPS for Survival, if that even means something...

If you dont can get information through comparison between BIS + glyph and your armory, between recommended shootcycle / priosystem or between gemming, reforge and enchants - then this thread is meaningless for you. For other people this provide information for high end gear values, playstyle and itemization.

Whytefist also states that he will update his guide, because of a missing high haste Aim part that here get good results and can be played with reachable gear. A discussion between real fights and there impact on Aim or AS dump has every to take for himself or wait for whytefist to let him do so.

I have been meaning to update the guide for this case for a while but have been busy and had hoped that the posts in the MM thread would be sufficient; however, since the posts are now a couple pages back, it seems people are missing them.

I have updated the recommendations section in the MM guide to talk about the case. In addition, here are links to the posts discussing it:

1) Initial post after the Best DPS Thread started is here.

2) Follow on post answering question on ideal haste cap for a tight CS cycle for the AI hardcast case and where I conclude that there really is not a good feasible one is here. Hence, the goals are as stated in the updated MM guide. Get enough haste to allow Matrix Restabilizer to always proc haste and where your AI casts are sufficiently hasted during haste trinket procs.

3) This post explains taking the Best Possible DPS thread in context and some of the benefits it provides. In it I provide an analysis with my current gear at the time. As my gear as improved and I have obtained Matrix, I have gravitated to doing more and more AIs but still doing a decent number of ASs when I think it is necessary to do so (moving, interruption/pushback threats, out of range of melee haste totem, ect.).

There are other discussions on this case around as well.

I got Surv to 36,222.66, superior to the OP Surv build that gives 36215.37 (claimed) or 36201.73 (actual).

Part of the weirdness around haste has to do with the haste plateaus of the simulation. For example, in my current best Surv build, there are 261 discrete events in the simulation. That represents a plateau until I can fit 262 in, that is, an extra shot. As a result, in most cases adding 1 haste to my build gives +0.5dps. In fact, only when I add 200 haste to my build do I see any reasonable average haste benefit, and even then it's only about 1.4dps/haste, far short of the 2-3 shown by the spreadsheet.

This gives rise to a couple of observations. One is that people may want to extend their simulation to, say, 10 or 15 minutes. While this is a poorer simulation of an actual boss fight, it does gives a smoother gradient for comparing haste to other stats.

The second observation is that a large chunk of the benefit of haste comes from fitting extra shots into a given fight. If you are in fights where you are losing shots due to mechanics, poor behaviour, or any other reason, you should be lowering the relative value of haste.

I agree with all of that Kushana. There's definitely situations where you would want to use 20 agi/20 crit gems in yellow slots instead of 20 haste even tho haste sims higher than crit. There's also times you should reforge a piece or two out of haste and into crit.

But even with all that said, haste is still the best stat and you want more haste than anything else.

This is true, but it is also true that the same scenario lowers the relative value of all of your other stats as well.

Less shots, means less chances to crit. Less chances to crit means less of the bonus damage, especially with PS and the meta bonuses. It also means less GftT and Sic'Em procs lowering pet WH uptime and DPS.

Less shots means less chances to proc WQ, lowering the value of mastery.

If you are losing a chunck of shots due to mechanics, then that pretty much affects all stats roughly the same. You are not doing anything at all during that period (except maybe autos which provides some value to crit and mastery but also to haste since it affects the frequency). Once that period is over, you should be back to normal.

Losing shots to poor behaviour affacts all stats as well.

The only cases I can think of that lowers the value of haste more that it does other stats are fights with a lot of movement where we are forced to use a lot more ASs than AIs so that we are performing a smaller percentage of shots affected by haste or AoE situations where our predominate shot is instant cast MS. AoE situations really favor crit and mastery over haste.

Moving Rapid Fire down the shot priority to just before Cobra Shot (so that you only cast it when you are low on focus) gives +112 dps.