Hunter Simple Question / Simple Answers : MoP Edition - Page 3

Mericet · 12/03/12, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Nooska

As for cancelling affecting not incurring a full GCD, Unles sI am misunderstanding what you mean, you are misunderstanding me. The GCD is incurred upon an action taken (the initiating of a CoS for example). It runs 1 second, regardless of whether you cancel or not. /stopcasting does not incur a GCD at all.

It's something that I've only been able to test with my own observations, but whenever I try it looks fairly conclusive. Yes, the GCD is incurred when you start to cast cobra shot but if you cancel the cast it also cancels the GCD and allows you to perform another action (it's not necessarily instantaneous but it is noticeably less than a full 1 second).

Start cobra shot and then hit this macro (due to the less-than-instantaneous part you probably will have to spam the macro or at least hit it twice):

/stopcasting
/stopcasting
/cast Explosive Shot

You should see the explosive shot fire less than 1 second after you started the cobra shot, and if you have an addon that visually tracks the GCD in some way (quartz cast bar does this, for example) you should be able to see the GCD reset there as well.

I couldn't find a video demonstrating what I'm talking about but the last post in the following thread sums it up: Stopcasting Dps Increase? - Forums - World of Warcraft. I know it's not evidence but at least it means I'm not a lone lunatic with a crazy story.

aii · 12/03/12, 8:57 PM

Does /stopcasting in a macro delay auto shot?

Bragaul · 12/03/12, 10:10 PM

Has anyone experienced an unreliable disengage on Heroic Blade Lord? When we get pulled in, I'll hit disengage and often it won't cast until after I land (sometimes a full second or so). Other times, the disengage stops like it hits a wall. I unbound the ability during the fight so my reflexes don't hit it.

Edit: my latency is ~25ms

o5a · 12/04/12, 5:36 AM

Originally Posted by Bragaul

Has anyone experienced an unreliable disengage on Heroic Blade Lord? When we get pulled in, I'll hit disengage and often it won't cast until after I land (sometimes a full second or so). Other times, the disengage stops like it hits a wall. I unbound the ability during the fight so my reflexes don't hit it.

Edit: my latency is ~25ms

Similar things happened when I was standing too far from boss. His ability is basically a "precast" when he pulls you in and then whirlwind itself, when you can't escape. So if you stand too far, your "flight" takes too long and "precast" part finishes even before you arrive to boss, so your disengage won't work, because in fact whirlwind already started. Tha's how I understand his ability. After I started come closer before whirlwind I didn't have problems with disengage.

7alisman · 12/04/12, 5:17 PM

Silly question:

Hunters mark has always been (to my knowledge) ranged attack power, and has never benefited casters, however the new tooltip states:

"Places the Hunter's Mark on the target, increasing the ranged damage of all attackers against that target by 5%. In addition, the target of this ability can always be seen by the Hunter whether it stealths or turns invisible. The target also appears on the mini-map. Lasts for 5 min."

I assume the fact that it states "ranged damage" means that the modifier doesn't affect Spell damage, but I can't find any level of confirmation otherwise. Anyone able to clarify whether or not hunter's mark affects spell casters damage? I apologise for my ignorance (I'm not a hunter) but I couldn't find anything from MoP that confirms one way or the other.

Lokrick · 12/06/12, 3:27 AM

Originally Posted by aii

Does /stopcasting in a macro delay auto shot?

No. I tested stopcasting's interaction with cobra and was just looking through the logs. Two stopcastings are required to affect the shot at all. No amount of stopcasting had any impact on autoshot. The shortest time to from start cast to interrupt in my log (from me spamming keys) was 400ms start to finish, which is mostly just from me spamming the keys. My stopcasting is exactly for a kill shot macro, so while I don't have any examples of new shots starting in less than a second, that's not evidence one way or the other.

Ganwolfclaw · 12/06/12, 4:16 AM

Dear all,

Thanks for all the hard work. I was wondering where we were on the Mastery vs. Crit vs. Haste discussion? In addition I was wondering about the Lynx Rush vs. MoCs vs. Blinkstrike. And finally, what would be the appropriate way to use SrS as BM, are we dot-ing everything up on multi targets now? (lots of target switching) or do we nuke down single target still?

Thank you,

Ganwolfclaw

Whitefyst · 12/06/12, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ganwolfclaw

I was wondering where we were on the Mastery vs. Crit vs. Haste discussion? In addition I was wondering about the Lynx Rush vs. MoCs vs. Blinkstrike. And finally, what would be the appropriate way to use SrS as BM, are we dot-ing everything up on multi targets now? (lots of target switching) or do we nuke down single target still?

For BM:

It is now crit > mastery >= haste from my understanding, especially with the knowledge that DB extra attacks do not occur at certain haste points but has a higher percentage with more haste. I still recommend having ay least 2K haste though.

Concerning SrS, it now does more damage (almost twice as much even without debuffs on the secondary target) and costs less focus (by 5) than an AS such that if there are 1 or 2 secondary targets that it is beneficial to replace an AS on your primary target with an SrS on a secondary target if it does not already have SrS on it. For AoE situations with more than 3 targets, it is best to use MS instead of worrying about spending multiplie GCDs to apply SrS to several targets.

Shift209 · 12/18/12, 6:45 AM

Curious as to what my fellow hunters here are using to optimize their reforges & gemming. Would it be incorrect to plug the personal stat weights FD provides me with on a site like askmrrobot or wowreforge?

Tphirey · 12/18/12, 12:01 PM

ReforgeLite addon. If you get a new drop during the raid, you can mount up on your Yak, and be reforged in under 20 seconds.

rossman231 · 12/18/12, 2:02 PM

Do buffs like Tricks of the Trade's 15% damage increase only affect the hunter or do they also increase the pet's damage?

Rivkah · 12/18/12, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by rossman231

Do buffs like Tricks of the Trade's 15% damage increase only affect the hunter or do they also increase the pet's damage?

I haven't tested this expansion, but when I tested last expansion the pet did not benefit from Tricks of the Trade.

Renato · 12/20/12, 2:07 PM

Before:

After:

1% Damage from Tricks. Proof enough I hope.

• Narcosleepy · 12/20/12, 4:08 PM

Those numbers in your screen shots show 1.7%% if my math doesn't fail me. Clearly showing that SOMETHING increased the pets damage, but certainly not 1%. Also a screen shot is a pretty terrible way to settle the math on this (not faulting you just stating). I'd think we could do this with some combat logs, or other things to show all incoming buff, damage modifiers, etc.

edit: My math, did in fact fail me the first time, but the point is still valid.

Renato · 12/20/12, 9:03 PM

Originally Posted by Narcosleepy

Those numbers in your screen shots show 1.7%% if my math doesn't fail me. Clearly showing that SOMETHING increased the pets damage, but certainly not 1%. Also a screen shot is a pretty terrible way to settle the math on this (not faulting you just stating). I'd think we could do this with some combat logs, or other things to show all incoming buff, damage modifiers, etc.

edit: My math, did in fact fail me the first time, but the point is still valid.

Yea I totally mind farted when I did the quick math on my calculator by rounding when I saw 0.99xx not even realizing it is only actually a 32 damage increase which comes out to be a 0.262% increase in damage to Claw.

With a number like that I am starting to think that the interaction may be a little bit more complicated than just a 1% increase (obviously) and could possibly be some sort of bleed over to your pet from the 15% damage increase buff you receive on the player.