You should keep mashing the /cast /cast macro. You shouldn't really use the old /castsequence macro, because it will be affected even more by latency, as you must wait for the server response for your macro to send the next sequence (if I understand this correctly). In my experience, the clipping seen is a result of global cooldowns, where my steady fires, followed by an auto-shot, then some delay while GCD completes before I can start casting the next steady.

The /cast /cast macro will become a 1:1 when your attack speed dictates it by default. In reality, we probably should not refer to this as a "3:2" macro, because the actual rotation it produces will vary based on speed. As a fellow DST user, plus drummer with a 1.93 base attack speed, I feel your pain on the sub 1.5 second haste boosts; the clipping is wated haste, but not detrimental per se.

The best way to think of this is not that the clipping is really diminishing your DPS, but that you simply are not utilizing all the haste buffs that you are receiving. In other words, when your hasted attack speed is at 1.4s, you will not do any less DPS that you would do if your base speed was 1.5s. I have found that attempting to space out haste buffs (as can best be controlled) is the most beneficial, although for some reason my party members won't seem to let me get away with throwing up Drums of War when my IAotH and DST are both procced.

The exception to this could be if your attack speed manages to drop down below .75s, in which case straight auto-shot could end up being the best option.

I'm kind of stumped with my gear planning and was hoping for some feedback/suggestions. I'm not an active raider so the gear options I can plan on are Badges/PvP with the off chance of getting into a T5/T6 raid if people are needed.

My armory is updated, however, I just made the bracer last night so lost my green gem/meta. To adjust for this I'm getting a Belt of the Black Eagle made tonight which is a pretty nice DPS upgrade from the S3 belt + has gem slots I need.

My issue is that when I swap in potential upgrades like badge bow/S3 axe -> Bristlebritz Striker/The Blade of Harbingers I see a loss of 2 DPS. If I move toward hit cap with Belt of Ferocity/Feind Slayers Boots I lose about 25 dps from Black Eagle/Crimson Hawk with the Harbingers/Striker or Badge/S3. I've tried both the 1:1 and 3:2 shot rotation selections and recalced after switching each time. Any ideas on that issue or suggestions on other gear paths? Thanks.

Kilrage: Why not get the badge ring? I also have a feeling, even if Cheeky's doesn't show it, that you could lose some haste and see an improvement in DPS. You could also switch your shoulders for Pauldrons of Primal_Fury, socket Agi and Agi/Hit and find yourself at 141 hit, with little loss in other stats (except the extraneous haste). From ZA you could also try picking up Berserker's Call, which would be an upgrade over your Hourglass.

I want to go marksman for raiding for a while...And yes I realize that BM is the best dps spec for hunters. I would like to see some itemization tips and a shot rotation pls...

There is a whole Marksman DPS thread here. But in general, these boards are all about maximizing your effectiveness, and since Marksman doesn't do that, no one cares a whole lot about it for PvE DPS.

Hmm, On the spreadsheet I use (Cheeky's Most recent release) it rates the wind serpent massively above any other pet..same for maxdps.com(Although I don't really trust this site)...

But tonight on Teron Gorefiend, A Ravager quite significantly out DPS'ed my Winder serpent twice in a row..

Here's the Logs:

Wind Serpent(Mine): YouGotPorked - WWS

Ravager: IrapedUsoz - WWS

The ravager won by around 70 DPS on Try #2 and Try #3 (Try 1 was epic fail)

Can anybody see a reason for this?(Sorry If it's something ovbious, I'm a little tired )

But If not I'm really gona have to swap back to a ravager..

My personal experience has shown Ravagers over Wind Serpents (spreadsheet be damned, it's just a piece of crap Excel program anyway!).

Could it be your buddy is an Orc, and you are not? He also got much luckier with pet critical hits on melee attacks.

First of all, here's a link to my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

Note(I have a DST where the riding crop is)

So i have been using the s3 axe for a looong time, and i really want a change. I decided i wanted to dual wield, so i managed to snag a Breeching Comet from HMGT, and i really wanted to get another, but have been having bad luck with the drops. During this time i have gathered enough badges for the main hand fist wep, but i also have enough for the badge 2h, so my question to you all is, what is my best option?

1. Breeching Cometx2
2. Breeching Comet-Main Hand badge fist wep
3. Blade of Harbingers

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

So I've been trying many of the things proposed to me by various sources, but I still feel my DPS is lacking. Any help would be appreciated.

Etar - WWS

Note that they tossed me into a group where I received no support. Two mages, a warlock, another hunter, and me.

Have you heard of Cheeky's spreadsheet? Any time that I get a new weapon or am considering purchasing one, I use it to evaluate the weapon. It will give you an answer that reflects your talent spec and other gear.

Without even looking at Cheeky's spreadsheet, or your armory, I would say the Blade of Harbingers. It is so much better than the others. At Kaz'rogal where mana regen is a big deal, I might equip 2 one handers and put mana oil on each, but otherwise the Blade of Harbingers is far and away the best.

Has anyone changed their shot rotations or shot macros since the latest patch? I am very interested in seeing how hunters are affected by the new rule that allows autoshot to fire during the cast of arcane and multi-shot?

High-end fist weapon combinations will outshine the best 2-handers due to [Adamantite Weightstone]

I have looked long and hard through the forums here to see how the Ignore armor Stat stacks up against a pure AP bonus. I have the badge "Gauntlets of Rapidity" and last night got my Gronnstalkers. The T6 gloves have 16 less AP but 140 ignore Armor. Other than Cheeky's is there a set formula for AP vs. Ignore armor?

So we've been working on Brutallus and my dps just seems to be lower than it should be. I'm averaging around 1700 dps as BM while not mixing in Scorpid Sting, 1500 if I mix in Scorpid Sting. I'm hitting the 1700 mark when I'm in the group with dps warrior, feral druid, enh shaman so the group composition is there to help. I'm using the 53 dps Timelost Arrows, full raid buffs (Kings, Might, Wisdom, Mark, 20 agi food, mageblood and demon slaying elixirs, hawk) so that I'm sitting around 2500 AP and 35% crit before hitting the demonslaying elixir.

I use a this macro just to make sure I'm getting Kill Command off everytime.
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Steady Shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

I'm shooting for about a 1:1 ratio since when I try mixing in any more shots it seems to freak out my auto-shot timer. I also use Quartz to watch the shot timer and hit the macro each time the auto-shot timer hits 0.

Brutallus Web Stats (first 5-6 attempt I was with casters instead of the melee group)
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Armory Profile
The World of Warcraft Armory

I just don't quite see what I'm doing wrong, but I feel I should be over 2k dps in this fight instead of sitting at 1700. One thing I haven't tested is switching back to the Xbow of Relentless Strikes instead of Illidan's bow, since maybe the 2.8 speed would be better than the 3.0 speed? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

It looks like you are using a 1:1 rotation with Black Bow.

Mash that macro harder. You WANT to clip your auto shots with a weapon of that speed, which is the way 3:2 rotation works. If you insist on hitting the macro only once per auto, switch to the chicken-on-a-stick xbow.

The macro you are using is designed for spamming constantly, not pressing slowly. Try it and watch your dps increase. =)

I guess I always thought that clipping the auto shots hurt dps more than getting off an extra steady. I'll try it out on Dr. Boom tonight and just mash the crap out of the macro. Thank you.

I realize it was announced in 2.4.2 that this would properly affect ranged, but has anyone tested and confirmed that [Elixir of Demonslaying] actually does now buff ranged dps? The 4 or 5 times that I've used it vs. demon bosses, my DPS seemed unusually low.

I think you are reading old comments as the most recent post patch say it does and if you click on the effect description it shows the spell and it has a modifier for both melee and ranged AP.

Quick question about Haste Potion usage for BM Hunters, in this case on Brutallus but also in general - it seems like Haste Potions are going to cause some pretty noticeable clipping. I'm at a 1.55 speed with just Drums + Haste Potion, and 0 passive haste gear. When IotH procs, it's down to 1.38. Obviously as I add passive haste gear this will become more pronounced.

In this case is the haste potion still going to be a net damage increase over not using one, just some of the haste from the potion is "wasted"? That's what Cheeky's spreadsheet seems to indicate, but I just wanted to be sure that made sense.

Further, if that's the case does it make more sense to combine haste cooldowns or stagger them? Last night we only had 3 drums, so I was using Rapid Fire OR a Haste Potion during the period no drums were up, but that means they didn't combine with BW or Trinkets. Does it make more sense to just use everything at once? (BW/Trinket/RF/Haste Pot/Drums). Is there a way to model that in the sheet?

I'd stagger the haste item uses so you're not sitting at absurdly fast autoshot speeds and clipping in 1:1.

I was wondering what my gear level can do good and what dps i should have in raids etc.. and could some1 link me an good bm and surv macro for dpsing with my gear.. thanks you, here is my armory The World of Warcraft Armory

Use Cheeky's Spreadsheet and find out.

As for a macro; here's a great 3:2 macro:

Manito's Modified 3:2 Steady Shot Macros