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Old 08/01/08, 12:52 PM   #3551
Cranch
Don Flamenco
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Perenolde
llwynog: I would question your tools first of all. Do you have WWS listings for your low and high dps runs?
 
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Old 08/01/08, 1:39 PM   #3552
Qwikly
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Kargath
RE: Auto Equipping Dual Wields

Obellix,
The easiest way I found to help in automating from my HoD to my Int Daggers is to use the Armor Mod "Outfitter". When you set up your gear, you can specifically identify which armor you want on your character when you switch Aspects. So, when Hawk is up, I have the HoD equipped and when I have to switch to Viper, I have Outfitter switch to the mana daggers. Very effective.

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Old 08/01/08, 1:47 PM   #3553
Minandreas
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Illidan
Sorry if the answer to this question is somewhere obvious, but I looked around for a while and couldn't find it.

Cheeky's spreadsheet has been an absolutely incredible tool for me in regards to figuring out exactly how certain pieces of gear effect me. However the version I have does not contain any of the Sunwell equipment. Having just downed Kalecgos for the first time I need to start figuring out what direction to go in with Sunwell gear. Is a more updated version of Cheeky's spreadsheet available? If so where might I find it? thanks for your time.
 
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Old 08/01/08, 2:51 PM   #3554
Xckilla
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
Hey guys i've got a question that's been bugging me for quite some time. Let's say i have a shadow priest in my group. Would it be a good idea to chug haste pots in between DST procs? Here's a link to my armory:

The World of Warcraft Armory
 
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Old 08/01/08, 2:55 PM   #3555
mako
Don Flamenco
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
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Dragonmaw
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t9816-hu...-_development/

and yes, haste pots are good when you don't need mana pots.

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Old 08/01/08, 5:34 PM   #3556
Dunkeroo
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Sen'jin
Someone brighter than I please shed light on how Scaled Drakeskin Chestguard is rated higher on the Gear Planner tab (+14.60 dps), and on Maxdps than Ranger-General's Chestguard?

I put it in my spreadsheet and it always drops my damage by -13.56 dps.

I lose -8 agility, -14 crit, but gain +14 AP & Haste using epic gems & exceptional stats.

Disregard my Amory, having gems cut for pants and pvp trinket on.

I can't see what I am doing wrong. Or is the Ranger General actually better?

I have read these threads and usually don't have any problems on builds, this one has me confused.
 
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Old 08/01/08, 5:39 PM   #3557
Faerdael
Piston Honda
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Gilneas
@Dunkeroo
Check that you have the requirements met for your meta gem. Also check the shot rotation tab. At 1.93 speed, a 1:1 modled rotation will pass up a 3:2 (no, dont change your macro in game ).
 
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Old 08/01/08, 6:25 PM   #3558
Obellix
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Draenei Hunter
 
Greymane
Originally Posted by Qwikly View Post
Obellix,
The easiest way I found to help in automating from my HoD to my Int Daggers is to use the Armor Mod "Outfitter". When you set up your gear, you can specifically identify which armor you want on your character when you switch Aspects. So, when Hawk is up, I have the HoD equipped and when I have to switch to Viper, I have Outfitter switch to the mana daggers. Very effective.

Qwik
I guess i'll have to try it out. Last night i noticed that sometimes i equip my 2 1h but viper doesnt trigger. And the problem i was running into aswell was that both 1h weap are the same so /equip Breeching Comet would only equip 1 weap and not the other even if i type it twice.
 
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Old 08/01/08, 7:29 PM   #3559
Dunkeroo
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by Faerdael View Post
@Dunkeroo
Check that you have the requirements met for your meta gem. Also check the shot rotation tab. At 1.93 speed, a 1:1 modled rotation will pass up a 3:2 (no, dont change your macro in game ).
Hey thanks a ton. I didn't notice that i was missing the blue gem. I recently switched from Belt of the Black Eagle to Don Alejandro's Money Belt, guess I will have to switch back for awhile.
 
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Old 08/01/08, 10:29 PM   #3560
Kekegome
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Khadgar
I'm survival and raiding t5 content as well as the first couple of bosses in hyjal. My gear is about half kara and the rest is SSC epics/crafted. In a raid I do around 600 dps which is half the DPS of the other hunters in the raid. My attack speed is 2.52

My question is... what kind of macro should I be using to up my dps, and if it's a 2:3 macro where can I find a good example of one? (I'm macro challenged)
 
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Old 08/02/08, 5:25 AM   #3561
Sebudai
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Orc Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
Do haste effects reduce the GCD of Steady Shot? It certainly looks like the hunter spreadsheet thinks it does, but I've received conflicting information from the threads on these forums.
 
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Old 08/02/08, 12:09 PM   #3562
SpartanKillian
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Dalaran
Hit capped but missing?

First, the WWS:

WWS Loading...

The question I have is how is it our resident Survival Hunter (Isidoro) is missing on shots when he's well above his hit cap of 95? His Auto-Shot miss chance vs All Bosses is 1.2% Mitigation I can understand; a certain amount is going to get blocked and there's really nothing to be done, but flat out misses....?
 
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Old 08/02/08, 12:54 PM   #3563
Constella
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Aggramar
Shot Rotation

I am only doing about 800 DPS. I'm sure it has something to do do with my shot rotation. I couldn't find Cheeky's spreadsheet everyone was talking about so I'm posting this. My armory info is there. I really just need to know the order of shots I should be doing. Usually I just do Arcane, Multi then Steady until my other shots are back up.



The World of Warcraft Armory
 
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Old 08/02/08, 1:15 PM   #3564
SpartanKillian
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Dalaran
Cheeky's spreadsheet has an entire thread devoted to it in these forums, there's a download link in post 1.

In terms of a macro, I would suggest getting Manito's (aka the /cast/cast macro). It can be found at:
Manito's Modified 3:2 Steady Shot Macros - INFORMATION STICKY

Shard of Contempt is a terrible trinket for hunters--expertise does nothing for us. Please mail to it my Retadin asap. If that doesn't work, and you're having bad luck with drops, the [Darkmoon Card: Crusade] is a decent option.

Changing your trinket and using the macro should show a substantial improvement over 800 dps (assuming your lag isn't off the charts).

EDIT: Friendly request that someone take a look at my question two posts up

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Old 08/02/08, 6:17 PM   #3565
Ivaldi
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Dethecus
Originally Posted by SpartanKillian View Post
EDIT: Friendly request that someone take a look at my question two posts up
Landed Dot Crit Glanc Crush All Miss Miss Resist Block Parry Dodge Other
Nb 31 29 2 2
% 50 % 47 % 3.2 % 3.2 %

other miss (evade, immune, absorb)

149351 19:08'36.093 Isidoro's Steady Shot avoided by Shadowy Construct (immune)
149380 19:08'36.687 Isidoro's Auto Shot avoided by Shadowy Construct (immune)
149423 19:08'37.453 Isidoro's Arcane Shot avoided by Shadowy Construct (immune)
149425 19:08'37.547 Isidoro's Kill Command avoided by Shadowy Construct (immune)
149568 19:08'39.703 Isidoro's Steady Shot avoided by Shadowy Construct (immune)
 
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Old 08/03/08, 11:47 AM   #3566
Stutters
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Staghelm
Sorry I've been out of the loop on hunter for a while, since my guild needed a good resto druid I began maining him. Also not sure if this should go in the Help me please thread or this one, due to it being strictly SV based.

Before I switched to my druid I was 24/37 (MM/SV) using 1:1 and putting Arcane or Multi after the steady whenever they are up. Since my guild now actually needs my hunter on some nights, I went to SV to help our raid out and to be quite frank, much of it is over my head currently, so I'm looking for any help possible before tonights raid.

My main questions are what would be a good rotation for me to use going 7/20/34 because I tried the 1:1 and using specials every CD and I'm going oom far too quickly without Thrill while I'm potting every CD. I reverted back to my 3:2 BM macro for the current moment for lack of anything better. The second question for me would be is 7/20/34 a decent spec for me, or do I not have the gear to support it? Or course any other help is welcome as well (I do know I am over the hit cap, however if you look at my gear, there is only one gem socketed for hit and that I need to keep because of BM spec. Obviously I will upgrade the 6/8Agi gems into 10s and replace the orange in my head for a 10 Agi as well). Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

The World of Warcraft Armory is my armory.

Wow Web Stats is a WWS from this week of our FLK kill (also has Leotheras)
and WWS Loading... is from Winterchill last night.

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Old 08/03/08, 3:51 PM   #3567
skunkone
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Burning Legion
early survival macro

well i'm finally getting into Heroics and raiding.
I was doing pvp for a while and didn't pve, hence the crap gear.

Still shooting for sunfury, and drape of the dark reavers for +hit so i can regem more agi. Also changing belt of the eagle for belt of deep shadow. I only have about 13 badges so far since i got back so it will be a while till i get any badge gear.

Now that i'm back in, i'm still going to use survival as the guild i'm in will benefit from it since they don't currently have one, and not to mention I really like playing survival.

As far as gear goes, I still have alot of gear that needs to be replaced as I make the gear switch from pvp to pve and raiding more will hopefully bring it.

Currently self buffed (elixir of major agility, warp burger, and scroll of agility V) i'm only at 840agi.
raid buffed (kings, gift of the wild, grace of air) i'm only at 1044, but ew is up most of the time.

My concern is that i'm not bringing in my best personal dps due to the bad macro i'm running, if i am. I do know i was ready for a bit of a personal dps loss going survival, but the juice was worth the squeeze. Guild already has 5 BM hunts.



with CC present
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()



without CC present
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=6 Arcane Shot, !Auto Shot, Multi-Shot, !Auto Shot, Steady Shot, !Auto Shot, Arcane Shot, !Auto Shot, Steady Shot, !Auto Shot, Steady Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] kill command

i usually run elixir of major mageblood, and superior mana oil, and strength+food buff pet. Also haste drums.

with my current attack speed 2.52 and my weapon speed at 3.00 are these the correct macro's to use?
if not, please feel free to post me the correct ones, thanks in advance.

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Old 08/03/08, 4:04 PM   #3568
Felixalias
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Draenei Shaman
 
Sen'jin
@skunkone:

Without any sort of WWS, it is impossible to know if you are "bringing [your] best personal dps".
 
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Old 08/03/08, 5:54 PM   #3569
skunkone
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Burning Legion
well i tried.

wws account, client, /combatlog on/off, logout, upload....the get error (invalid log).

seems to be fairly common.
 
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Old 08/03/08, 6:10 PM   #3570
Cranch
Don Flamenco
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Perenolde
skunkone: drop the castsequence macros -- google manito's shot macro. Just spam that while manually inserting arcane/multi when they are up.
 
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Old 08/03/08, 7:05 PM   #3571
skunkone
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Burning Legion
so his 3:2 bm macro is best for me? really?
 
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Old 08/03/08, 7:36 PM   #3572
Khassandra
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Dragonblight
With the KC lockup bug no longer a problem, why would one use Manito's more complex setup than the normal 3:2 macro?
 
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Old 08/03/08, 9:42 PM   #3573
Tazlin
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Elune
Maybe its just bad luck, but when i use KC in my normal 3:2 macro it still locks up. Actually it locks up worse then it did before. It was so bad I just stopped using KC all together, my dps went up. I can manually use it if I want.
 
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Old 08/03/08, 9:52 PM   #3574
Felixalias
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Sen'jin
@Tazlin:

That sounds like really strange KC behavior. Even when I wasn't using Manito's macro, (just a /cast Kill Command line, in fact), I had maybe 1 lockup an hour at absolute worst, and I was playing in 100-450ms lag. Using Manito's, the lockups were reduced to maybe 1 every 2 weeks or so (extremely rare), and only while farming (mobs constantly dying while spamming KC are asking for trouble). Now with the patch out, I haven't seen a single lockup.

Perhaps you should post the macro that is giving you the trouble (with KC included in it
 
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Old 08/03/08, 10:08 PM   #3575
Tazlin
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Elune
Im only using the /cast /cast macro with LB and KC back to back. being surv if im not hasted it ends up being a 2:1 roation tho, and pretty tight. So im thinking its more the GCD causing a problem then locking up actually.
 
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