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Old 08/12/08, 3:38 PM   #3626
Drans
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Worgen Druid
 
Cenarius
Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
Dear EJ'ers


I'm not that frequent of a poster (matter of fact, this is my first one), but have been reading up quite a lot of times here.

I do have a question about my pewpew macro (drums+tbw+berserker's call).

Lately it seems to not cast my Bestial Wrath/TBW anymore, so I have to click it manually, which kinda sucks. Also, sometimes I have to click it a couple of times (probably because steady shot is casting or something)


This is what my macro is:

/use Drums of Battle
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/p Drums up, next in 30 sec

I've tried adding /stopcasting on top, to make sure it interrupts my steadyshot, but it didn't help with the bestial wrath thing....


Could anyone help please?!
Using Drums triggers the GCD, therefore not allowing BW in the same macro without hitting it twice. I suggest you make separate macros for Drums of Battle, and BW + Trinkets, or just spamming the macro more than once (although this will also spam party chat).

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Old 08/13/08, 1:46 AM   #3627
Kamaa
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Night Elf Druid
 
Greymane
Originally Posted by Drans View Post
Using Drums triggers the GCD, therefore not allowing BW in the same macro without hitting it twice. I suggest you make separate macros for Drums of Battle, and BW + Trinkets, or just spamming the macro more than once (although this will also spam party chat).
I'm able to use both at the same time with the same macro with a single button press.

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Old 08/13/08, 3:52 AM   #3628
Drans
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Originally Posted by Kamaa View Post
I'm able to use both at the same time with the same macro with a single button press.

After just testing it, it's definetly possible, I've just always had them seperate. As long as you have Drums of Battle as the last command, you can cast all three at the same time.

For example, my macro that casts BW + BC + Drums with a single press:

#showtooltip
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/use Drums of Battle
/p --- Drums used, 30 seconds ---
/in 30 /p --- Next Drums NOW ---
/in 115 /p --- Drums up in 5 ---

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Old 08/13/08, 6:08 AM   #3629
Dirty
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Bloodscalp (EU)
Thanks guys, i'll try it out tonight in our BT run.


I had another question, quite an obvious one: I just joined a guild that's 4/6 in BT, and although, for my gear, my dps was nice on our last brutallus kill (2400dps), I was wondering what items I should try to get first.

Tier 6 parts shouldn't be a problem really, since most guys inthat guild even have full t6 for their offspec, but I'm talking more about things like trinkets, rings, etc....


What if I get madness of the betrayer trinket (the one with arp), what trinket should I switch it with?


Thanks for your help!

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Old 08/13/08, 9:54 AM   #3630
Gjorn
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Tauren Hunter
 
Bloodscalp (EU)
Hi everyone. I play in a more casual guild than most of you guys, and I think I do fairly ok, for my gear level. However I'm not very good at analyzing WWS logs and similar stuff, so I though I'd ask here if there is anything that seems blatantly wrong with my shot rotation, or other things.

Here is a WWS from my first full ZA clear. I'm the only hunter, Io. I think it went fairly well on this run, dps wise, but I wonder if I could do better. It's the first run where I've experimented with haste potions, since I normally need the cooldowns for mana pots. Hence I only had a total of five haste pots with me.

Armory

Also, I'm sitting at 25% crit, at the moment. Would that mean I should start looking at a windserpent instead of my ravager?

Thanks for any input.

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Old 08/13/08, 11:53 AM   #3631
anarkin
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Deathwing
I am a bit perplexed as to why Cheeky's shows me as getting better dps with a 1:1 macro rather than a 3:2. I do have a bit of haste but is 64 haste enough to make me clip that bad on my auto shots?

Does haste effect 1:1 at all?

Just as a reference i have 7k manna 1908 ap and 27.88 crit.




Any light you could shed on the subject would be appreciatedl

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Old 08/13/08, 12:06 PM   #3632
kulinskims28
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Doomhammer
Hello, I was wondering at what point haste becomes a useless stat? I am a BM spec'd hunter. I use the badge reward bow, with the thousand feathers quiver.

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Old 08/13/08, 1:01 PM   #3633
Sympa
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Terokkar
Originally Posted by kulinskims28 View Post
Hello, I was wondering at what point haste becomes a useless stat? I am a BM spec'd hunter. I use the badge reward bow, with the thousand feathers quiver.

My spreadsheet deals with question. [Hunter] Shot Rotation Spreadsheet


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Old 08/13/08, 4:23 PM   #3634
Sarutobi
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Originally Posted by Drans View Post
After just testing it, it's definetly possible, I've just always had them seperate. As long as you have Drums of Battle as the last command, you can cast all three at the same time.

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As long as the action that triggers the GCD is the last action in the macro it can be done, however, it's better to activate drums and BW/RF separately (Drums before the other 2) due to the fact that if you activate all 3 with drums last, you have an entire GCD with BW/RF up where you can't do anything.

Also, having them separate makes drum rotations within a group simpler. Your turn to drum may not always end up lining up with when you want to be using your cooldowns.

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Old 08/13/08, 4:28 PM   #3635
mako
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You shouldn't really use RF when drums are up, unless you've got a 4 drum group. It's also much easier to manage cooldowns when you synch tbw/bc/drums together. This is especially true if you are the only drum user in the group.

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Old 08/13/08, 5:07 PM   #3636
Shikimaru
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Drans View Post
After just testing it, it's definetly possible, I've just always had them seperate. As long as you have Drums of Battle as the last command, you can cast all three at the same time.

For example, my macro that casts BW + BC + Drums with a single press:

#showtooltip
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/use Drums of Battle
/p --- Drums used, 30 seconds ---
/in 30 /p --- Next Drums NOW ---
/in 115 /p --- Drums up in 5 ---
I just tested this macro out(except without the /cast BW since I'm Survival), but I don't think the last 2 lines work

I remember grouping with a rogue that had a similar macro, however his announced when his drums were over. Can anyone post a macro that does that or is there something wrong with the one I quoted?

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Old 08/13/08, 5:13 PM   #3637
Bikiniwax
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Laughing Skull
Originally Posted by Shikimaru View Post
I just tested this macro out(except without the /cast BW since I'm Survival), but I don't think the last 2 lines work

I remember grouping with a rogue that had a similar macro, however his announced when his drums were over. Can anyone post a macro that does that or is there something wrong with the one I quoted?
There are mods that announce Drum cooldowns (as well as other cooldowns). The rogue may have used one of these mods.

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Old 08/13/08, 5:26 PM   #3638
Shikimaru
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Bikiniwax View Post
There are mods that announce Drum cooldowns (as well as other cooldowns). The rogue may have used one of these mods.
I see, well then anyone know if there's a macro that announces when your drums end?

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Old 08/13/08, 5:36 PM   #3639
Sarutobi
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
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Originally Posted by Shikimaru View Post
I see, well then anyone know if there's a macro that announces when your drums end?
/use Drums of Battle
/p {star} [Drums of Battle] up {star}
/in 28 /p {triangle} [Drums of Battle] down in 2 seconds, next person get ready! {triangle}

The messages can be changed, but everyone in the hunter group (we typically have 4-5 drummers) uses either a mod or macro similar to the above to announce drum use and when it will be going down.

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Old 08/13/08, 9:20 PM   #3640
Drans
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Worgen Druid
 
Cenarius
Originally Posted by Shikimaru View Post
I just tested this macro out(except without the /cast BW since I'm Survival), but I don't think the last 2 lines work

I remember grouping with a rogue that had a similar macro, however his announced when his drums were over. Can anyone post a macro that does that or is there something wrong with the one I quoted?
I've never had a problem with the macro, always displayed in party. May be a dumb question, but you were grouped right?

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Old 08/13/08, 10:42 PM   #3641
Kamaa
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Greymane
The mod ORA2 allows the /in X "chat command".

There may be other mods that accommodate this function, but this is the one I use.

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Old 08/14/08, 1:41 AM   #3642
avinnik
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Dragonmaw
Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I'll give it a shot:

I'm in a 2v2 team with a holy pally right now, pretty much just for getting points. We want to get out of the late 1400 bracket, but we seem to lose against a LOT of combos. Most of the teams we lose against are double DPS combos, such as mage/rogue. My question is: is hunter + pally a very bad combo, and it's right that we are losing vs. these teams, or are we doing something wrong?

Half the time we're fighting, my teammate claims he can't heal me because he gets spell locked constantly, so how come other healers don't get spell locked like that?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 08/14/08, 9:11 AM   #3643
forzakenSH
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Night Elf Hunter
 
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Shu'halo
Need Help

Greetings,

This is my first Post, But I have been trolling here for awhile. I am having an unknown issue with my DPS/Shot rotation Macro.

Here is my Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
Here is a WWS report for a TK run: Wow Web Stats
And here is the macro I am currently using:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

My computer recently had to be restored so I lost all of my macros and I remade this one. My DPS seems to be suffering for some reason. I used to be in the top 1-2 DPS for a boss fight and now I am in the 5-10 range normally. I have tweaked the macro, tried ading in Arcane/Aimed etc and still can't make a noticeable imporvement in my raid dps and I am at my wits end. If anyone can find what I am doing wrong I would most appreciate it Lately I have been the only hunter in the raid so I have been using Scorpid sting instead of serpent sting (Don't see where that would make such a huge difference)

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Old 08/14/08, 5:20 PM   #3644
Shikimaru
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Sargeras
Haven't been BM for a while(since our first IC downing I think), well how are my stats/gems/ect. for BM my gear lvl

Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

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Old 08/14/08, 7:13 PM   #3645
Sympa
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Terokkar
Originally Posted by forzakenSH View Post
Greetings,

This is my first Post, But I have been trolling here for awhile. I am having an unknown issue with my DPS/Shot rotation Macro.

Here is my Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
Here is a WWS report for a TK run: Wow Web Stats
And here is the macro I am currently using:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget, exists] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

My computer recently had to be restored so I lost all of my macros and I remade this one. My DPS seems to be suffering for some reason. I used to be in the top 1-2 DPS for a boss fight and now I am in the 5-10 range normally. I have tweaked the macro, tried ading in Arcane/Aimed etc and still can't make a noticeable imporvement in my raid dps and I am at my wits end. If anyone can find what I am doing wrong I would most appreciate it Lately I have been the only hunter in the raid so I have been using Scorpid sting instead of serpent sting (Don't see where that would make such a huge difference)
First, start using the following macro.
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast !Auto shot 
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Kill Command
/cast [target=pettarget,exists] Lightning Breath
/cast Steady shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
Second, make sure you are still hit capped and not missing a piece of gear somewhere. Do not use serpent sting for damage, it's damage per mana is not as high as a steady auto macro. If you could post a WWS log of some fights like Rage Winterchill or Teron Gorefiend it would greatly assist in finding the problem.


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Old 08/14/08, 7:41 PM   #3646
Tazlin
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Elune
Anyone know if Hourglass of the unraveller has a hidden CD, and if so what it is.

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Old 08/14/08, 8:16 PM   #3647
Nataliah
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Terenas
Yes, 45 seconds.

Procs with/without internal cooldowns

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Old 08/15/08, 1:10 AM   #3648
Filena
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Kilrogg
Hi All,

I came back after being gone for awhile and had some questions:

Armory Link:
The World of Warcraft Armory

1st question - My primary ranged weapon was the "Sunfury Bow" from Kara. Recently I purchased the Season 2 x-bow (Merciless Gladiator's Crossbow) for pvping. Now I am wondering which one would be better for me to use as a SV hunter for pve. Which would you recommend and why? I am thinking the speed might hurt my DPS pve wise. Am I wrong?


2nd question - Previously scorpids were all the rage. Now I hardly see anyone using them. Was there a change to how their poison works so now they are less desireable?

Thanks!

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Old 08/15/08, 7:48 AM   #3649
cohaagen
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Turalyon (EU)
Hit, Rings and Other Such Things...

Ok, so I'm having a bit of a dilemma.

All of a sudden, I've had this urge to get as much hit as possible. I've just picked up [Halberd of Desolation] and [Choker of Endless Nightmares]. Together with the rest of my gear I'm reaching a hit total of 140, which increases my chance to hit by 8.88%. After changing the gem in my [Gronnstalker's Gloves] to +5 hit and +5 agi, that will go up to 141. Oh, and I'm a BM hunter.

However, I've also picked up the Signet of Primal Wrath from the ZA run I went on a couple days back. Coupled with Angelista's Revenge, these makes for a lovely DPS set.

Stats inc.

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OPTION A

[Garona's Signet Ring] + [Angelista's Revenge]

2132 ATP (with AoTH +155 atp)
140 Hit
30.37% crit

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OPTION B

[Signet of Primal Wrath] + [Angelista's Revenge]

2158 ATP (with AoTH +155 atp)
122 Hit
30.57% Crit

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As you can see, Option A is the hit option, whereas Option B increases RAP and Crit.

So my question to you is this;

Is the 26 attack power increase and the 0.20% increased crit together enough to make up for the -18 hit? I keep hearing mixed things from a lot of hunters about how 'anything over 130+ is fine', but on the other hand I'm being told that hit > all.

I would LOVE to be hit-capped; it would be wonderful. However, I'm loving this relatively high crit chance at the moment and would like to keep it as high as possible. I know compromise needs to come into play at some point, but I don't know which stats to keep and which to get rid of, hence my dilemma with Hit, Crit and RAP.

The official WoW forums have proved (yet again) to be of no help whatsoever, so a friend of mine put me onto you guys. After trudging through your forums for quite some time, I am yet to find something that truly answers my question. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Apologies if this has been answered a billion times already.

EDIT: As of writing, Armoury has still not been updated to show new items.

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Old 08/15/08, 8:59 AM   #3650
Kom
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Thaurissan
Originally Posted by cohaagen View Post
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OPTION B

[Signet of Primal Wrath] + [Angelista's Revenge]

2158 ATP (with AoTH +155 atp)
122 Hit
30.57% Crit

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Even if you can use every bit of hit rating on [Garona's Signet Ring], the [Signet of Primal Wrath] still comes out better. Despite what people say hit% isn't the be all and end all of everything, if an item gives say 100 DPS but leaves you under the hit cap, it's still better than an item that gives you 80 DPS but makes you hit capped.

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