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Old 08/10/08, 4:11 PM   #3616
Kamaa
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Originally Posted by KraxisSingular View Post
Thanks a lot. That settles it then. Off to get Vanir's Left Fist of Something. And hope that an even better fistweapon drops for me, like Rage. Then I would also have a proper Surv melee set.
If you haven't purchased the fist already I would highly recommend against it and instead encourage you to get Dagger of Bad Mojo x2 or the badge polearm. Either of these should be a better combo than what you're suggesting.

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Old 08/10/08, 9:29 PM   #3617
KraxisSingular
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Ah well, there isn't likely to be two DoBM for me in anything like a near future and 150 badges will also take a fair time to do. However, this would be a nice step in the right direction for my Survival gear. So eventually I might be able ot make the switch. Obviously the badge fists aren't good for that, but it only requires one other proper fist to deal with that, and that seems more likely indeed.

In the meantime getting a relatively interesting boost from the weightstone is by itself enough for me.

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Old 08/11/08, 11:42 AM   #3618
Kasey
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I've had a question for a while now and was just wondering if anyone could help me out a little here. Between three trinkets, Dragonspine Trophy, Madness of the Betrayer and Blackened Naaru Sliver, what two would be best? I believe DST and Madness would be best which is what I am using at the moment, any feedback?

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Old 08/11/08, 12:09 PM   #3619
Faerdael
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The [Blackened Naaru Sliver] proc was modled to have 126.56 AP bonus on average, plus 54 passive haste, so I would have a hard time envisioning anything beating that. It of course all depends on your specific setup.

Seeing as you are running 7/20/34, 115 hit, and 2.52 draw speed, I would tend to thing that the DST and the Sliver are your best bet. The DST is hugely beneficial in this setup, the +20 hit on MotB is not of any value to you, and the extra 54 haste may be nice for dropping you into tighter rotations, assuming you are running a heavy steady setup.

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Old 08/11/08, 2:46 PM   #3620
Kasey
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I'm running 3:2 then 1:1 hasted, so yea.

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Old 08/11/08, 4:48 PM   #3621
KraxisSingular
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Originally Posted by Kasey View Post
I've had a question for a while now and was just wondering if anyone could help me out a little here. Between three trinkets, Dragonspine Trophy, Madness of the Betrayer and Blackened Naaru Sliver, what two would be best? I believe DST and Madness would be best which is what I am using at the moment, any feedback?
I believe the most powerful trinket setup is indeed the DST and Sliver. Double proc situations would rock your socks so to speak. And alone either are greater than the Madness. So go for DST and Sliver. Lucky bugger.

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Old 08/11/08, 11:42 PM   #3622
Kamaa
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Originally Posted by KraxisSingular View Post
I believe the most powerful trinket setup is indeed the DST and Sliver. Double proc situations would rock your socks so to speak. And alone either are greater than the Madness. So go for DST and Sliver. Lucky bugger.
DST and Sliver are both excellent and probably best in socket for SV. Neither of them is best in socket for a BM hunter.

Edit: For a hunter who has all best in socket items.

Last edited by Kamaa : 08/11/08 at 11:50 PM.

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Old 08/12/08, 9:16 AM   #3623
KraxisSingular
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I'm not saying you aren't right, but BM puts out more shots, meaning they gain more benefit from the Sliver, and while the DST can bring close to a tough speed, most Hunters would be rolling with a fairly slow weapon at that point. Effectively making the resulting 1:1 ride the GCD much better. In doubleproc situations the avantage even furthers.

Not saying that Surv won't find the combo best for them of course. Clearly DST helps with rotations (making Surv go 1:1 is a gerat boon), but the Sliver isn't perfect (if still best though), as it relies on number of shots to gain better benefit. The same problem isn't really there with BM.

And if this combo isn't best, what is then? Berserker's Call for synergy with BW? Madness for the ArP, which is likely to be fairly advanced at that point? Still, 300 ArP for 10 secs on a 1 PPM trinket doesn't feel like it can match the AP bonus of the Sliver nor the haste of the DST.

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Old 08/12/08, 10:17 AM   #3624
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As BM I'd probably go with berserker's call and sliver. In mostly sunwell gear, I'd even say madness surpasses DST. In BT gear, the 300 arpen proc isn't that much, but when you're rocking 1100+ arpen and account for debuffs on the boss, that extra 300 is going to be more significant than the DST haste.

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Old 08/12/08, 2:28 PM   #3625
Dirty
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Dear EJ'ers


I'm not that frequent of a poster (matter of fact, this is my first one), but have been reading up quite a lot of times here.

I do have a question about my pewpew macro (drums+tbw+berserker's call).

Lately it seems to not cast my Bestial Wrath/TBW anymore, so I have to click it manually, which kinda sucks. Also, sometimes I have to click it a couple of times (probably because steady shot is casting or something)


This is what my macro is:

/use Drums of Battle
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/p Drums up, next in 30 sec

I've tried adding /stopcasting on top, to make sure it interrupts my steadyshot, but it didn't help with the bestial wrath thing....


Could anyone help please?!

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Old 08/12/08, 2:38 PM   #3626
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Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
Dear EJ'ers


I'm not that frequent of a poster (matter of fact, this is my first one), but have been reading up quite a lot of times here.

I do have a question about my pewpew macro (drums+tbw+berserker's call).

Lately it seems to not cast my Bestial Wrath/TBW anymore, so I have to click it manually, which kinda sucks. Also, sometimes I have to click it a couple of times (probably because steady shot is casting or something)


This is what my macro is:

/use Drums of Battle
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/p Drums up, next in 30 sec

I've tried adding /stopcasting on top, to make sure it interrupts my steadyshot, but it didn't help with the bestial wrath thing....


Could anyone help please?!
Using Drums triggers the GCD, therefore not allowing BW in the same macro without hitting it twice. I suggest you make separate macros for Drums of Battle, and BW + Trinkets, or just spamming the macro more than once (although this will also spam party chat).

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Old 08/13/08, 12:46 AM   #3627
Kamaa
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Originally Posted by Drans View Post
Using Drums triggers the GCD, therefore not allowing BW in the same macro without hitting it twice. I suggest you make separate macros for Drums of Battle, and BW + Trinkets, or just spamming the macro more than once (although this will also spam party chat).
I'm able to use both at the same time with the same macro with a single button press.

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Old 08/13/08, 2:52 AM   #3628
Drans
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Originally Posted by Kamaa View Post
I'm able to use both at the same time with the same macro with a single button press.

After just testing it, it's definetly possible, I've just always had them seperate. As long as you have Drums of Battle as the last command, you can cast all three at the same time.

For example, my macro that casts BW + BC + Drums with a single press:

#showtooltip
/cast Bestial Wrath
/use Berserker's Call
/use Drums of Battle
/p --- Drums used, 30 seconds ---
/in 30 /p --- Next Drums NOW ---
/in 115 /p --- Drums up in 5 ---

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Old 08/13/08, 5:08 AM   #3629
Dirty
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Thanks guys, i'll try it out tonight in our BT run.


I had another question, quite an obvious one: I just joined a guild that's 4/6 in BT, and although, for my gear, my dps was nice on our last brutallus kill (2400dps), I was wondering what items I should try to get first.

Tier 6 parts shouldn't be a problem really, since most guys inthat guild even have full t6 for their offspec, but I'm talking more about things like trinkets, rings, etc....


What if I get madness of the betrayer trinket (the one with arp), what trinket should I switch it with?


Thanks for your help!

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Old 08/13/08, 8:54 AM   #3630
Gjorn
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Hi everyone. I play in a more casual guild than most of you guys, and I think I do fairly ok, for my gear level. However I'm not very good at analyzing WWS logs and similar stuff, so I though I'd ask here if there is anything that seems blatantly wrong with my shot rotation, or other things.

Here is a WWS from my first full ZA clear. I'm the only hunter, Io. I think it went fairly well on this run, dps wise, but I wonder if I could do better. It's the first run where I've experimented with haste potions, since I normally need the cooldowns for mana pots. Hence I only had a total of five haste pots with me.

Armory

Also, I'm sitting at 25% crit, at the moment. Would that mean I should start looking at a windserpent instead of my ravager?

Thanks for any input.

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