valir2.0

this is actually a question for WWS and how to get it to work, but this thread/forum seems more active than teh WWS forums.


So i downloaded it, im not 100% computer savvy. I know that i have to go to the logs and reports tab. And then i have to load a log? Where exactly are these logs located within my WoW folder? I cant find them =(

 

Keltan

\World of Warcraft\Logs\WoWCombatLog.txt

(This is assuming of course that you actually turned the logger on ingame and created a combat log.)

 

valir2.0

kk thx.


Also--> im getting frustrated of the lack of boot drops. Ive been exalted with violet eye for 8 months, been with the guild through vashj progression and we are now on kael.


ZERO HUNTER BOOTS HAVE DROPPED, zero fiend slayer, zero vashj boots, zero boots from TK. What the heck boots can i get ? (and i havent seen edgewalker drop EVER either). Are there any craftable boots that are BoE? Or is there boots from an instance that are good?

 

QuiggyB

 

QuiggyB

Get a utility like LoggerHead from wowace. This will increase your log range to 200 yards (required) and allow you to automatically enable / disable your combat log based on the zone you are in. Just set it to turn on logging in the raid zones you care about.

With the WWS client you need to add a log file. Then you flip to the other tab and click auto-update actors. Scroll through the list and make sure all of the members of your raid and their pets are properly set. Correct any errors. For example, PallyX might be listed as a mob and you have set him as a pally. Or the pet for HunterX might be listed as a mob and you need to list it as a pet associated with HunterX.

Then go back to the tab where you added the combat log, give it a title and click the host report button.

Finally delete your existing combat log to keep things clean. If you forget to do this before en evening of raiding you can always use a good text editor like TextPad to delete the lines before the start of your raid, save the file then use the WWS client.

 

Kiera

Hi guys,

I hope I am not breaking any forum ettiquette, but I need some help.

I have been reading a lot about /castsequence macros (Nice thread Norwest on the wow boards), and how they help with personal DPS, but after reading so much theorycrafting and spreadsheets, formulas, algorithms, etc. I am quite confused.

How do you guys create your macros? Is there a simple to use tool or formula I can use?

Here are some details of my spec:

41/20/0
5/5 Serpent;s Swiftness- +20% attack speed
No imp arcane talents

Bow speed- 2.90
Quiver- +15% attack speed

Thanks!

 

Jab

Well, I for my part took the most basic auto/steady macro I could find

/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot

and tweaked all the other stuff I liked in it. (e.g. KC or Lightning Breath for your windserpent or some UIErrorFrame functions)
as a BM you generally just take the above + your personal tweaks and test it out on Dr. Boom or some other wildilfe. It's just some testing =)

This again leads me to my question for this thread.
On the PTR my macro still works, however, what it does is make my Dworf wiggle around every time I finished a steady an wait for an Autoshot to come off. It's really annoying =(
I guess it's the continued application of Auto Shot on a mob thats already getting autoshot, but does anyone have any idea on how to turn the wiggling off?
Thanks in advance

 

Rhoi

For my inner demon, I tend to make sure I have my frost trap already on the ground before they come out so if I need to I can place an Immolation trap for a boost of damage if it doesnt look like he will be dead in time. Snake trap is okay too but I dont use it as I am scared that knowing my luck the snakes will get the killing blow and I'll get MC'd anyways.

I stand on my trap so as soon as my demon spawns and comes to me he sets it off. I wing clip him and strafe into range, as this doubly slows him, and then I plink away at him. Throw up a Serpent Sting to keep the damage ticking. If you're lucky he will stop and cast at you and you can get off a steady or two. As he gets into melee, run through him and wing clip again. Keep running forwards through him to the other side of your frost trap aura and rinse and repeat.

If he is getting pretty low on health you can always Concussive Shot him to slow him down, so you can get off an extra shot or two to take away that last little bit and/or throw down an Immolation Trap like I said before.

If youre having trouble with him hitting you, throw up Aspect of the Monkey for that extra bit of dodge and chance to Mongoose as you run past him.

It takes a bit of practise to joust with your demon like this but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple. It helps if youve done your Rhok/Lok quests pre BC where you had to do basically the same thing for one of those four demons

The past few Leo attempts I've been on, using this method, I have had my inner demon down with about 10 seconds to spare. Hope this helps.

 

Cranch

I thought the simple strategy was to sic your growling pet on it, then at around 15% put your pet on passive and stay and kill the demon off. (Note I haven't made it to Leo yet but the strategy makes sense to me.)

 

Rhoi

It makes sense if your pet is alive. Many people on their first few attempts find it difficult to keep their pets out of whirwinds and there is no healing through that dot damage.

if my pet is alive I sik him on my demon but I dont use him to get agro, just for the extra damage. I still treat it the same as I posted above

 

jammer11

I've looked for the answer to this but was unable to find anything directly relating to my question.

Is there any theorycraft or statistics on the difference in dps between the different races for hunters? How much will you be gimping yourself if you take a blood elf hunter vs. an orc or troll?

 

Stinkerbelle

And in a month or so when 2.3 comes out you can upgrade those to

[Nyn'jah's Tabi Boots]

 

Stinkerbelle

I've not heard of anyone getting MCd due to a trap getting the killing blow (snake or immo), but it's a valid question I guess since snake trap agro has unusual dynamics--for example you don't get agro when the snakes target unagroed mobs. The pet killing blow problem was a bug that was patch-fixed about a month ago, so I doubt that a trap killing blow matters either (if it ever did).

Not much use for Snake Trap beyond slowing though if the stats on Wowiki are correct:

 

Alaszun

So, I've been really dissatisfied with my damage recently: I haven't had a raid since I upgraded three pieces of gear on Tuesday (since we raid MTFSun), but I've gotten the feeling that I'm botching something either somewhere in my shot rotation . In my old guild when I was BM, I was at or near the top of the damage meters in pretty much every fight. I respecced survival fairly recently; I was prepared for my damage output to drop somewhat, but my old guild died at the same time. I found a new guild, but my damage output is lacking greatly. I'm sure part of it is because I was outgeared (and I did have pretty much the worst gear of the DPSers who are usually there), but I have to feel that I'm not living up to my DPS potential at all.

My current spec is 0/23/38 (you can see it in the armory), and I'll use one of three rotations, depending on the situation:

If I'm in a situation where crowd controlled mobs are near and I can't break them, I'll use the following 1.5:1 rotation:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence Auto Shot, Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, Auto Shot, Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()

If I've been hit by some haste effect so that my optimal rotation drops down to 1:1 (I suppose being just Drums of Battle or Rapid Fire, since I don't have IAOTH anymore), I'll drop down to a steady/auto rotation:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()


Finally, if I'm allowed to go full out without any CC concerns, since I have points in barrage, I'll go:

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=target Steady Shot, Multi-Shot, Auto Shot, Steady Shot, Auto Shot, Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, Auto Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()

Which is essentially a 1.5:1 alternating between multi and arcane after every other steady shot. Part of me is worried that my macro isn't working right: ideally, I should have a 1;1 ratio between auto shots and steady shots, but the ratio doesn't even appear to be close. I was never AFK autoshooting in the run, even on the trash, so the numbers shouldn't be skewed by any period like that. Do I need an actual number to put in my target for my reset on my macros? Is there something I'm doing fundamentally wrong here? One of my worries is just that Wolfslayer may be a terrible weapon to use for a 1.5:1 rotation (because of being too fast), but the only slower weapon I have that's even decent is Steelhawk, which I'm pretty sure is still worse. I'm basically trying to find any way to better my DPS that I can, because I don't personally feel it's at an acceptable level right now.

Here's the relevant WWS from the SSC run on Tuesday; I realize it wasn't my best run: I got triple cataclysm bolted on Karathress, so I has no consumables for the last one to save myself with, and I generally wasn't consumabling up, because it was (more or less) a farm run:

Wow Web Stats

 

Goreshot

Why would you use a macro for a 1:1.5 rotation? I can understand why some might prefer it for Steady->Auto spam as BM under certain circumstances. However, the 1:1.5 rotation is significantly easier to pull off, as literally half the time you don't have to worry about your timing at all, and you have a much larger margin for error. I would recommend just getting used to hitting the buttons in the correct sequence...

"User is a tremendous douchenozzel"
-Actual EJ Forums feedback concerning Goreshot.

 

Alaszun

I'm doing it because, at best, while hand timing shots, I'll be able to do as well as I would if I used a macro (assuming fairly low latency, which tends to be true). My goal is to optimize my DPS: since in my mind I can only help myself via a macro (since it seems to me that hand timing has a much higher error chance than simply pounding a macro), I'm trying to use a macro to control the ideal shot rotation.

Also, like I said, since I'm using Wolfslayer, I'm really worried that the 2.70 speed is too fast for a 1:1.5 rotation. Ideally, I should have .5 seconds of time between my last special and the autoshot: since I'm using a faster-than-normal weapon, my timing, in my opinion, has to be even more precise than a BM hunter using a 1:1 rotation. Hence, I have even less room for error, which means that being able to do it via a macro seems optimal to me.

Alternately, would handtiming it with /stopcasting macros actually be better than a macro, because a macro can be highly sensitive to lag?

 

hase2

Hi all,

i had an 'argument' with my raid leader yesterday about the use of T4 or D3 in lower 25 instances.
Question is - does my damage really increase that much with the additional stats on the set to justify losing the 600 armorpiercing bonus of the D3 set.
I did some calculations with the Excel Sheet and it came up that i have a higher theoretical damage with the D3 while losing about 150 HP.

Our groups always contain a WL, Feral Druid and a Warrior - so all armor lowering debuffs are on the mobs.

Thx in advance
Ari

edit: 41/20 spec

 

JuhnorX

You can get MC'd from a snake poison or snake bite getting the killing blow, in the same way as your pet getting the killing blow from an attack or poison DoT.

I always use immolate trap at the start of Demon phase, then wingclip, run to range, pet intimidate/growl to 15-20% then pet passive and finish nuking.

It seems Snake trap is the only trap which will screw you up here.

 

• Slash

In regard to killing your inner demon on Leotheras as a BM Hunter. I keep my pet by my side for the entire fight to stop him dieing to WW. Just before demons spawn i drop a frost trap and turn growl on for my pet. When my demon spawns i send my pet on him and cast intimidation, i then run to range and start off with arcane-auto-multi-auto, i then spam my Steady-auto macro. He's usually long dead before he gets near to melee range on me. Intimidation buys you a lot more time to shoot at him from range.

 

Gruknok

Every delayed special shot will delay auto, so no i dont agree that half of the time you dont have to worry about rotation. You need to watch atleast shot animation to pull of steady on time. For me with ~150 latency macroed sequence increases my dps by ~100 maybe even more.

In addition you have 100% focus on enviroment, cooldowns, orders etc.

 

Gruknok

Heroic SV bow is so much better in your case than wolfslayer. The weapon dps on wolfslayer is lost anyway cause of delays. Also Wrathtide multishots and autoshots do more damage.

The macro will do slighly more autoshots if you keep using it after feigning, moving etc. You need to put the arcane/multi cooldown in the right order manualy then start the macro again. Also try to feign after arcane/multi because then auto timer is reset so you can easily weave steady+special when you get up.

Just go somewhere out and try switching targets, stopping shoting for couple secondss and test how the reset timer will effect your macro. I use 5 secs since after five secs of no shooting i can usualy start the macro from the beginning without having flaws. Also when doing the manual specials the timer will reset the macro when needed.

I also use autoshot as the oepener in the macro. This way the time when you use first steady+multi is also an autoshot cooldown.

You might want to try putting 5/5 in arcane shot to reduce the stress on autoshots and macro. And use BM macro with rapid fire+trinket.

 

Lindelle

I'm in agreement with you. I don't macro my rotation, but I have to pretty much keep my eyes pinned on the GCD timer I use.

 

whitemanfromtown

This was fixed in 2.2

 

JuhnorX

Apparently "they" didn't fix it very well.

 

Cheeky

I've had my pet finish off my Inner Demon a few times now. There hasn't been any MC that occurred from it.

Cheeky of Havoc