Yes i was going to make a thread on this but decided to come here first.


I read this thread

WoW Forums -> OFFICIAL FIX OUR MACROS THREAD


I am confused how are they changing latency? And why the HELL would they take out cast sequence macros. Honestly, without them my dps drops a lot (mainly because I get fps spikes due to an outdated computer, and cast sequence helps during these spikes).


But I am having problems finding specific information on cast sequence macros.

It's my understanding, from what i've read, that when the Auto Shot item is reached in the Macro, the Auto Shot is toggled off for some reason. I wish I had more details to offer.

I was wondering if anyone has figured out how much armor you have to ignore to equal 1DPS or equally how much would equal 14 AP for gear comparison.

From what I've seen there's 3 problems atm.

1. Autoshot toggling: /cast autoshot and subsequently /castsequence ..., autoshot, ... was changed from a /startattack sort of toggle to a on/off toggle. This means that on the autoshot step of a castsequence macro you will effectively be toggling auto shot off with one press and on with the next. Hopefully this is reversed.
2. Castsequence problem 1: /castsequence spell1, spell2 would end up casting in an incorrect order because apparently casting is handled client side, but switching to the next spell is still handled server side. This was only an issue with a certain amount of lag, and the ptr's have stablized too much for me to check on this. So this may have been fixed.
3. Castseqence problem 2: /castsequnce stalling. I have no idea why, but for some reason since 7501 my macro just stalls randomly. I.e., I will be mashing it and nothing happens! Very mysterious.

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What does everyone suggest as the best autoshot cast bar, and where can i find it

My vote is for Quartz, that you can find here:
Quartz | World of Warcraft @ Curse.com

KHT is another one, shows all hunter cooldowns but it can be setup as a pure autoshot timer.

I'm back with more weapon questions. My guild has SSC and TK on farm except for Vashj and TK, we are working on Vashj currently. We regularly have three rogues and me as the only hunter. Some of the rogues were asking me about melee weapons and whether or not I intended to bid PR on the Al'ar gun. Ranged weapons have been discussed at length recently, but I haven't seen any talk of melee, especially considering all the new options available in 2.3. This is my brief number crunch with the spreadsheet:

Basically Jin'rok from ZA is by far better than anything else out there from what I can tell. Am I missing some obvious combination of one handers for the extra 5 agi / mana oil?

Dagger of Bad Mojo + Akil'Zon's Talonblade together are about as good as Jin'Rohk, and if you are able to replace the Talonblade with a Blade of Infamy (which you might very soon), then the 2 1H's are a bit better than the Jin'Rohk as far as pure dps goes, and assuming you are hit-capped. If you're 30 under the hit cap or more, then the Halberd of Desolation is the best weapon to use for instantaneous dps.

Hey guys- long time follower of this thread, first time posting. I'm having some problems keeping up in dps. I've discussed this on my guild's forums to some length and it's been mostly explained away as being behind the other hunters in gear (see armory below).

What I'm seeing is pretty good dps (I was only there for 3 of 4 boss kills) but big differences in how it added up. I'm seeing autoshot as 32% of my overall damage, with pet melee then steady coming in as next highest damage dealers. Our top dps hunters are showing auto as generally 40% of total dps, then steady, then pet dmg way lower on the list. Will a crap bow make that big a difference on impact of my shots, or is there something I'm missing?

I'm using a macro for steady shot/kill command, but everything else is manually done. My dps jumped up considerably after adding quartz & a few other mods. My pet usually outdamages all the other pets by a good measure (cat with dash/claw/bite) but my damage is still nothing to write home about. Would someone smarter give it a look?

(as an aside, I'll very likely go back to MM spec with 2.3, and that will likely coincide with getting my arena bow. Of course that'll turn everything on its head.)

WWS:
Wow Web Stats
armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory

Does anyone have a mod that would give a warning when Hunter's Mark is about to expire? I use Karthus' Hunter Timers, and they work great but keeping track of how much time is remaining is a pain. If anyone knows of a mod that would give a warning with like 10 seconds to go or something like that it would be great.

Something like the bigwigs timers would be great. Having a small bar for hunter's mark that enlarges with 10 seconds left.

Yea a bigwig timer would be great. I tried Quartz and it is nice but there is something that it doesn't do that KHT does, like trap duration or something like that. I don't care to know any other skill's end just hunters mark. Maybe the lugMd or SimpleMd folks could incorporate it to talk to other hunters in the raid to know if someone else has it up. I just hate it when I look up at the debuffs and dont see the little crosshairs.

Well, autoshot damage scales with both AP and weapon proprieties (speed, base weapon damage, dps, etc). That means a very fast or very low dps weapon (or both) will reduce damage done by each autoshot individually, and the ratio of autoshot damage overall. So, yes, a crappy bow makes a difference.

Steady shot damage only scales with AP - formula is (RAP*0.3+150) if i'm not mistaken - so low AP makes it do less damage, but you can actually achieve the same damage with two completly different weapons in term of ilevel and speed, as long as the total AP remains unchanged.

Pet melee scales a lot slower than either of the above, though, so at low AP (which is your case), it will make up for a larger amount of the total damage. The biggest scaling pet melee gets from is AP. Now, the pet gets a rather small bonus from your AP and agility, but as you can see in the WWS, the number of melee attacks your pet performed is 2150, for an average of 224. That's about 2-3 times more than either of your abilities, that deal 3 times the damage. Even including missed and mitigated attacks, pet melee still manages to be your second largest source of damage, by sheer frequency.
It will stay so for as long as (number of attacks*scaling bonus) > (number of attacks*scaling bonus) for your other ability or abilities.

You'll see that as you get a weapon with more base damage and more AP on your gear, these percentages will shift more towards your own abilities rather than your pet's.

Also, it may have something to do with your focus on AP and on socket bonuses, rather than agility. Quite simply put, other hunters in a raid environment will get more than 2AP and some crit from 2 points point of agility, while you won't. Now, this is not a bad solution, overall, but it does indirectly relate to your question, because the total damage of an ability is made up by adding all damage done by hits and crits.
You can choose to increase hit damage by increasing AP, or you can choose to increase crit damage by increasing frequency. Overall, you get a better effect from the multiplicative increase that agility provides, rather than the flat additive increase of AP.

Now, i don't want you to take this as a "resocket all your stuff" post far from it, but i just wanted to point out this is basically one of the less obvious effects of gear choices.

Oh, and, one more thing.... While an increase in crit/agility would also benefit your pet as well, that benefit translates more and more into Kill Command, and less into regular melee attacks, helping all the ratios fall into the positions you noticed for the other hunters.

I didn't really do any math for this on the spot, but basically that's the explanation i could find.

You are mistaken. The formula for Steady Shot is not what you wrote, it's:
DamageModifiers*(RAP*0.2+(WeaponDamage/WeaponSpeed)*2.8+150+[Dazed:175])

Average damage:
DamageModifiers*(RAP*0.2+DPS*2.8+150+[Dazed:175])

It's been like this since beta. The tooltip is incorrect, and is slated to be fixed in an upcoming patch.

Fair enough. Feel free to disregard the paragraph about steady shot. I've got these things all down on some text documents, just stumbled across the wrong formula in an older document i guess. Most likely the one i got from thottbot; they're quite inaccurate at times.

Conclusion is that the weapon stats make a difference for BOTH steady shot and autoshot, then, but from what i can tell there is still no major reason of concern about the numbers in the WWS, though. They should slide into position with gear improvements, right?

And thanks, Lactose. It's high time i double check all my formulae, i guess.

A) Fix your Grammar, CAPITALIZE.

B) Wolfslayer is better if you have low latency and BM, otherwise the Sunfury is better.

Hello guys;

My situation: i live in South Africa and i play on European realms, what this means is i get around 600ms-800ms which is quite high.

My question is, as a BM hunter i am clipping around 0.5seconds (or more even) between my auto shots and my steady shots(and vice versa), i use the standard BM macro currently and i have tried timing my shots manually, but with a sluggish PC (20fps) coupled together with lag it becomes immensely cumbersome and difficult.

are there any other solutions which you think that might help me?

thanks in advance.

Could someone link me to an explanation of haste and ignore armor and how important it is (or isn't) to BM Hunters?

What is the value, for example, of the

[Choker of Serrated Blades]
vs
[Worgen Claw Necklace]?

I guess I do not know how to value +haste/ignore armor - is this covered in a thread somewhere?

The relative value is dependent on your spec, gear, and in the case of armor penetration, the armor of the boss you're fighting. I'd recommend plugging in your numbers and gear into the Hunter DPS spreadsheet located here and comparing the results.

Well, the first thing you need to know is that, unlike AP and stats, neither haste nor armor reduction have any effect on your pet. How important that is to you, i don't know, but it's something you need to be aware of before planning gear upgrades.

Firstly, let's see about haste; it depends on how well you can time your rotation and what weapon speed you're using. That determines the "dead" time between when your steady shot and your autoshot are fired. Haste comes in handy for reducing that idle time, and even a BM can benefit from small amounts of haste to tweak their rotation.

Armor penetration: it depends on the armor value of the boss, as was said before. But, basically, armor grants a % reduction in physical damage done to the target. The more armor you can ignore, the more damage you do after the armor mitigation. Armor penetration basically scales with your damage, it becomes more and more effective the more damage you can theoretically do before armor mitigation.

For instance 10700 armor is 50% damage reduction. Assuming you consistently do 1000 damage per shot on 0 armor, you're going to do 500 damage with 50% damage reduction.
But if you somehow manage to ignore 3700 of that armor, you come to a point where you get 40% damage reduction. Again, we go back to the 1000 damage shot, run it through the mitigation checks and get 600 damage this time. That's a 20% increase in damage done.

The figures are unrealistic, but i've used them for simplicity.

I was reading down from this post a bit and was hoping to see a reply to it. I don't see how you think MM hunters don't use a special shot rotation when ultimately the more shots you get off/hit with, the more dps you do. If I am wrong about the adding of specials into the shot rotationf for MM hutners, please let me know.