If your attack speed is 1.81, would you need to change to reset time? It seems as though the reset is a little too long and my rotation goes outta whack. Would you change it to 2?
And also just a little edit. My wep is 2.50 speed which probably might causing the problem seeing how 2.6-2.7 is what you should aim for.
I also got a question about this macro. The ''reset=3'' means that it resets after 3 seconds right? Does the 3 seconds effects with ranged weapon speed? For example, does the 3 seconds effects an ranged weapon with 2.7 and 3.0 speed?
I don´t know if I understood your question correct but in a /castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot statement the reset condition simply means that it will restart at the beginning after 3 seconds of not continuing the sequence. So this is only a backup condition to reset the sequence in case you didn´t cycle thru the whole sequence anyway (eg. you did cast your auto shot) to prevent it from getting stucked at a certain point.
Hey guys, I really need help. I am not putting out nearly enough dps for my guild to be happy.
I am half kara epics, half 66-70 rares and I have my t4 gloves. I am spec'd 41/20/0.
I currently pretty much spam steady shot and occasionally throw in a arcane shot when available or multi-shot if needed.
I am capping out at about 600 dps including my pet with is putting out about 220dps my pet is currently a cat.
My cat has the highest level of bite, claw, dash and growl.
I was pretty satisfied with my overall dps until I saw hunters that with their pets included doing between 1800-2800 dps
I understand that their gear is far better then mine but I feel like I should be able to cap 1000 dps.
I have some gear that needs to replaced and I know that.
I have no shot rotation macro because I am having trouble making one thanks to serpents swiftness. I do have a 28 crit rating scope for my bow but I haven't put it on yet because I am hoping for my sunfury bow.
Please help me.
(I feel like I am playing a game of "Pimp my Hunter")
Well first off chaos, you should really invest a little time into upgrading your gear. In this world of "welfare" state we have in which you can get t5 quality gear through badges and ZA, not to mention the greatness of s3 gear you can pretty much cut out the t4/t5 instances barring one or two items. When it comes to your shot rotation, you do understand the fundamental necessity to not just spam attacks, and instead hold back for just long enough to let an auto fly? You would have to post WWS logs for me to understand if you're doing a perfect priority rotation which should net huge dps at your gear level, or just spamming shots hither-to and choking your white damage.
I wont give you a castsequence macro because I don't use them and spurn the idea, however a quick search of these forums should produce several macros which will take out the finesse from your character and turn you into a machine (for damage). Also any people you see doing in excess of 2.5kdps have not only had their dps inflated by a strong t6 guild (lotp, heroisms, judgement of wisdom constantly ect all play a big part) but are posting those logs from specific fights which allow (usually) non-stop dps which few of the fights you will see yet allow.
As survival with 4/5 imp arcane, using a 1:1.5 steady/arcane/auto rotation (hence trinket buff up 100% of the time),
I am also seeing an increase in Cheeky spreadsheet dps of about 5 dps compared to hourglass. (the other trinket is bloodlust brooch)
While normally if cheeky's spreadsheet told me the world was flat, i'd believe it... I was wondering if anyone could comment more on the talon > hourglass theory.
**EDIT**
I found the reason for the discrepancy. It depends on whether the target has sunders and CoR on it or not. Without the armor penetration, arcane shots do more dps. With a fully sundered, CoR'd target, the optimal 1:1.5 includes multishot and hourglass.
so, i guess talon of al'ar is only good for places where you're not going to have a solid amount of armor penetration?
That's interesting. I still doubt it's a useful trinket in almost any progression fight. Good to know the math works out in the end though. (Modeling that trinket was a royal pain in the ass to do.)
I don´t know if I understood your question correct but in a /castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot statement the reset condition simply means that it will restart at the beginning after 3 seconds of not continuing the sequence. So this is only a backup condition to reset the sequence in case you didn´t cycle thru the whole sequence anyway (eg. you did cast your auto shot) to prevent it from getting stucked at a certain point.
Yes, sry I couldn't get a post in sooner, but shortly after posting that up I figured out what I was doing wrong. Problem wasn't macro, it was me lol. Never really used macros until right now so still learning.
I wouldn't do so. Your guild has Hydross on farm don't they? [Ring of Lethality] from Hydross will cap your hit rating. It shouldn't be a big issue replacing it with your PvP-ring. Same goes for [Tsunami Talisman] from Leo.
Wouldn't it be even easier to just make sure to always keep a stack of [Recipe: Spicy Hot Talbuk] handy. With the hit cap being 142, AFAIK, that would put him exactly on the hit cap with that gear.
Wouldn't it be even easier to just make sure to always keep a stack of [Recipe: Spicy Hot Talbuk] handy. With the hit cap being 142, AFAIK, that would put him exactly on the hit cap with that gear.
If he's going to use food, 20 agi will increase his DPS more than 20 hit rating.
Quick question - Can someone confirm for me the hit cap for Survial hunters? I'm currently at 83 and have 3/3 surefooted (Surv/MM - 41/20). The spreadsheet says I should have 100% chance to hit, but saw a few misses in viewing the stats from ReCount after some SSC; almost never saw mosses before. Recently changed from gauntlets of sniping to gauntlets of the dragonslayer; +8agi gems x 2 and +15agi enchant on both.
Quick question - Can someone confirm for me the hit cap for Survial hunters? I'm currently at 83 and have 3/3 surefooted (Surv/MM - 41/20). The spreadsheet says I should have 100% chance to hit, but saw a few misses in viewing the stats from ReCount after some SSC; almost never saw mosses before. Recently changed from gauntlets of sniping to gauntlets of the dragonslayer; +8agi gems x 2 and +15agi enchant on both.
Check if you´ve turned on Fairie Fire (Improved 3/3) in the Target Debuffs section which adds 3% hit chance.
I'm a BM specced hunter (41/17/3) in mostly tier 5 level gear and I have so far focused on maximising Attack Power rather than Agility. This is something of a legacy from the Scorpid Poison days where I wanted my scorpids spell damage as high as possible. My unbuffed RAP currently sits at 1999 and fully raid buffed gets up to 2656.
I'm just wondering if I can expect to see a significant increase in DPS if I go through the process of swapping all my gems and enchants over for Agility ones where possible? Obviously this would be an expensive exercise which is why I'm asking this here rather than just trying it out.
I'm a BM specced hunter (41/17/3) in mostly tier 5 level gear and I have so far focused on maximising Attack Power rather than Agility. This is something of a legacy from the Scorpid Poison days where I wanted my scorpids spell damage as high as possible. My unbuffed RAP currently sits at 1999 and fully raid buffed gets up to 2656.
I'm just wondering if I can expect to see a significant increase in DPS if I go through the process of swapping all my gems and enchants over for Agility ones where possible? Obviously this would be an expensive exercise which is why I'm asking this here rather than just trying it out.
This kind of general question is difficult to answer. It depends on what your current crit % is as well. My advice is to try running your gear/spec/rotation through the spreadsheet and see what it tells you. (Honestly, that's how I answer these kinds of questions for myself.)
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I was wondering if people here could give me some advice on my gem/enchant selection.
I know the spec is far from the best bm raid spec and I will respec once I have a chance to raid SSC/TK more consistently. The spec right now is for pvp/pve together. What is the general BM raid spec? It seems like there are variations between improved mending/rez/spirit bond, what did you guys choose or recommend? Also when raiding SSC/TK and beyond, is there anything I should change on my gem and enchant selection. I tried cheeky's spreadsheet on my openoffice and for some reason coulld't get it to work. Is my ap/crit/agi combination off-balance? If so what should I change to achieve that? (also if anyone could run my char's stats with a 1:1 priority rotation I would LOVE to know what my estimated dps would be, I have a cat and windserpent)
About ap vs agi... what's the comparison on this? I am under the impression that 2ap and 1 agi yields extemely similar dps improvement. Does the majority of hunter community agree with this or is this still debatable? Some basic math model would certainly help a lot (say 1800 ap 25% crit for example)
If you want a raid-focused BM spec, you're going to want to spec something to the effect of: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft The 1 point in endurance training is filler. Improved Revived Pet is there because when you're pet isn't alive, your DPS suffers;you want it back up and in the fight as quickly as possible, the reduced mana cost is an added bonus. Improved Mend Pet vs Spirit Bond is somewhat a matter of personal preference. Dispelers don't always watch pets for debuffs, so this gives you the ability to remove them yourself.
As far as seeing how much potential you could do with your gear/upgrades I'd recommend downloading Cheeky's spreadsheet which can be found here.
Originally Posted by DeeNogger
Every time I bite into an oatmeal raisin cookie mistaken for a chocolate-chip an angle loses its wings. Fucking trani's of the cookie world!
Note, I don't consider that to be a very good macro, but if you insist on that particular rotation, changing it as I suggested will at least make it functional.
Sorry kamaa, but as i said in my post using !Auto Shot doesn't change anything. Macros still get "stuck" for 1 autoshot after first one.
Note that after this "pause" macro proceed well till next arcane, so i believe it's something related to using 2 specials or something, still testing this.
As for rotation criticize, don't know how you can improve the castsequence but ok
It doesn't take as long to get used to as you might think; I picked it up pretty smoothly after one night in Hyjal/BT. Of course, it certainly takes more concentration than it would if /castsequence actually worked.
Sorry kamaa, but as i said in my post using !Auto Shot doesn't change anything. Macros still get "stuck" for 1 autoshot after first one.
Note that after this "pause" macro proceed well till next arcane, so i believe it's something related to using 2 specials or something, still testing this.
As for rotation criticize, don't know how you can improve the castsequence but ok
Edit: Typos
You said !Autoshots doesn't work, which is not the same as !Auto Shot. I can attest the new !auto shot command works as intended. I used it to clear 4/5 Hyjal last night and topped the meters on almost every fight. My macro didn't stick once.
Try deleting your old macro and creating a new one from scratch? Maybe it's a small error somewhere that you're just not noticing. I'd suggest minor changes as noted below.
That first auto is free, take it. #showtooltip... well, I just like it. ;-)
Edit: Based on you and the other posters it would appear that there is a problem specific to mm/sv maros. I can't look at the blizz forums from work but I wouldn't count on blizz fixing it any time soon. This is probably a great time to become accustomed to manual weaving. Learn to do it right and blizz can never take it away from you.
My fiance's hunter is level 70 and her hit rating sucks (as in it's 33). What are some good, easy to get, gear options for increasing her hit rating? She has the crystal forged 2h axe but the rest of her gear is readily available to replace. Any ideas would be great, thanks!
Sonic spear - Shadow Labs
Ravenclaw Band - Sethekk Halls
Also the Beast Lord set is great, fairly easy to get and has lots of sockets. Add some +agi/+hit gems and you should be able to get ~20 hit rating.
Oh, and don't forget the glyph from Cenarion Expedition (requires exalted)... it adds +ap and +hit to a head slot item. Worth the gold if you have it to spend. All of this assume that you are not raiding, i'm not sure if raid loot is considered "easy to get" gear.
Sorry I can't more info but I'm strapped for time at work.
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