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Old 07/16/08, 2:41 AM   #251
Vanimakhelek
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Earthen Ring
top dps

Hunter DPS 2215.56
Total DPS 2824.80
Ranged Critical Hit Chance vs. Level 73 47.06%
Ranged Hit Chance vs. Level 73 99.95%

Health 9597
Armor 7456
Mana 7459

Race Night Elf

Main Hand [Shiv of Exsanguination]
Enchant Agility (One Hand)

Off Hand [Shiv of Exsanguination]
Enchant Agility (One Hand)

Head Custom ([Coif of Alleria])
Enchant Glyph of Ferocity
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Meta Socket 2 Relentless Earthstorm Diamond (12 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Neck Clutch of Demise

Shoulders [Gronnstalker's Spaulders]
Enchant Greater Inscription of Vengeance
Yellow Socket 1 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Blue Socket 2 Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Back Custom ([Cloak of Unforgivable Sin])
Enchant Greater Agility
Yellow Socket 1 Glinting Pyrestone (5 Agi, 5 Hit)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Chest [Bladed Chaos Tunic]
Enchant Exceptional Stats
Blue Socket 1 Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
Yellow Socket 2 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Red Socket 3 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Wrist [Gronnstalker's Bracers]
Enchant Assault
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Hands Custom ([Thalassian Ranger Gauntlets])
Enchant Superior Agility
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Yellow Socket 2 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Waist [Gronnstalker's Belt]
Enchant None
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Legs [Leggings of the Immortal Night]
Enchant Nethercobra Leg Armor
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Red Socket 2 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Red Socket 3 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Feet [Gronnstalker's Boots]
Enchant Dexterity
Yellow Socket 1 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Ring [Angelista's Revenge]

Ring [Band of Ruinous Delight]

Trinket [Berserker's Call]

Trinket [Ashtongue Talisman of Swiftness]

Ranged Weapon Custom ([Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury])
Enchant [Schematic: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope]

Quiver [Quiver of a Thousand Feathers]


This is the highest dps I've gotten, using my own personal character stats (The jewelcrafting neck, [Hard Khorium Choker], is more dps, but not available to me at this time.)

I used Cheeky's raid buffs, but changed the food buff to [Spicy Hot Talbuk]

Also, the dps would be higher if [Adamantite Sharpening Stone] were added to both shiv's. I'm not sure whether that would do more dps than [Righteous Weapon Coating], but I don't think there's a way to factor that in on the spreadsheet yet.

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Old 07/22/08, 7:43 PM   #252
Sherbet
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Scilla
1:1 steady shot rotation for everything
Assumed Professions: LW/JC
DST Proc rate is set at 2 ppm

Hunter DPS 2216.66

Pet Wind Serpent
Base DPS 391.68
Special DPS 136.97
KC DPS 134.49
Total Pet DPS 664.35

Total DPS 2881.01
Ranged Critical Hit Chance vs. Level 73 47.91%
Ranged Hit Chance vs. Level 73 99.95%


Health 9655
Armor 7450
Mana 7410


Race Orc

Main Hand [Shiv of Exsanguination]
Enchant Greater Agility (One Hand)
No Socket 1 None
No Socket 2 None
No Socket 3 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Off Hand [Shiv of Exsanguination]
Enchant Greater Agility (One Hand)
No Socket 1 None
No Socket 2 None
No Socket 3 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Head [Coif of Alleria]
Enchant [Item not found!]
Meta Socket 1 Relentless Earthstorm Diamond (12 Agi)
Red Socket 2 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
No Socket 3 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Neck [Hard Khorium Choker]
Yellow Socket 1 Glinting Pyrestone (5 Agi, 5 Hit)
No Socket 2 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Shoulders [Gronnstalker's Spaulders]
Enchant [Greater Inscription of Vengeance]
Yellow Socket 1 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Blue Socket 2 Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Back [Cloak of Unforgivable Sin]
Enchant Greater Agility
Yellow Socket 1 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Chest [Bladed Chaos Tunic]
Enchant Exceptional Stats
Blue Socket 1 Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
Yellow Socket 2 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Red Socket 3 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Wrist [Gronnstalker's Bracers]
Enchant Assault
Red Socket 1 Crimson Sun (24 AP)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Hands [Thalassian Ranger Gauntlets]
Enchant Superior Agility
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Yellow Socket 2 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Waist [Gronnstalker's Belt]
Enchant None
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
No Socket 2 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Legs [Leggings of the Immortal Night]
Enchant [Nethercobra Leg Armor]
Red Socket 1 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Red Socket 2 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Red Socket 3 Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
Socket Bonus Achieved

Feet [Gronnstalker's Boots]
Enchant Dexterity
Yellow Socket 1 Smooth Lionseye (10 Crit)
No Socket 2 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Ring [Angelista's Revenge]
Enchant None
No Socket 1 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Ring [Band of Ruinous Delight]
Enchant None
No Socket 1 None
Socket Bonus Achieved

Trinket [Dragonspine Trophy]
Trinket [Madness of the Betrayer]

Ranged Weapon [Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury]
Enchant [Schematic: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope]
No Socket 1 None
No Socket 2 None
Socket Bonus Achieved
Quiver [Quiver of a Thousand Feathers]
Ammo None (Thor'idal, the Stars' Fury)

Last edited by Sherbet : 07/31/08 at 1:07 AM.

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Old 07/23/08, 7:18 AM   #253
Chanii
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Destromath (EU)
Originally Posted by Sherbet View Post
Ranged Weapon [Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury]
Enchant [Stabilized Eternium Scope]
No Socket 1 None
No Socket 2 None
Socket Bonus Achieved
Quiver [Quiver of a Thousand Feathers]
Ammo None (Thor'idal, the Stars' Fury)
No need for the Quiver...

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Old 07/23/08, 1:51 PM   #254
Sherbet
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Scilla
Originally Posted by Chanii View Post
No need for the Quiver...
while you're right, I couldnt find a "none" option so my assumption is either cheeky forgot to put one or he made it so the bow didnt have its passive +15% ranged haste and as such has you keep a quiver/pouch for the calculation.

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Old 07/29/08, 6:25 AM   #255
Kamaa
Free Arrows For Life
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Greymane
I started playing around with the spreadsheet some more tonight to come up with the best possible setup. This isn't the actual setup I will be using because I run with a boomkin, but I am fairly certain this is the best possible setup in the absence of Imp FF. Within the guidelines listed on the first page, I have come to the following gear selections.

Pet DPS Breakdown
Melee DPS 315.61 55.97%
Special DPS 131.71 23.36%
KC DPS 116.62 20.68%
Total Pet DPS 564.20 100.00%


Hunter DPS 2088.14
Total DPS 2652.07
Ranged Critical Hit Chance vs. Level 73 38.87%
Ranged Hit Chance vs. Level 73 99.95%

Orc
JC/Enchanter
41/20 with Imp Hunters Mark

1:1.XC Spam rotation with multi and no arcane
1:1 (Steady) for Quick Shots
1:1 Auto Priority (Steady/Steady) for DST
1:1 Auto Priority (Steady/Steady) for DST & QS

Pet is Wind Serpent with Bite > LB


Main Hand
[Shiv of Exsanguination]
[Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility]

Off Hand
[Shiv of Exsanguination]
[Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility]

Head
[Coif of Alleria]
[Item not found!]
[Relentless Earthstorm Diamond]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]

Neck
[Hard Khorium Choker]
[Stone of Blades]

Shoulders
[Gronnstalker's Spaulders]
[Might of the Scourge]
[Smooth Lionseye]
[Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst]

Back
[Cloak of Unforgivable Sin]
[Smooth Lionseye]
[Enchant Cloak - Greater Agility]

Chest
[Bladed Chaos Tunic]
[Enchant Chest - Exceptional Stats]
[Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst]
[Smooth Lionseye]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]

Wrist
[Gronnstalker's Bracers]
[Enchant Bracer - Assault]
[Crimson Sun]

Hands
[Thalassian Ranger Gauntlets]
[Formula: Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]
[Smooth Lionseye]

Waist
[Gronnstalker's Belt]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]

Legs
[Leggings of the Immortal Night]
[Nethercobra Leg Armor]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]
[Delicate Crimson Spinel]

Feet
[Gronnstalker's Boots]
[Enchant Boots - Dexterity]
[Glinting Pyrestone]

Rings
[Angelista's Revenge]
[Enchant Ring - Stats]
[Band of Ruinous Delight]
[Enchant Ring - Stats]

Trinkets
[Dragonspine Trophy] (Not replaced by the [Blackened Naaru Sliver] based on it's current modeling.

[Madness of the Betrayer]

Ranged Weapon
[Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury]
[Schematic: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope]

Some of the key factors for this build are the use of the Accurascope in order to drop the IC ring and use the badge ring instead. Of course ring enchants and JC neck/gems are a big plus. Don't forget the Naxx shoulder enchant and the single agi/hit gem to get you closer to the hit cap. Also, at some point smooth lionseye became better than wicked pyrestone again too.

I encourage everybody to find a better build should it exist, but please remember not to get too caught up in these spreadsheets. They are an entertaining exercise of the mind, but when it comes to in game reality (oxymoron right?) your raid/group composition can vastly change the gear that will be best for you.

Last edited by Kamaa : 08/01/08 at 12:30 AM.

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Old 07/31/08, 1:13 PM   #256
Sherbet
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Scilla
so I read kamaa's post, without realising it was his, and then redid mine to try and get better dps only to realise once i was done that I had copied kamaa item for item my bad man.

But I wanted to ask if you were using lurker as a target or someone with more armor? Possibly your dst procs are less? IDK but I seem to get ~250-300 more dps than you with the same set up and IDK why.

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Old 07/31/08, 5:11 PM   #257
Kamaa
Free Arrows For Life
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Greymane
Originally Posted by Sherbet View Post
so I read kamaa's post, without realising it was his, and then redid mine to try and get better dps only to realise once i was done that I had copied kamaa item for item my bad man.

But I wanted to ask if you were using lurker as a target or someone with more armor? Possibly your dst procs are less? IDK but I seem to get ~250-300 more dps than you with the same set up and IDK why.
Most likely you are using the default buffs/debuffs without adjusting them to meet the criteria listed on the first post.

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Old 08/06/08, 5:46 PM   #258
Kamaa
Free Arrows For Life
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Greymane
I made an interesting find today. Replacing DST with [Berserker's Call] boosted DPS to 2680. Thor'idal does not play well with haste?

Last edited by Kamaa : 08/06/08 at 5:55 PM.

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Old 08/23/08, 3:33 AM   #259
Moser
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Kil'Jaeden
Hey I have a quick question. Do any type of sharpening stones work for hunters?? I've been looking around alot for the answer but can't find any confirmation. And what sharpening stone is the best for max dps?

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Old 08/23/08, 4:41 PM   #260
Sarutobi
Bald Bull
 
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Toroko
Blood Elf Paladin
 
No WoW Account
Sharpening stones apply the + damage only, but not to steady shot.

Weight stones apply both the damage and the crit.

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Old 08/26/08, 3:35 PM   #261
Perzyx
Von Kaiser
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Kamaa View Post
The [Hard Khorium Choker] is indeed better. Stacking armor penetration seems the way to go. I'll still point out that the unmodeled drums of battle from being a LW would likely outweigh the benefits of other professions. With the choker in mind, enchanting would be the one to drop.

I'll update to reflect the choker, but the other items did not prove to be an upgrade, and I wasn't surprised. Armor penetration is insane.



I am wondering is the Hard Khorium Choker also best in game for a Survival hunter? It lacks a lot of agility even with a +10 spinel in it.

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Old 08/27/08, 7:12 PM   #262
Moser
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Kil'Jaeden
Hey just wondering with a wind serpent is there a point where it is ok to use lightning breath and bite?? Like at a certain crit that yields higher dps?

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Old 08/29/08, 7:10 PM   #263
Sherbet
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Scilla
Originally Posted by Perzyx View Post
I am wondering is the Hard Khorium Choker also best in game for a Survival hunter? It lacks a lot of agility even with a +10 spinel in it.
If I was survival I would be going for the Clutch of Demise over a Hard Khorium Choker. As survival your main reason for being in the raid is Expose Weakness, not your DPS. So I have to figure the 25 agility on the Clutch just HAS to out weigh the ~5 dps upgrade you get from the choker over the clutch.

that said, According to Cheeky's Spreadsheet, and assuming you're going Leatherworking for the raid dps benefits. Enchanting for the +4 stats to rings results in a higher DPS for a BM hunter at least than having the Hard Khorium Choker on over a Clutch of Demise. So Enchanting > JC for DPS it would seem.

Originally Posted by Moser View Post
Hey just wondering with a wind serpent is there a point where it is ok to use lightning breath and bite?? Like at a certain crit that yields higher dps?
Id say if you're at the point where a Windserpent is better DPS then a ravager, use both Bite and Lightning Breath.

From what Ive seen, with 30% crit (unbuffed) on both me and the other BM hunter in my guild, My pet would do about 2000 more damage than the other BM hunter's pet. This is when I had bite on auto cast and Lightning Breath going off via my macro while he only used Lightning Breath and no Bite.

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Old 09/01/08, 3:53 PM   #264
Filena
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Kilrogg
I can't find the Brutal Gladiators chain gloves. And the worksheet is password protected. Any advice?

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Old 09/01/08, 4:49 PM   #265
Kamaa
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Night Elf Druid
 
Greymane
Originally Posted by Filena View Post
I can't find the Brutal Gladiators chain gloves. And the worksheet is password protected. Any advice?
Advice: Go to the thread dedicated to the spreadsheet. This is not a help thread. This goes for all the people posting questions about gear and wind serpents too. The answers you get here will be slow or none at all. Your questions are best asked in threads dedicated to your subject matter. Hunter help thread, or hunter spreadsheet thread.

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Old 09/15/08, 5:09 PM   #266
Moser
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Kil'Jaeden
Yea I'm definately noticing a huge difference w/ bite on auto cast, my pet is destroying other hunter's pets dps, specially on entropius. Trolls ftw 37 passive crit.

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Old 11/01/08, 6:11 PM   #267
Lilyana
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Steamwheedle Cartel (EU)
Is it worth updating this for MM and 3.02?

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Old 11/03/08, 6:14 AM   #268
Midnight
Don Flamenco
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Ysera (EU)
As it is right now the spreadsheet and the hunter class are still updated too often to make this thread work reasonable. I guess I´ll wait a bit longer until the pace of changes slows down somewhat before thinking about making the effort again.

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