WotLK DPS spreadsheet - Page 105

Argg0 · 02/09/09, 12:54 AM

Titan-forged Chain Helm of Triumph is currently not in the gear tab (but I've seen it on the Gear Planner tab).

"Glyph of Improved Aspect of the Hawk" and "Glyph of True-Shot Aura", gives me an extra dps... however, it shouldn't, as I don't have Imp AotH or TSA. There is also a nonexistent glyph called "Glyph of Bestial Speed".

Is it possible to add to "Target Debuffs" "Hunter's Mark (Not you)" with the options including talented and glyphed?

On the Rotation, we never cast HM. However, I've seen a DPS increase from both the Imp HM talent and the HM Glyph.

I was wandering... how does it compares DW to 2H? Since they have different enchants. Someone under hit cap could have more benefit from DW + Dual Acc enchant?

Thayer · 02/09/09, 6:21 AM

time to update the spreadsheet again

* Kindred Spirits (Beast Mastery): This talent now grants 20% pet damage at max rank.
* Serpent’s Swiftness (Beast Mastery): This talent now grants 20% pet attack speed at max rank.

I would like to see where this puts BM now. I don't think these changes alone will catch it up with Surv.

Bloodleaf · 02/09/09, 6:54 AM

Originally Posted by Argg0

Titan-forged Chain Helm of Triumph is currently not in the gear tab (but I've seen it on the Gear Planner tab).

"Glyph of Improved Aspect of the Hawk" and "Glyph of True-Shot Aura", gives me an extra dps... however, it shouldn't, as I don't have Imp AotH or TSA. There is also a nonexistent glyph called "Glyph of Bestial Speed".

Is it possible to add to "Target Debuffs" "Hunter's Mark (Not you)" with the options including talented and glyphed?

On the Rotation, we never cast HM. However, I've seen a DPS increase from both the Imp HM talent and the HM Glyph.

I was wandering... how does it compares DW to 2H? Since they have different enchants. Someone under hit cap could have more benefit from DW + Dual Acc enchant?

Regarding the Glyphs: This may come from the same reason as Skillung/unskillung Aimes doe'nt change your DPS: Yiur are considerd intelligent enogh to know, that yo cant cast Aimed Shot, when you don't have it (and theorefore don't ue it in the Rotation)

To huntersmark rotations and HM: afaik it is considerd as always up, so you don't have to put it into your shot rotation, but it would be a Nice Idea, to optionally allow the manual cast in the shot rotation, to see how refreshing it affekcs your DPS.
But i wouldn't give this a high priority.

If you're referring to the gearplanner: ATIM it does'nt i think.
and yes: if you are low on hit, or have only non hit gear, the greatest DPS Increase should com from Sinsier revenge and dual ACC. this should be far fwar ahead of Journes end with massacre.
(exempel calculation with my values: 500 (Sinister with dual acc) vs 410 (jounes end) vs approx 440 (Black ice with massacre and low hit in general)
This too would be a nice Feature to implement.
An Option to do this, would be an Dropdownmenu in the gearplanner tab, to chose the Enchantment you would want to put on the weapon.

Shandara · 02/09/09, 7:24 AM

Update:

- Explosive Shot Rank 4 top damage now 516
- Corrected Impassive Skyflare Diamond stats
- Glyph of Trueshot Aura now only active if you actually have TSA as a talent
- 3.0.9: Kindred Spirits again 20%, Serpent's Swiftness likewise
- Added improved/glyphed Hunter's Mark as a target debuff

Added a link to the previous version (V83e) on the first page since it'll be likely to get more upcoming changes announced soon (either more 3.0.9 changes or 3.1 Ulduar PTR changes.

Shandara · 02/09/09, 11:09 AM

Re-uploaded V84, fixing a small bug with Elixir of Accuracy.

Xoran · 02/09/09, 11:13 AM

I just played with the latest version and noticed my SV dps is increasing, because time to OOM (viper to oom) went up through the roof from something like 328sec (v83e) to 2730sec (v84). This comes from a different value for Judgement of Wisdom on the buffs tab (88 vs 286 mp5).

Shandara · 02/09/09, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Xoran

I just played with the latest version and noticed my SV dps is increasing, because time to OOM (viper to oom) went up through the roof from something like 328sec (v83e) to 2730sec (v84). This comes from a different value for Judgement of Wisdom on the buffs tab (88 vs 286 mp5).

Yes, after reading this thread and some testing with a friend I have to conclude there is no internal CD for JoW and that the proc chance is very high (possibly the 50% offered in the linked thread).

I forgot to mention this change in the change log.

Seoman · 02/09/09, 12:38 PM

On the Calculations tab, under Critical Hit Damage, it seems like Relentless Earthsiege and Earthstorm Diamonds are getting a 6% buff to Crit damage, rather than the 3% on the tooltip, and that Chaotic Skyfire and Skyflare diamonds do not get any buff, rather than the 3% on the tooltip.

Shandara · 02/09/09, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seoman

On the Calculations tab, under Critical Hit Damage, it seems like Relentless Earthsiege and Earthstorm Diamonds are getting a 6% buff to Crit damage, rather than the 3% on the tooltip, and that Chaotic Skyfire and Skyflare diamonds do not get any buff, rather than the 3% on the tooltip.

The 6% damage is the effective increase in damage (an explanation is in one of the threads on this forum). I have been meaning to shuffle them around to make it easier to understand.

Both Chaotic diamonds haven't been changed yet to provide the buff (an oversight).

Seoman · 02/09/09, 1:05 PM

In the most recent download, I see the value for Serpent's Swiftness on the Calculations tab in H23 as reflecting the anticipated changes in 3.0.9, but it looks like the values on the Pet Calculations tab in cells I47 and F8 are still the current, lower values.

Dch48 · 02/09/09, 3:47 PM

I can neither import my data from 83e nor from the armory in V84

Sylvand · 02/09/09, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by Seoman

In the most recent download, I see the value for Serpent's Swiftness on the Calculations tab in H23 as reflecting the anticipated changes in 3.0.9, but it looks like the values on the Pet Calculations tab in cells I47 and F8 are still the current, lower values.

You may have clicked the wrong link. These cells are both showing a 4% (* talent points) on mine.

Shandara · 02/09/09, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dch48

I can neither import my data from 83e nor from the armory in V84

I've re-uploaded V84 with a small fix for this problem (I hope).

LordThing · 02/09/09, 5:08 PM

Also the most recent version (downloaded about 5 hours ago) seems to have a bug when it comes to pets. I swapped the pet from devilsaur to cat, re-did the talent points, but can't select rabid or call of the wild in the pet rotation. Just 4 nones appear.

Shandara · 02/09/09, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by LordThing

Also the most recent version (downloaded about 5 hours ago) seems to have a bug when it comes to pets. I swapped the pet from devilsaur to cat, re-did the talent points, but can't select rabid or call of the wild in the pet rotation. Just 4 nones appear.

Since these abilities have been taken off the GCD for pets they are averaged automatically without needing to be selected in the pet rotation.