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Old 08/12/09, 6:46 PM   #3276
Ebonleaf
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage
It seems that the gear planner isn't quite working right. In my default, I have on [Brass-Lined Boots]. When i recalc on the GPlanner, it shows my boots as the highest. When I flip to the Sentinel Scouting Greaves which I got last night, I get more dps than the [Brass-Lined Boots]. I recalc again and now those, Sentinel, are on top. I switch to the [Boots of Living Scale], getting still more dps. Recalc, now those are tops.

Either I'm doing something wrong, or it's not working as intended.

EDIT: Meant GPlanner, not GOpt

Last edited by Ebonleaf : 08/12/09 at 8:24 PM.

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Old 08/12/09, 7:45 PM   #3277
infamy
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by pabelanger View Post
I'm still running into 'Run-time error '13': Type mismatch with the latest version. I can reproduce it every time by attempting to re-load your 'gear from armory'.

Rift Stalker Mantle
Rift Stalker Hauberk
Etched Band of the Kirin Tor
Indeed. The etched band is still listed as Etched Ring.

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Old 08/12/09, 7:50 PM   #3278
Bees
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Hyjal
if you put Bestial Wrath in your rotation without also putting rapid fire in, the frequencies wont be calculable.

the offending cell is I61/BestialWrathUsed which checks Rapid Fire when it should check Bestial Wrath.

I60/TBWUsed suffers he same issue - checking Rapid Fire when it should check Bestial Wrath.

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Old 08/12/09, 8:36 PM   #3279
davejustdave
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Firetree
Originally Posted by Ebonleaf View Post
It seems that the gear planner isn't quite working right. In my default, I have on [Brass-Lined Boots]. When i recalc on the GPlanner, it shows my boots as the highest. When I flip to the Sentinel Scouting Greaves which I got last night, I get more dps than the [Brass-Lined Boots]. I recalc again and now those, Sentinel, are on top. I switch to the [Boots of Living Scale], getting still more dps. Recalc, now those are tops.

Either I'm doing something wrong, or it's not working as intended.

EDIT: Meant GPlanner, not GOpt
I found that not importing from file and starting over from scratch by re entering all my information worked for me as I was getting weird gear anomalies as well.

Last edited by davejustdave : 08/12/09 at 8:42 PM.

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Old 08/12/09, 8:40 PM   #3280
Bees
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Hyjal
Originally Posted by Shandara View Post
If I forgot anything that was PM'ed to me or posted in this thread, please tell me again. Also let me know if you still have problems importing things from the Armory.
I've updated my bug list to match 91b: Rawr.Hunter Module Status & Bugs

15 possible issues outstanding, though some maybe misunderstandings on my part

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Old 08/12/09, 10:46 PM   #3281
Kurianna
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Durotan
I used the new update, and have had no major issues. I have come across one thing that I find strange though. When recalculating dps on the gear planner, it doesn't seem to redo the rotation test. Basically, here is how it's working: I start with clean, and do an optimization using top three in slot. It shows all 5 tier items as best. I went to the gear tab, and changed to the Emblem helm (just to check), and the dps went down, until I clicked to retest rotation. It went higher than the optimized set. I then went to gear planner and selected recalcuate dps. This cause the Tier helm to be shown as best in slot again. I went back to the gear tab and selected it. My dps did go up, but as soon as I click retest rotation on the shot rotation tab, it goes back down to a level below the Emblem helm.

Does the recalculate dps macro actually retest the rotation? And does the optimizer retest the rotation? I did check my settings to make sure it was set to use rotation test and to retest each change, so I thought this would happen.

I did not have leather, pvp, hard mode or heroic selected.

By the way, the regemmer seems to be spot on as far as I can tell

Edit: One other small thing. The optimizer really likes the new 5 man trinket, but Greatness is actually higher when equipped. I have no idea why this happend (SV talented).

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Old 08/12/09, 11:12 PM   #3282
Zer0Cool
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Ebonleaf View Post
It seems that the gear planner isn't quite working right. In my default, I have on [Brass-Lined Boots]. When i recalc on the GPlanner, it shows my boots as the highest. When I flip to the Sentinel Scouting Greaves which I got last night, I get more dps than the [Brass-Lined Boots]. I recalc again and now those, Sentinel, are on top. I switch to the [Boots of Living Scale], getting still more dps. Recalc, now those are tops.

Either I'm doing something wrong, or it's not working as intended.

EDIT: Meant GPlanner, not GOpt

I belive I have the same problem. With the new version after I Recalculate DPS all my gear is now BiS (almost all of it..) Brass-lined Botts are BiS, Boots of the renewed Flight are #3 in line. when I change to Boots of the renewed Flight, and recalculate, Boots of the renewed Flightare now BiS... I use "import gear from the armory" to import my gear.

Last edited by Zer0Cool : 08/12/09 at 11:48 PM.

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Old 08/13/09, 4:15 AM   #3283
Norest
Glass Joe
 
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Draenei Hunter
 
Tichondrius
The Spreadsheet doesn't recognise "15stam and minor speed increase" enchant on boots.

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Old 08/13/09, 4:29 AM   #3284
Riemu
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Hunter
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Originally Posted by Zer0Cool View Post
I belive I have the same problem. With the new version after I Recalculate DPS all my gear is now BiS (almost all of it..) Brass-lined Botts are BiS, Boots of the renewed Flight are #3 in line. when I change to Boots of the renewed Flight, and recalculate, Boots of the renewed Flightare now BiS... I use "import gear from the armory" to import my gear.
Same here Guys!

I have downloaded the spreadsheet 3 times now (just to be sure!) and I'm still running into the same Problems. I tried importing my Gear and Settings from Previous Versions, from the Armory and even hand-entered everything myself. Still the same issue. I have rechecked every hand-entered entry like a zillion times, made sure every gearitem/enchant/gem is correct, the talents + glyphs are correct, shot rotation is correct, pet is correct, raid buffs are correct.

After I have entered all my Settings / Gear and I hit the "Recalculate DPS" in the Gear Tab, the Tool calculates for like 5 Minuten and after it's finished, I end up having 90% BiS Gear. For example it shows the new T9 Hardmode Head significantly lower in dps than my current T8.5 Head - which is, simply put, not damn possible.

I am running my typical pre-patch 560 ARP + Runestone Marksman Spec without Arcane Shot. Anybody got an idea what that might be?

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Old 08/13/09, 5:41 AM   #3285
Xoran
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Proudmoore (EU)
One thing to remember is that the gear planer is using the gems listed on the settings tab. This leads to wrong values when still using old gems in the current gear and new epic gems in the settings as it adds the difference in gems to the gear.

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Old 08/13/09, 6:04 AM   #3286
atuin
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
heroic colliseum 5 drops have old (pre-patch) stats
their stats, item lvl has been upgraded to ilvl219
spreadsheet still have old values from ptr

True-aim Long Rifle - they also upgraded damage to 147.4 but its not yet showing in armory, ingame tooltip shows correct value

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Old 08/13/09, 6:29 AM   #3287
wurmfood
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Farstriders
Originally Posted by Riemu View Post
After I have entered all my Settings / Gear and I hit the "Recalculate DPS" in the Gear Tab, the Tool calculates for like 5 Minuten and after it's finished, I end up having 90% BiS Gear. For example it shows the new T9 Hardmode Head significantly lower in dps than my current T8.5 Head - which is, simply put, not damn possible.?
Also keep in mind that those pieces may be a downgrade from your current setup but offer more DPS overall if combined with other pieces. Check for things like hit rating (or, in your case, ArPen values) that may mean a loss with that piece, but a gain if combined with others.

One way to test this is to simply put on some of those pieces in the gear manager, then check to see what the new upgrades are for you. Another is to add a couple pieces you think are upgrades to the optimizer for each slot and let the sheet figure out what could work best. You may find a new combo of gear that, together, provides more DPS than what you have.

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Old 08/13/09, 8:53 AM   #3288
thiswas
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Hyjal
Rings

On the rings it keeps saying it can't find the etched band of the kirin tor. You have this listed as the etched ring where it is the etched band. I have been using what you have listed gives the stats tha the etched band has.

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Old 08/13/09, 9:07 AM   #3289
Eijhune
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
The Venture Co (EU)
DPS-values in the 89g & 91b

I get very different DPS-values in the Gear Planner for my gear in 91b compared to the values in 89g.
Ex:Conqueror's Scourgestalker Tunic 347,35 (91b) > 454,99 (89g).
And the Gear Planner gives strange results.
What can be wrong??

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Old 08/13/09, 10:04 AM   #3290
Izuul
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Garona
I've seen a couple of people say that the internal cooldown on Banner of Victory is actually 50 seconds, and not the usual 45.

I have no way of testing it myself as I'm now around 0/30 trying to get the thing. Havn't seen it drop once.

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Old 08/13/09, 11:54 AM   #3291
Ferlog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Shadowsong
Small Typo In New Cloak

Hey Shandara,

It's actually Drape of the Untamed Predator not Cloak of.

Small item, but thanks for your work and welcome back!

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Old 08/13/09, 12:04 PM   #3292
Ferlog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Shadowsong
Hello Eijhune,
Some things you may want to consider if your not a JCer, is to set use Dragon Eye's to no and then set the do not re-gem for gear planner to "yes". It seems this more accurately calculates the dps for me.

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Old 08/13/09, 12:09 PM   #3293
Nandei
Von Kaiser
 
Nandei's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Moonglade (EU)
Originally Posted by Ferlog View Post
Hey Shandara,

It's actually Drape of the Untamed Predator not Cloak of.

Small item, but thanks for your work and welcome back!
Cloak of Untamed Predator is the Horde version of the item.

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Old 08/13/09, 12:09 PM   #3294
Ufthak
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Dragonblight (EU)
For all those correcting the names of items such as Drape of the Untamed Predator please be aware that most of the drops in the Coliseaum actually have two names, one for Horde and one for Allience. Cloak is the Horde one and correct, Drape is the Allience one.

I don't mean to pick on Ferlog but his is the example I can see at the minute.

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Old 08/13/09, 12:30 PM   #3295
Whitefyst
King Hippo
 
Orc Hunter
 
Draenor
Originally Posted by Ufthak View Post
For all those correcting the names of items such as Drape of the Untamed Predator please be aware that most of the drops in the Coliseaum actually have two names, one for Horde and one for Allience. Cloak is the Horde one and correct, Drape is the Allience one.

I don't mean to pick on Ferlog but his is the example I can see at the minute.
Also note that on the gear planner where you chose which item to include are check boxes for Horde or Alliance gear. Make sure you have the right one checked for your faction.

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Old 08/13/09, 2:23 PM   #3296
Ufthak
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Dragonblight (EU)
Originally Posted by Whitefyst View Post
Also note that on the gear planner where you chose which item to include are check boxes for Horde or Alliance gear. Make sure you have the right one checked for your faction.
As a follow on from that, we already have to choose our race, perhaps have the faction tickbox linked to that?

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Old 08/13/09, 2:58 PM   #3297
Bikiniwax
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Laughing Skull
I am also getting very weird values in 91b as opposed to 91a.


7/57/7
Draenei aura on both myself and pet
Set Hunter's Mark in buffs tab to none (I have 3/3 non-glyphed HM)
150 latency
Mammoth Cutters

T8 Valourous Scourgestalker head > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 21.45
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker hands > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 32.84
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker legs > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 23.84
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker chest > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 21.09
Slime Stream bands > frost-bound Chain Bracers by a delta of 30.08
Wraithstone > Runestone by a delta of 3.84

These are some very weird findings. The first time I used an import from 91a so I ran it again a second time with no import and a fresh spreadsheet and got the same findings.

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Old 08/13/09, 3:18 PM   #3298
Ferlog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Shadowsong
Originally Posted by Ufthak View Post
For all those correcting the names of items such as Drape of the Untamed Predator please be aware that most of the drops in the Coliseaum actually have two names, one for Horde and one for Allience. Cloak is the Horde one and correct, Drape is the Allience one.

I don't mean to pick on Ferlog but his is the example I can see at the minute.
The item is still missing from the spreadsheet, it gives an unknown item error for the alliance version of the cloak. Obviously using the custom item works fine (as well as selecting the horde version), was just trying to provide some helpful information. So I would think both versions would need to be added to the spreadsheet. (Hence why these crop up).

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Old 08/13/09, 3:31 PM   #3299
Bees
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Hyjal
Probable bug in the rotation test macro at line 278:

AutoShotSpeed = AutoShotSpeed * (1 / Worksheets("Calculations").Range("StaticHaste").value)
you apply this code in a 10x loop, so autoshot speed ends up being:

AutoShotSpeed * 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste
* 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste
* 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste * 1/StaticHaste
so the more different shots you have in your rotation, the faster your autoshots will be

the fix is to apply the haste outside the shot setup loop

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Old 08/13/09, 3:50 PM   #3300
Whitefyst
King Hippo
 
Orc Hunter
 
Draenor
Originally Posted by Bikiniwax View Post
I am also getting very weird values in 91b as opposed to 91a.

T8 Valourous Scourgestalker head > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 21.45
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker hands > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 32.84
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker legs > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 23.84
T8 Valourous Scourgestalker chest > T8.5 Conq by a delta of 21.09
Slime Stream bands > frost-bound Chain Bracers by a delta of 30.08
Wraithstone > Runestone by a delta of 3.84

These are some very weird findings. The first time I used an import from 91a so I ran it again a second time with no import and a fresh spreadsheet and got the same findings.
I am not getting these same findings myself. 91b seems to be working fine with me when I have things set up correctly. Hard to say what the problem is without seeing your actual spreadsheet, but my guess is it is a settings problem. Some things to check:

- Make sure all the gem settings are consistent with how you gem. From personal experience, the one that got me was the gem for metagem requirements. Since I do not use that type of gem usually due to there being at least one blue and yellow gem slot for which I get a good socket bonus, I changed it and ended up with weird results like yours.

- Make sure your rotation is set up correctly. Different rotations will favor different gear.

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