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Old 04/17/09, 11:10 AM   #2086
GwolfGarona
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Garona
should the pyro-rocket be added to the shot rotation?

It has a 45sec CD.
Not on GCD, but its own Burst GCD (some trinkets may have been put on this?)

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Old 04/17/09, 12:54 PM   #2087
cyrex
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Cho'gall
There appears to be an issue with the Load Gear from Armory
When I try it with my character:

Cymoro
US - Eldre'Thalas

It complains that the neck piece, Favor of the Dragon Queen, is an invalid Shoulder slot item.
The proper shoulder slot item is the Iron-studded Mantle.
Possibly the armory is messed up, but should it not just skip that slot if there is no data, rather than throw an error message about the slot above it?

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Old 04/17/09, 3:39 PM   #2088
callans
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Ravenholdt (EU)
The pre 3.1 spreadsheet said that Forsted androit handguards was a 70dps increase but the PTR one says its only 14,83 ( this increase is calculated from the T7,5 gloves) whats up with that difference?

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Old 04/17/09, 4:08 PM   #2089
Nooska
King Hippo
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by callans View Post
The pre 3.1 spreadsheet said that Forsted androit handguards was a 70dps increase but the PTR one says its only 14,83 ( this increase is calculated from the T7,5 gloves) whats up with that difference?
First; did you switch any gear or change your spec?
Second; some mechanics changed in 3.1 - specifically mana regen, and thus intellect with a bigger mana pool became worth more (more dps before viper, more mana regen from teh % of mana regen talents). Frosted have no int (because they are leather) and as such they don't get the benfit that the t7.5 gloves are getting - its not that you actually do more, but there is less benefit from switching

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Old 04/17/09, 5:00 PM   #2090
Dralmoo
Don Flamenco
 
Orc Hunter
 
Shadowmoon
There seems to be a bug with hit being calculated, all the time. Noticed it on my own char, then reopened the default. When I open the sheet (default), Rezdan has 100.23% hit chance and is 7 over the cap with only 237 hit rating, which is obviously incorrect.

EDIT: Found the problem, Draeni racial is turned in the buff profile that the sheet comes with..... so Horde players, make sure to turn it off.

EDIT 2: I also get an error importing my char from the armory, "Slime Stream Bands is not a support Hands please use Custom Gear
for it". I am using them as bracers. Looks like this is because the gloves from Auriaya don't show up in armory yet.

Last edited by Dralmoo : 04/17/09 at 5:19 PM.

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Old 04/17/09, 5:35 PM   #2091
Obellix
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Draenei Hunter
 
Greymane
Originally Posted by Tharia View Post
Were you Marksman and had Rapid Recuperation? There seems to be a bug that gives the Pet unlimited focus when you spec RR, so the points in GftT do nothing (2/2 RR / 0/2 GftT gives higher pet dps than 2/2 GftT / 0/2 RR, but only 1-2 dps). If you get rid of RR, GftT is back to normal.
Yes, i was using a 7-57-7 build. As soon as you have one point in RR, any points you put in GftT don't change anything.

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Old 04/17/09, 6:28 PM   #2092
Shandara
Great Tiger
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
Originally Posted by Dralmoo View Post
There seems to be a bug with hit being calculated, all the time. Noticed it on my own char, then reopened the default. When I open the sheet (default), Rezdan has 100.23% hit chance and is 7 over the cap with only 237 hit rating, which is obviously incorrect.

EDIT: Found the problem, Draeni racial is turned in the buff profile that the sheet comes with..... so Horde players, make sure to turn it off.

EDIT 2: I also get an error importing my char from the armory, "Slime Stream Bands is not a support Hands please use Custom Gear
for it". I am using them as bracers. Looks like this is because the gloves from Auriaya don't show up in armory yet.
The Armory is iffy at the moment and any items that weren't discovered on the PTR are probably causing problems. When I have some more time after the weekend I'll see about checking wowhead again for changes to any items and new additions (in the meantime PM me or post here about missing items).


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Old 04/17/09, 11:17 PM   #2093
Ferrari_13
Von Kaiser
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Shattered Hand
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> 116% Armor Pen only giving 66%!?!?!?!

This is an interesting post GC made about Armp (the actual calculations). I am trying to check if it matches the spreadsheet values. I am sure other people are back checking it as well.

I'm just posting this in case some people missed it.

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Old 04/18/09, 3:00 AM   #2094
alienangel
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Draenei Hunter
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by Ferrari_13 View Post
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> 116% Armor Pen only giving 66%!?!?!?!

This is an interesting post GC made about Armp (the actual calculations). I am trying to check if it matches the spreadsheet values. I am sure other people are back checking it as well.

I'm just posting this in case some people missed it.
Ugh. So no matter how much ArP we stack, we'll never be at 100% reduction of total armor again :S

Well I suppose it depends on how the "other effects" like sunders he didn't provide examples of stack, but it still looks unlikely.

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Old 04/18/09, 8:57 AM   #2095
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
Don't they just reduce the reduceable armor? Meaning after the ArP calculation for what we can reduce with ArP then we take off the 24% from abilities and only then do we reduce the remaining armor by the ArP percentage.

I wonder where the Warriors' Battle Stance sets in... Luckily I'm not a Warrior, but it looks like ArP remains pretty poor.

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Old 04/18/09, 9:14 AM   #2096
exho
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Ysondre (EU)
I belive the [Shoulders of Misfortune] are still missing from the latest version of the spreadsheet. These dropped from trash for us last night, that's why I'm reporting.

Thanks and please keep up the wonderful work.

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Old 04/18/09, 9:54 AM   #2097
Shandara
Great Tiger
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
Update:
- Changed ArP according to GC's post
- Added more Ulduar gear
- Fixed bug with Rapid Recuperation making pet abilities cost -ve focus
About the only thing I'm sure is not up to date is Black Arrow, I think. Once I have some more time I'll test it in-game again (to verify Ravenfire's formula) and add it in.


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Old 04/18/09, 11:04 AM   #2098
FroggyWuLong
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Black Dragonflight
Can't change my name on the spreadsheet or the server. What option am I missing?

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Old 04/18/09, 11:10 AM   #2099
Ferrari_13
Von Kaiser
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Shattered Hand
Originally Posted by FroggyWuLong View Post
Can't change my name on the spreadsheet or the server. What option am I missing?
If you are running Excel 07 you have to enable spreed sheet options.

Normally when you open the file there will be this Security warning (underneath the Toolbars and above the formula cell) click on the "options" button and select "enable this content"

Last edited by Ferrari_13 : 04/18/09 at 11:19 AM.

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Old 04/18/09, 11:30 AM   #2100
FroggyWuLong
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Black Dragonflight
did that. still won't let me change name or server, all the other options are good to go.

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