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Old 10/05/09, 4:52 PM   #3661
Shandara
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Azjol-Nerub (EU)
Originally Posted by Aker View Post
There is also the issue of having an "illegal" build which would have to be disallowed somehow.
The notification of an illegal build is purely a visual one in the sheet. Nothing prevents you from ordering the talents as you want.


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Old 10/05/09, 5:15 PM   #3662
Aker
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Night Elf Druid
 
Exodar
Originally Posted by Shandara View Post
The notification of an illegal build is purely a visual one in the sheet. Nothing prevents you from ordering the talents as you want.
Understood. I meant more along the lines of a future iterative "optimal talent calculator". That would most likely result in an illegal talent build. For example, if you were hit capped solely from gear without gems and without any talent points in FA, and another hunter had 3/3 IHM, then if there was a "optimal talent calculator" it would likely show a build that is "illegal".

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Old 10/05/09, 5:19 PM   #3663
dghunter
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Malfurion
Originally Posted by lgrecul View Post
you have to push recalculate DPS after you click heroic
I had tried that in Windows Explorer and it errored everytime. Changed to Firefox and it worked. Thanks

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Old 10/06/09, 2:38 PM   #3664
Gemfire
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Draenei Hunter
 
Thunderlord
I apologize if this has been brought up but I didn't see it while skimming over. I was going through the spreadsheet and I realized that so far I only have one piece of H gear (Collar of ceaseless torment). It's showing that pretty much everything (Including the non-heroic version) is better than it. While I know that if I include heroic raids it'd be higher...I don't forsee myself getting much in the way of heroic gear for awhile and would prefer to see it in relation to the non-heroic pieces without seeing ALL of the heroic pieces. Is there a way to get around this?

Edit: I recalculated back down to non-heroic from heroic and now its doing what I wanted it to.

Last edited by Gemfire : 10/06/09 at 3:00 PM.

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Old 10/07/09, 1:35 AM   #3665
Obstoforius
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Saurfang
I have an addition I would like to suggest be included in the spreadsheet. Inlude Arcane Torrent Blood Elf racial in shot rotation tab or in the settings like the use of a mana pot. Arcane Torrent - Spell - World of Warcraft

Last edited by Obstoforius : 10/08/09 at 8:46 AM.

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Old 10/07/09, 2:02 PM   #3666
Zanazee
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Lothar
Thanks so much for such a wonderful spreadsheet. I've been using it for quite a while now.

I have a question, when I clear the 25-man checkbox in the Gear Planner tab, several items that are purchasable with Emblems disappear also (for example, the Leggings of the Tireless Sentry). Am I doing something wrong, or have Emblem of X items not yet been updated to not be dependent on raid types (since we can get the emblems from dungeons now)?

Thanks

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Old 10/08/09, 3:13 AM   #3667
Argg0
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Hunter
 
Warsong
[Knightbane Carapace] is not shown on the spreadsheet (both Alliance and Horde versions).

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Old 10/08/09, 12:01 PM   #3668
Thetalisker
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Hellfire (EU)
First of all my compliments to you, Shandara, for this excellent spreadsheet!

I think I may have found a little snag, though. Of course hit rating is very much valued if you're not hit capped, but it seems like being over the hit cap means that gear with +hit is downrated more than it should be.

After I equipped [Sparkling Onyxia Tooth Pendant] instead of [Broach of the Wailing Night], I found that the latter was displayed as more beneficial than the first. When switching the two, it was the other way round.

If I manually adjust my hit rating so 'Needed to cap Hit' is 0, the Onyxia Pendant is listed as most beneficial again, and no matter what my hit rating is, 'Hunter hit + 1' is always the most valued stat. I suspect this value needs to be changed to 0 once you're capped.

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Old 10/08/09, 12:06 PM   #3669
Esoth
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Pandaren Hunter
 
Whisperwind
Some napkin math on Culling the Herd:
Looking at something around 20% crit rate for non-BM hunters on focus dumps, with a frequency of 1.25 (pet GCD). So uptime would be something like 1-(.8^(10/1.25))~=83% uptime. So about a 2.5% DPS increase.

Alts: http://www.esoth.com/wow/my-characters
Ion: Along with asking why we fight, and learning that our true enemy is war itself, a major theme of the Mists of Pandaria has been killing turtles
Hunter spreadsheet: http://www.esoth.com/files/mop/at_download/file

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Old 10/08/09, 3:31 PM   #3670
Drudkh
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Shattered Hand (EU)
I can't see the items from heroic mode ToC in the gearplanner neither can I use them to adjust my gear, anyone else also got this problem?

I downloaded the latest version.

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Old 10/08/09, 5:20 PM   #3671
Screechbythebell
Don Flamenco
 
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Tichondrius
Originally Posted by Drudkh View Post
I can't see the items from heroic mode ToC in the gearplanner neither can I use them to adjust my gear, anyone else also got this problem?

I downloaded the latest version.
Check the "Hard Modes" and "Heroic Raids" box in the upper left.

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Old 10/08/09, 6:50 PM   #3672
Drudkh
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Shattered Hand (EU)
Originally Posted by Screechbythebell View Post
Check the "Hard Modes" and "Heroic Raids" box in the upper left.
Yes I did, I forgot to tell that in my first post, my bad.

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Old 10/09/09, 2:33 PM   #3673
Bikiniwax
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Laughing Skull
Originally Posted by Drudkh View Post
Yes I did, I forgot to tell that in my first post, my bad.
Did you then hit the Recalculate DPS button after?

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Old 10/09/09, 7:38 PM   #3674
Flouyd
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Draenei Hunter
 
Mannoroth (EU)
Just a minor display bug: I think on Calculations H163 it should read "=H151*H142*H141".

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Old 10/09/09, 11:35 PM   #3675
Drudkh
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Shattered Hand (EU)
Originally Posted by Bikiniwax View Post
Did you then hit the Recalculate DPS button after?
It is working great now, thank you.

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