WotLK DPS spreadsheet - Page 54

Shandara · 12/02/08, 4:12 PM

Originally Posted by Thelastdeadmouse

When trying to change the name of a saved spec on the Talents tab, it gives a pop up error.

Working as intended, bug, or user error?

Use the list on the Overview tab, you can change those values.

Chul · 12/02/08, 5:57 PM

A few comments:

On the gear planner, if you just have WotLK selected, you get two 5-man necks showing up
I would like to request the ability to turn off 25-man (or heroic) loot for those who are just doing the 10-man route
Trinket Grim Toll only drops in 25-man Naxx not 10-man Naxx
There are some items, like Loatheb's Shadow, that drop in both 10man and 25man instances. Your spreadsheet doesn't handle that at the moment. Perhaps just have the location as 'Naxxramas' so it's clear it'll drop from either.

Nyutu · 12/02/08, 6:36 PM

Perhaps i am being bling. But is there any way rapid recuperation is taken into account?

Because I dont see any dps increase on it, neither less time in viper.

Sorry if this is obvious

sihyunie · 12/02/08, 7:31 PM

Am I blind??
I can't seem to find how to fix hit at 100%.

ishootthings · 12/02/08, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by sihyunie

Am I blind??
I can't seem to find how to fix hit at 100%.

gear planner page

top right hand corner

Osse · 12/02/08, 9:24 PM

It seems that with 5 minute fight duration glyph of AotH is performing way better than glyph of serpent sting.

I've always wondered if AotB during BW's is higher dps than full time AotD. Only problem is that there's no way to tell as spreadsheet doesn't have such function so I'm wondering how hard would it be to make an option which would use AotB during BW's and AotD when not? Aspects are off GCD now so that won't cause any extra complexity.

This is with 50/21 and scorpid btw.

Jerem · 12/03/08, 5:40 AM

And also Shandara, if you just happen to find the time to do so, would you mind unlocking the cells for Hand Adjust of pet dmg, pet crit% and pet AP?
I've always kept my T0,5 gloves, 3-piece AQ20 set, and Leggings of the Beast Mastery (for stupid experiments and sentimentality, mainly), and I don't think your items database still got them in.
Thanks.

sovichel · 12/03/08, 12:09 PM

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet (i read back about 5 pages and did not see it), but [Grotesque Handgrips] do not have a socket or socket bonus in the spread sheet.

Scrith · 12/03/08, 5:00 PM

Misc. comments on the 78e version:

- the +200 health chest enchant is missing (I know, some are wondering why a Hunter would have this...I only have it because a friend who is leveling up enchanting put it on me).

- not all the new food types are there (e.g. the +30/+40 critical strike food made from worm meat).

- shouldn't there be an Expertise in the Attribute part of the Overview tab, so we can see how much we gain from it, DPS-wise?

- it would be nice to toggle 25-man raid gear on/off in the Gear Planner section

- when using the Gear Planner, it isn't taking into account the gems when recommending upgrades. For example, in one of my profiles it says the Drake-Mounted Crossbow does about 9 more dps than the Nesingwary 4000. But when I remove the Nesingwary 4000 (which has a crit/agi gem in it) and replace it with the Drake-Mounted Crossbow, the DPS is the same (because, apparently, the gem that was in the Nesingwary 4000 is now gone becasue the Drake-Mounted Crossbow does not have any gems slots).

Samba · 12/03/08, 5:05 PM

Suggestion:

With all the time Ive spent in the spreadsheet theres really only 1 thing I feel it's missing - a comparison between dual wielding and equipping a 2-hander.

If there is some way to show all 2 handed upgrades when youre dual wielding and all dual wield upgrades when you have a 2 hander equipped that would be infinitely helpful.

As is when we have 2 1-handers equipped 2-hand dps is shown as 0, so basically it just shows you the top 10 2 handed weapons in game with no regards to the 2 weapons you have equipped, and vice versa.

not sure if this is possible but if it is, please add it if you can.

Thanks!

Shandara · 12/03/08, 5:11 PM

Originally Posted by Scrith

Misc. comments on the 78e version:

- the +200 health chest enchant is missing (I know, some are wondering why a Hunter would have this...I only have it because a friend who is leveling up enchanting put it on me).

- not all the new food types are there (e.g. the +30/+40 critical strike food made from worm meat).

- shouldn't there be an Expertise in the Attribute part of the Overview tab, so we can see how much we gain from it, DPS-wise?

- it would be nice to toggle 25-man raid gear on/off in the Gear Planner section

- when using the Gear Planner, it isn't taking into account the gems when recommending upgrades. For example, in one of my profiles it says the Drake-Mounted Crossbow does about 9 more dps than the Nesingwary 4000. But when I remove the Nesingwary 4000 (which has a crit/agi gem in it) and replace it with the Drake-Mounted Crossbow, the DPS is the same (because, apparently, the gem that was in the Nesingwary 4000 is now gone becasue the Drake-Mounted Crossbow does not have any gems slots).

Expertise does not do amything for hunters unfortunately.

As for the Gear Planner, it does account for gems but it uses the default gems set on the Settings Tab. These may not be the ideal gems for an item though. You can customise them with the custom values fields next to them.

A 10/25-man toggle is in the works for the next version.

Samba · 12/03/08, 5:39 PM

Expertise does not for hunters unfortunately.

hmm I was under the impression the hunter expertise (for the time being) transferred to pet expertise. Not that there is a plethora of hunter mail out there with expertise on it, but some items are viable. Take Hemorrhaging Circle for instance.

sihyunie · 12/03/08, 6:58 PM

There are some tests done that show that expertise doesn't transfer to the pet.
While they are not conclusive (none of them were at expertise cap and showed pet still being dodged/parried), they have large enough sample to be pretty convincing.
You can find some of those tests in hit rating post, where they discuss whether FA talent transfers to the pet.

As for the gems and gear planner, I'm under the impression that it doesn't account for the gem slot.
My gear planner shows that Pack-Ice Striders is about 40dps higher than Boots of the Great Construct.
However, when I swap in Boots of the Great Construct, I gain about 36dps.
(With Pack-Ice Striders, I'm at 6160.73, with Boots of the Great Construct, socketed by default gem, I'm at 6196.85, and with Boots of the Great Construct not socketed, I'm at 6102.04.)

Elendril · 12/03/08, 7:05 PM

Do you have a meta that's on or off based on that socket?

bluetang · 12/03/08, 8:00 PM

Alright, I know this has been asked before (probably by me a year ago) but here goes...

My absolutely mediocre gear shows up as approximately 2500 dps in the spreadsheet yet I have been getting consistent dps in the 1500-1600 (10 man raid buffed) range. Is this due to the mobs armor or my ineptitude? I generally do steady spam and pop rapid/bestial wrath when they are up. I will admit that my cat only got level 80 today and I haevn't raided with it yet but that isn't going to make up the 1k difference...

(And yes, I am aware that my gear needs enchants)