WotLK DPS spreadsheet - Page 55

Chul · 12/03/08, 9:34 PM

Originally Posted by bluetang

Alright, I know this has been asked before (probably by me a year ago) but here goes...

My absolutely mediocre gear shows up as approximately 2500 dps in the spreadsheet yet I have been getting consistent dps in the 1500-1600 (10 man raid buffed) range. Is this due to the mobs armor or my ineptitude? I generally do steady spam and pop rapid/bestial wrath when they are up. I will admit that my cat only got level 80 today and I haevn't raided with it yet but that isn't going to make up the 1k difference...

Well, the difference between a non-buffed hunter and a fully buffed (and debuffed target) hunter is ~2000-2500dps, so since you said 10-man raiding, I'd check that you, your pet and the boss are getting all the buffs/debuffs the spreadsheet thinks you're getting.

Lohegrin · 12/04/08, 8:12 AM

Valorous Cryptstalker Legguards adds no socket bonus even if the colors match.

Æthien · 12/04/08, 8:15 AM

Originally Posted by Samba

hmm I was under the impression the hunter expertise (for the time being) transferred to pet expertise. Not that there is a plethora of hunter mail out there with expertise on it, but some items are viable. Take Hemorrhaging Circle for instance.

I have that ring, and I bought a cheap ass leather blue with expertise, it had no effect on my pets dodged and parried attacks.

Terp · 12/04/08, 11:06 AM

The Sons Exalted Greater Inscription of the Axe isn't supported in the spreadsheet.

Also are you planning on adjusting the hit rating to 8%? If you are leery about it, maybe an option in settings? It's really hard to use the spreadsheet as is.

Samba · 12/04/08, 12:32 PM

Titanium Weapon Chains

These were added as a supported enchant, however, the +28 hit was not added. Spreadsheet is calculating my +hit to be 179 when it should in fact be 235.

*edit* One more question: I picked up my 2nd piece of T7 gear last night to get the 5% damage bonus, loaded this into the sheet and checked the results. I then changed my gloves and my shoulders to get the 4 piece bonus and checked the results. I am confused by what i saw. A 20ish dps decrease?

I know that my current shoulders are amazing, Beast-tamer's Shoulders, but I figured that the amount of time I would save myself from Viper would make up the difference. Can you point me to the calculation for time spent in viper? Is the spreadsheet considering aspect changes? Better yet... does the gear planner think ahead and take set bonuses into consideration when ranking upgrades/downgrades?

Elendril · 12/04/08, 1:07 PM

When I try to load my gear from armor, I get "Run Time error 91 - Object variable or With block variable not set"

Samba · 12/04/08, 1:12 PM

Originally Posted by Elendril

When I try to load my gear from armor, I get "Run Time error 91 - Object variable or With block variable not set"

Try again... usually that error is caused by the armory, not the spreadsheet.

Elendril · 12/04/08, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by Samba

Try again... usually that error is caused by the armory, not the spreadsheet.

I've gotten the error about 10 times now across several days of trying :-P

Æthien · 12/04/08, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by Osse

It seems that with 5 minute fight duration glyph of AotH is performing way better than glyph of serpent sting.

I've always wondered if AotB during BW's is higher dps than full time AotD. Only problem is that there's no way to tell as spreadsheet doesn't have such function so I'm wondering how hard would it be to make an option which would use AotB during BW's and AotD when not? Aspects are off GCD now so that won't cause any extra complexity.

This is with 50/21 and scorpid btw.

I second this, I too want to know what using AotB during tBW actually does.

evlchicken · 12/04/08, 1:49 PM

Originally Posted by Terp

The Sons Exalted Greater Inscription of the Axe isn't supported in the spreadsheet.

It only has problems being imported from the armory. After the error pops up, just hit ok and then click the drop down menu on your shoulder enchant. It will be there, and it works. This is still a bug though.

Iru · 12/04/08, 1:53 PM

Working with the buff tab seriously for the first time - i usually evaluate everything unbuffed - I discovered a rather serious error with version 78e: the pally buff items on this tab are all still TBC based.

Imp might is now 2 levels: 12% & 25%.
G BoK is no longer a flat 10%. It's 2% base with four levels of Imp BoK that give you 4%, 6%, 8%, 10%.
There is no provision for Swift retribution, which gives 1% haste increase.

Also, is Judgement of Wisdom in the target debuffs supposed to be the same as the Judgement of the Wise ret pally talent?

EDIT: I also forgot to mention that there's no provision for Fel Intelligence, the felhunter buff.

Thelastdeadmouse · 12/04/08, 4:40 PM

I'm sure you've been keeping on eye on the thread on this in these forums, but just in case I'll mention that it appears that now the hit cap for hunters and their pets is only 8% instead of the traditional 9%. There are a few people who have gone full raids with 8% hit and no points in Focused Aim without a miss, and earlier today I tested on a raid boss targeting dummy for 2565 Auto Shots, 294 Steady Shots, 1689 pet melee attacks and 1558 pet special attacks with zero misses on a boss dummy with 8.05% hit and no points in focused aim.

dragoonvengance · 12/04/08, 5:12 PM

Going to test that 8% hit comment that was just made to confirm... that's very interesting and messes up my gear choice....

Chul · 12/04/08, 5:58 PM

The way you calculate the AP from Careful Aim is wrong. The formula you use is 33% of int per talent point which means you're using 99% of int with 3/3 CA, but it should be 100% with 3/3.

Sevani · 12/04/08, 6:06 PM

I tested the aspect switch extensively a few nights ago. Unfortunately I didnt save my recounts. When I just let my pet or scorpid attack with no influence from me, and I popped BW and switched aspects, both pets did upwards of 200-300 more dps with AotB on over AotD. Ill do the test again tonight and post the results.