WotLK DPS spreadsheet - Page 65

ScarySniper · 12/16/08, 4:33 AM

I´d like to test a 0/53/18 specc with imp AS but it seams that there are no L´n´L proccs with the refreshed serpsting. (testet both versions 79 and 80)

snail · 12/16/08, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cranch

Per the calculations page, Grim Toll averages out to around 100 ArP. You can put in to the hand-adjust fields on the Gear page the same values as that trinket (83 hit, 100 ArP) and get the same results as putting the actual trinket in. So there's nothing broken with the trinket implementation.

It is true that the gear planner undervalues Grim Toll by about 21 dps for some reason but the gear planner is just a guide -- you should always insert your gear into the Gear page for the best estimation of actual dps.

I think the issue with grim toll being rated so low in some situations is the massive amount of hit on it.
I always assumed that the gear in the planner was rated based on dps change if the item in question replaced what was currently equipped.
The problem with Grim Toll, to my un-excel-expert eyes is that when the value of the trinket is being calculated it is done so based on your total hit, not on what your %hit would be without the +83 hit on the trinket. Check the contribution of the trinket when you are 80 hit below cap vs when you are at the cap (i.e. with and without the trinket). Make sure that you hit the "calc attributes" button between comparisons so that +hit is given the right contribution amount.

Faerdael · 12/16/08, 11:29 AM

Very minor bug [Perfect Bright Bloodstone] appears to be identified as a yellow gem instead of a red one.

Also, I am wondering if it would be possble to do any kind of manual adjust to the rotation. I notice any type of build with Readiness acting rather funny; ie. on Rotation Test tab I see Readiness called at 184s before the Rapid Fire that is already off CD. Is there a way I can correct for this?

Shandara · 12/16/08, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Faerdael

Very minor bug [Perfect Bright Bloodstone] appears to be identified as a yellow gem instead of a red one.

Also, I am wondering if it would be possble to do any kind of manual adjust to the rotation. I notice any type of build with Readiness acting rather funny; ie. on Rotation Test tab I see Readiness called at 184s before the Rapid Fire that is already off CD. Is there a way I can correct for this?

Are your priorities good? If Readiness is higher than Rapid Fire it'll be used first. Yet the logic waits for Readiness to get off CD before using Rapid Fire itself.

CrowneVict · 12/16/08, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by ScarySniper

I´d like to test a 0/53/18 specc with imp AS but it seams that there are no L´n´L proccs with the refreshed serpsting. (testet both versions 79 and 80)

I've had LnL issues as well - LnL actually shows up as a DPS loss when trying to use AS.

Scrith · 12/16/08, 1:34 PM

If you are having problems seeing the 25-man Naxx weapons, try hitting the Ranged Weapons button on the Gear Planner.

CrowneVict · 12/16/08, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by Scrith

I am having a similar problem: the 25-man Naxx ranged weapons are not showing up in the gear planner.

What I've done so far: downloaded the spreadsheet again and re-entered my info, made sure I have the 25-man box checked in the gear planner, made sure I have the Naxx button checked in the gear planner, hit the calculate attributes button, hit the test rotation button, made sure assume 100% is off, created other profiles for hunters I know (these weapons don't show up for them either). What am I missing?

Actually, this reminds me - For those of us unable to check the boxes in the gear planner, would it be possible to have them all checked by default? I run the sheet on a mac, so I'm unable to get any of the macros, boxes, etc working.

Shandara · 12/16/08, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by CrowneVict

Actually, this reminds me - For those of us unable to check the boxes in the gear planner, would it be possible to have them all checked by default? I run the sheet on a mac, so I'm unable to get any of the macros, boxes, etc working.

You can edit the fields on the 'Control Data' tab if you know how to unhide it.

Synergy · 12/17/08, 7:06 AM

Is there a reason why it tells me that picking another piece and losing a 2 or 4 set bonus is a dps increase? That seems impossible to me.

Shandara · 12/17/08, 7:17 AM

Originally Posted by Synergy

Is there a reason why it tells me that picking another piece and losing a 2 or 4 set bonus is a dps increase? That seems impossible to me.

The Gear Planner is currently not account for t7 2-set bonus (or 4-piece). This will be in the next release.

Andawari · 12/17/08, 12:59 PM

@ Shandara:

Are there any plans to create an OpenOffice version (WotLK)?

Synergy · 12/17/08, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by Shandara

The Gear Planner is currently not account for t7 2-set bonus (or 4-piece). This will be in the next release.

Ok that's what I thought but I wasn't sure. By the way, great work Shandara, this is good stuff.

Kathucka · 12/17/08, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by Zerlu

I can confirm that the DoT will be applied whether or not Faerie Fire is up, however I'm unsure as to whether or not the Ignore Armor function is being applied in that situation. Is there a way I might be able to test this?

No guarantees if it will work, but you might try Beast Lore. I think that reports current armor.

Alex234 · 12/17/08, 9:08 PM

Thx for this spreadsheet !
But one thing - it always telling me that Arrowsong is better than Nerubian Conqueror, its really better ?

turbo_012 · 12/18/08, 12:34 AM

Ok I managed to reproduce the pet issue I had before and I just want to make sure if it's intended or if I'm doing something wrong.

Here's the screenshot of the pet pane to explain what I'm talking about.

The family is set to Cat correctly and the talents should be correct as well, I had to manually decide what the skill rotation should be and make the ones with cooldowns priority. The question is if it's correct to see 0.00 dps next to "call of the wild" and "rabid".