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Old 01/17/09, 8:39 PM   #1291
dssurge
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Korgath
This idea could also be spread to the Gem section, and I think it's fair by now to exclude all pre-Wrath and green gem cuts (aside from Shifting, seeing as theres no rare version.)

Flipping through the gem list looking for something I'm not sure about the name of is one of the most annoying parts of the spreadsheet. Not asking to re-invent the wheel, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to use old-world gems. I'm sure the same can be said for enchants as well.

Changes to the gem, enchant and food list would probably remove a good amount of bloat from the spreadsheet.

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Old 01/17/09, 9:45 PM   #1292
Instnt
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Illidan
Any idea why I can't click on any of the buttons?(Import, export, load from armory, save/load profile, etc.) Do I need to install something?

Downloaded this update and it worked for me. Download details: Update for Office 2003 (KB907417)

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Old 01/18/09, 1:35 AM   #1293
screwzloos
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Human Warrior
 
Arathor
It's probably been brought up before, but incase it hasn't I just noticed that the 1% crit to bows Troll racial isn't accounted for in the spreadsheet, or at least it isn't in the gear planner.

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Old 01/18/09, 2:42 AM   #1294
Shandara
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Azjol-Nerub (EU)
Originally Posted by screwzloos View Post
It's probably been brought up before, but incase it hasn't I just noticed that the 1% crit to bows Troll racial isn't accounted for in the spreadsheet, or at least it isn't in the gear planner.
It is displayed on the 'race' line on the Gear tab if you are a dwarf with a gun or a troll with a bow. But you are correct that it is not considered when comparing upgrades on the Gear Planner.

As for the food/gems' names being confusing. I agree. I'll have to think about how to do this in the best way.


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Old 01/18/09, 7:45 AM   #1295
Nooska
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Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by dssurge View Post
This idea could also be spread to the Gem section, and I think it's fair by now to exclude all pre-Wrath and green gem cuts (aside from Shifting, seeing as theres no rare version.)
Agreed, though please keep the green Northrend gems in. The green Northrend gems are better than the epic (and even the JC only iirc) TBC gems, however the difference between green northrend gems, perfect northrend gems and blue northrend gems are minimal.
Apart from being a hunter who doesn't want to spend several hundred gold gemming a subpar piece (not that I really have those anymore) I also wouldn't suggest an applying hunter to go all out if the gear is set to be replaced within a few runs - we are very low on the hunters, shaman and warriors and due to the rate of new characters in this grouping we can almost guarantee that these characters will get new gear if they don't have better from somewhere else already.

I'll admit I still use green gems too, mostly because of the expenditure of the blue ones, and the difficulty of finding a jewelcrafter that can cut them (I am lucky I have a JC character too, but the token system makes it a looong trip to pick up all the gems that are needed).

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Old 01/18/09, 11:42 AM   #1296
Iroared
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Draenei Monk
 
Черный Шрам (EU)
I don't understand how it gets those numbers for DPS. I input my gear, rotation etc, and it says 4900 DPS (on top of the gear page). I never had nearly that much in a long fight with full raid buffs and I don't think there are many mistakes to make in BM rotation (keep serpent up and spam steadyshot). Is there anything I'm missing? Should I upload my spreadsheet?

Also, Hearty Rhino gives 280 armor penetration in the spreadsheet.

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Old 01/18/09, 6:38 PM   #1297
DanluvsKelly
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Ravencrest
Shandara, is there any way to implement the benefits for Mixology? I know it may be more difficult, but it would be nice to have a little yes/no menu that would then show the benefits for elixirs/flasks as a result of having Alchemy as a profession.

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Old 01/19/09, 3:52 AM   #1298
Rezdan
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Nagrand
As I was testing the effects of changing Serpent Sting priority for my future Survival shot rotation, I noticed that I'm getting the same exact total DPS having Serpent Sting prioritized before Explosive Shot and Aimed Shot as opposed to directly before Steady Shot. I don't want to debate which priority is best, but just want to point out that the damage bonus from Noxious Stings doesn't seem to be tied to Serpent Sting uptime.

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Old 01/19/09, 5:36 AM   #1299
Rokh
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Emerald Dream
The "priority" queue simply adds the DPS of each shot together, it's not actually using a priority system for determining the DPS listed there. When you test out your rotation, it uses the priority queue to see what it would look like, but positioning the shots doesn't have any effect on DPS.

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Old 01/19/09, 5:52 AM   #1300
Rezdan
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Nagrand
Yes, I realize it doesn't have any effect and attempted to point that out. My question is shouldn't it affect dps? Is it too time-consuming to model this? Its not a problem if it is; I just wanted to know if this is a limitation of the sheet.

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Old 01/19/09, 6:00 AM   #1301
Chul
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Proudmoore
Rabid uptime

I've always been sceptical of Rabids uptime based on what I've seen on on test dummies so I went and did some testing.

Firstly, do special attacks trigger Rabid Power (the stacking buff)?

The only clear cut way was to use a ranged special attack so the only attack that hit a target was the special attack. The result: Nothing. Using lava breath only on the target with Rabid up, I got no Rabud Power buff.

Second, is Rabid Power really a 50% chance?

For each Rabid buff duration, I counted the number of hits during the buff and what stack it got to. I then added the total number of hits and compared it to the total number of Rabid Power triggers. The result: Around 35% chance to trigger Rabid Power.

Now granted I only did ~350 hits, but the results look interesting. Can anyone else check this as this would impact the spreadsheet calculations.

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Why is it that other classes feel whole and simple and fluid yet hunter feels like directing a symphony as a paraplegic midget with tourettes?

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Old 01/19/09, 8:37 AM   #1302
Whitemane
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Tarren Mill (EU)
Would it be possible to unlock the "Default gems" section? It's a great option, but it's kinda stupid that it's locked since at least for me it's set to entirely wrong gems.

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Old 01/19/09, 9:04 AM   #1303
Soulcow
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Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by Whitemane View Post
Would it be possible to unlock the "Default gems" section? It's a great option, but it's kinda stupid that it's locked since at least for me it's set to entirely wrong gems.
You can edit the column next to it and if you set the switch on top of that worksheet to not use defaults, then it should use any custom entered values in the lighter colored column.

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Old 01/19/09, 9:05 AM   #1304
Jerem
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Les Sentinelles (EU)
Originally Posted by Whitemane View Post
Would it be possible to unlock the "Default gems" section? It's a great option, but it's kinda stupid that it's locked since at least for me it's set to entirely wrong gems.
E15 E16 E17 and E18 are locked.
But F15 F16 F17 and F18 however are not.
The F column is actually labelled "Custom values", and, when filled in, values of F cells "overwrite" the values from the E column.

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Old 01/19/09, 9:55 AM   #1305
Whitemane
King Hippo
 
Orc Hunter
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
I didn't even notice the custom value column, fuck - sorry and thanks

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