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Old 01/20/09, 6:16 PM   #1336
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
When I use a Moth and set Serenity Dust to a priority, it never seems to provide any benefit.

If this is because of the limitation on it autocast, then we might be able to macro it?

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Old 01/20/09, 6:28 PM   #1337
Esoth
Bald Bull
 
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Pandaren Hunter
 
Whisperwind
Originally Posted by KraxisSingular View Post
When I use a Moth and set Serenity Dust to a priority, it never seems to provide any benefit.

If this is because of the limitation on it autocast, then we might be able to macro it?
It looks like Serenity Dust is being used for its damage adjustment whether or not it's set in the pet rotation or not. If you look in the Pet Calculations tab in E194:F199 you have the calculation for it, which goes into C:15.

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Old 01/20/09, 10:44 PM   #1338
loganray
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Draka
Any idea why the crit% on the spreadsheet shows higher then my character sheet shows by almost 2%? I import my gear and talents, change the shot rotation. All my stats are correct but my crit% is to high.

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Old 01/20/09, 10:58 PM   #1339
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
Originally Posted by Esoth View Post
It looks like Serenity Dust is being used for its damage adjustment whether or not it's set in the pet rotation or not. If you look in the Pet Calculations tab in E194:F199 you have the calculation for it, which goes into C:15.
Wow, that makes it a crap pet for any spec. It simply doesn't match any of the better pets at all. In my survival spec it was around 15 DPS ahead of a Wind Serpent, which was nearly 100 DPS behind the Raptor/Cat combo (being so close that I would call them similar).

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Old 01/21/09, 12:08 AM   #1340
Rokh
Piston Honda
 
Orc Hunter
 
Emerald Dream
Originally Posted by KraxisSingular View Post
Wow, that makes it a crap pet for any spec. It simply doesn't match any of the better pets at all. In my survival spec it was around 15 DPS ahead of a Wind Serpent, which was nearly 100 DPS behind the Raptor/Cat combo (being so close that I would call them similar).
In my BiS Survival sheet I'm seeing a difference of roughly 35dps. I'm not sure what would make the gap in your sheet so much larger.

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Old 01/21/09, 2:51 AM   #1341
Lerastes
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Cenarion Circle
Would it be possible to get the new Darkmoon Card: Death modeled? It's been changed to 85 crit rating. The proc, I assume, is unchanged. If the DPS on it was on par with Greatness (highly unlikely but one can hope), there will be many happy people for a very short period of time, as the cards are extremely cheap.

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Old 01/21/09, 4:02 AM   #1342
Rezdan
Don Flamenco
 
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Nagrand
[Darkmoon Card: Death] has a 35% Proc Chance with a 45 second internal cooldown. The cooldown makes this trinket nowhere near best in slot. It was previously rumored to have a 15sec internal cooldown but its been proven that the cooldown is 45 seconds.

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Old 01/21/09, 6:56 AM   #1343
Gadget
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Antonidas (EU)
Originally Posted by Kharthus View Post
When I try to import from the armory it says my character doesn't exist. I'm assuming this is because I'm behind a proxy server. Anyway to support proxy servers?
This happened to me too, on the same day, without a proxy (or without one that would affect downloading armory data anyway). Worked later on again. I assume, it was due to Armory lags due to update preparation for the patch.

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Old 01/21/09, 9:26 AM   #1344
Fierra
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Fenris
I know this is early yet, and I don't want to nettle you Shandara, but I'm simply curious. Do you have an ETA on getting the new Wintergrasp items implemented?

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Old 01/21/09, 9:27 AM   #1345
Celade
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Doomhammer (EU)
I've been using these spreadsheets for quite some time now, so kudos on the great work.

It would be great if the stats of the Deadly and Hateful arena gear could be looked over again, cause what is in v82 of the spreadsheet is not what the stats in-game (or on wowhead) are. Specifically [Deadly Gladiator's Chain Leggings] has the wrong stamina and intellect numbers and [Hateful Gladiator's Chain Spaulders] has the same problem. Another thing is that [Deadly Gladiator's Waistguard of Triumph] is misnamed, being called Deadly Gladiator's Belt instead. It also seems that [Deadly Gladiator's Waraxe] is missing in the spreadsheet, so it would be awesome if those could be added as well.

Since 3.0.8 there have been some new items as well, and it would be cool if these could be added: [Titan-Forged Chain Helm of Triumph] and [Anvil of Titans]. The trinket is not the same as the [Mirror of Truth], as that one procs on crits and the new one on hits (both give the same buff, same name, 1000 AP). I havn't been able to find any numbers as to proc rate etc. so it would be great if somebody could come up with them - else I'll see if I can run some tests.

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Old 01/21/09, 11:26 AM   #1346
Klauso
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Sargeras
I always start a new sheet whenever a new version is released. What was the first SS version to contain the new Steady shot "nerf"?

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Old 01/21/09, 11:49 AM   #1347
Iru
Don Flamenco
 
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Draenei Hunter
 
Muradin
SS nefr was added in version 80. Version 79a is the last pre-nerf sheet

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Old 01/21/09, 11:58 AM   #1348
Ferlog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Shadowsong
Improved Arcane Shot Not Doing Any DPS in Surv

Arcane shot when included in the rotation is producing 0 dps in the survival spec that's saved to the template, moving the ability around appears to have no effect. (Perhaps we're not suppose to use arcane shot in survival? If that's the case I apologize but I would think you'd show the results of a bad rotation if that were true).

Thanks for your time!

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Old 01/21/09, 12:02 PM   #1349
Klauso
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Iru View Post
SS nefr was added in version 80. Version 79a is the last pre-nerf sheet
Thanks

Arcane shot shares a cooldown with explosive shot - so yeah I took it off my bar when moving to Survival last week ES>AS

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Old 01/21/09, 12:02 PM   #1350
g33ksta
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Executus (EU)
Originally Posted by Ferlog View Post
Arcane shot when included in the rotation is producing 0 dps in the survival spec that's saved to the template, moving the ability around appears to have no effect. (Perhaps we're not suppose to use arcane shot in survival? If that's the case I apologize but I would think you'd show the results of a bad rotation if that were true).

Thanks for your time!

Arcane Shot and Explosive Shot share the same cooldown.

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