I stand corrected hehe, obviously can tell how much I've speced survival. I'll give it a shot when I get home, thanks for taking the time to correct my stupidity .

Your spreadsheet isn't broken, wowarmory is, usually if you get that message, check the site, if it's busy or down, that's why your import isn't working.

Just for reference and so you can tidy up as and when, Hyperspeed Accelerators now (3.0.8) only have a 60 second cooldown.

I've just gone back to test BM again after the patch, and something is kind of worrying me.

I DPSed a Heroic Training Dummy for 10 minutes, Cooldowns used whenever they were up, same for trinket, Serpent Sting constantly up, whenever I went OOM I hit viper until I was at 100% (carrying on my Steady Auto spam) just to keep things consistent.

My pet had Rabid, Claw and Rake all on Auto Cast, it's level 80, talent spec is pure DPS. My spec was Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft and I had the Steady Shot, Improved Aspect of the Hawk and Bestial Wrath glyphs.

My personal breakdown of top 3 abilities (according to Recount):

Auto Shot: 45%
Steady Shot: 44%
Serpent Sting: 10%

For a total of 1830 DPS (not good, especially since I've had over 5k in raids, but I know buffs make a huge difference).

That's compared to a recent 10 man Patchwerk clear (all I could find) of

Steady Shot: 49%
Auto Shot: 41.5%
Serpent Sting: 9.5%.

I can understand that, because of the Steady Shot changes. That seems to line up nicely.

Looking at my Cat's DPS breakdown, however, confused me. The Cat ran to the back of the training dummy, so it wouldn't have been Parried or Dodged any more than in a normal boss fight.

The only record I can find of me using my Cat is messing around as Survival pre patch, but ok. It's personal breakdown on Patchwerk 25 looked like this:

Swing: 41.6%
Claw: 37.5%
Rake: 20.8% (5% miss)

Ok, that looks fair to me. That's fine.

Compared to the breakdown on the Heroic Training Dummy just now. It did 684.2 DPS for 37% of my total.

Swing: 47%
Claw: 43%
Rake: 4%.

Rake... four percent. Now, I know it got a nerf, but seriously, it wasn't that big and this is supposed to be a special ability. What happeend to Rake? Anyone know if it's bugged? I know I could have gotten particularly unlucky but over 10 minutes, it doing only 4% compared to 20.8? I don't see that being down to luck.

The sheet still has it at about 7% buffed and 9% unbuffed, so it should apparently be doing double what it is.

So I ran it again for 5 minutes. Came up with 47% 42% and 5% respectively. So about the same. It was up most of the time too, because I was watching it along with my Serpent Sting.

That's what I did at the end. 4-5% instead of 7-9% ingame and sheet respectively. I was kinda trying to find out how much it had been nerfed to see if it was in line with what they said and what was expected.

If the special ability of a Ferocity pet is only doing 5% of its DPS though and providing next to no utility beyond that, why do we even have them :-/. 5% might be a slight nerf in terms of overall DPS, sure, but for that one skill it's a 50% drop which in my book is pretty major. If it's supposed to be like that, it could also make the difference between whether a Cat or a Raptor is the best for Survival.

But yeah I know the breakdown is going to be different between specs but that's all I could find and wanted something to check it against because I was pretty sure it wasn't always that poor, and they did only say a 'slight' nerf.

Quickly, anyone got a mod that makes it REALLY obvious when Lock n Load procs, because I'm bad for noticing, and when it does proc, do people think its worth just going for ES -> ES -> ES, anyone had chance to test yet?

Going ES->ES->ES is the way to go. Hardest hitting shot you have as SV.

If you can make sure you get all the ticks. If you are uncertain about it or sure that you are too triggerhappy, then interleaving would be a better option. Spamming is nearly as bad as interleaving with an Arcane Shot.

ElkBuffBar, Miks Scrolling Battle Text, ClassTimers, and a few other mods allow you to add "Lock and Load" to the list of buffs to watch for.

In MSBT, it should be under the Notification area. I have yet to do it on my char, but it should be easy to spot. Will post screenshots of settings page if needed. You can too Rez =P

Not wanting to go off topic, I find I'm so focussed on cool-downs on my bars that I can't watch my notification area any more as Survival :S

Yeah, lets keep further discussion of Survival playstyle to the Survival thread. Lets get back on-topic please.