In suggested DPS spec for non-exotic Ferocity pets, it has the pet getting Dash in tier 1, in order to get the 3 necessary to bounce down to tier 2. However, does charge help increase pets dps with any significance? It gives 25% AP bonus on first attack...

I guess my real question is, I have 51 in BM talents currently, and with the extra points, is it worth it to do 2 Cobra Reflexes and 1 Stamina to get to next tier, and then get Charge instead of Dash later on?

Here is the current spec looking at:
Pet Calculator - Wowhead

With last point at 80, not sure where to put it... maybe the free rez if dies?

Also, would Rabid and Call of the Wild interfere with each other?

Speed boosts are great for the same reason that speed enchants are great for players. Faster target acquisition and better survivability.

Excuse me if this topic has already been covered but has anyone compared the difference in DPS between cat and spirit beast?

Thanks for responding Crowbite, I guess what I meant to ask really... what is the difference between getting Charge and Dash... Dash seems to be prevalent in most builds, but Charge adds a little extra bit of DPS to first attack, so wouldn't Charge be preferable in the situation where you have extra points from BM 51 point talent?

Now I feel stupid. Honestly, i'd rather have dash to get to the next rung because my extra talent would be better off in bloodthirsty ->pheonix

I've just got started with Wotlk raiding and i'm abit concerned about 2 talents and which one to pick. (i most probably missed the relevant post, after spending few hours reading the FAQ topic, or maybe i've been reading the wrong topic :S),

Since Wotlk items seam to award a decent amount of stats i'm wondering what's the dps loss/gain for someone who tries to max Carerful Aim instead of Focused Aim. Personally, noticed last night that my int was above 300 (buffed, whilst using three items [shoulders, chest, boots] that didn't award any Int equip bonus) so i'm not sure if dropping 300+ AP (most prolly over 400 after i replace those three items) is worth it, considering that i'm actually losing even more dps since it's not only my AP dropping but my pet's as well.

Is there a formula showing AP vs HR for items of the same Item Level? (pref item lvl above 200)


ps. Keep in mind that HR values won't change whilst the stats will continuously increase as the Item level increases.

What would be the best professions for a PvE Hunter? Are First Aid and Cooking worth leveling? Is making Draenei for the extra 1% hit worth it?

I have read through a lot of posts and I have a question regarding hit/crit.

I know that to reach hit cap you need ~196 hit if u have focused aim. However, I have ~200 now, but my crit is really low, ~20%. Other hunters in my guild are running with 80-100 hit and have more than 25%-30% crit. (they have better gear tho)

Is it worth it to sacrifice so much hit to get crit ?

It generally isn't worth it, because of the dual roll system hunters are believed to use for special attacks.


(from The Theorycraft Think Tank).

Although, this is the kind of thing only a spreadsheet could really give you an answer for.

I'm not sure if this is a simple question but here goes.
I'm about to give a 17/54 Survival spec (with Steady, Serpent, and Rapid Fire Glyphs) a try and based on the spreadsheet this is one that squeaks out just about as much damage as the spec can. It ranks about 700 or so dps behind a 50/21 BM/Readiness build with the same gear. I'm wondering if the mana regen provided for the raid by the Hunting Party is worth the rather hefty dps loss. I don't mind taking the personal hit if the raid benefits more than I lose. I'm just not that hot with the behind the scenes math sorry. Thank you.

I was in a 10m Naxx raid that didn't have anyone with Replenishment. We got to Sapphrion and wiped 3-4 times.. our problem? healers running OOM. I went and respec'd survival, grabbed Hunting Party for Replenishment and the next try we won.

Is Replenishment useful? YES! But if another class can bring it, that would be more optimal for the raid since BM hunters are doing the most damage right now. If your in the situation i was, where no one else could get it then its very much worth the DPS loss.

I haven't actually had much trouble. I mend pet when i goto hide behind an ice block and thats really about it.

My guesses as to why its easy for me is that we have a feral druid and i have 2pc Rift Stalker. I'm also spec'd 51/x/x for the extra pet points and have put a couple into the resist talents. (I've even been able to keep my pet alive without ever having to take him out during Heigan. That's even letting the pet dps while dancing.) I'll find out more when i have to finally break the set bonus

Yeah, that might be my problem. I have 2pt5, but I wasn't wearing it. I guess the next time we attempt it (which may be a while for me, gg finals) I'll try that out. I totally forgot I had those pieces in my bank haha.

i have tried searching the forums is anyone has experienced this, but to no avail. I am currently MM specced since wotlk and i am having trouble with pet aggro, i have ensured cower is off (its on my pet bar) but my pets just cant keep aggro. even autoshooting gets things on my face in 2-3 shots. i have researched about the pet specs and they seem to be in line with the majority.

I have tried, wolf, scorpion and boar (all same level as me) but nothing has helped yet. anything i am missing? or is this a general issue with MM ?

its working fine with MD but its kinda costly using MD for every pull while doing quest solo for leveling =)

One of the reasons why I favor the scorpid over the cat is that it's a lot more hardy on those types of fights than a ferocity pet. Since the only real DPS talents in the tenacity tree are Spiked Collar and Cobra Reflexes, you are free to put the remaining points in survivability talents. I currently have 3/3 Great Stamina + 2/2 Blood of the Rhino + 3/3 Avoidance and 3/3 Great Resistances.

In a raid my scorpid has 23K hp and stayed up without problems on fights that killed a guildy's devilsaur. I just left my pet in on 25-man Heigan and he soaked up all the splashes and curses with just a little help from AoE healing..

And why exactly do you keep Cover off? It reduces YOUR aggro thus making relative aggro of the pet higher. Turn it ON along with Growl and you will have a lot less troubles.

wrong, cower reduces the pet's threat.

Tooltip in game explicitly says "Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you." All other tooltips of pet abilities say "Pet's ..." or "... of your pet ...".

I'm too lazy to do any tests now but reading the tooltips it's pretty clear that it should lower hunter's threat, not the pet's one. Unless it's another tooltip bug of course.

Your PET is casting Cower, not the player. The tooltip is talking about whoever is casting it. Cower does not lower Hunter aggro. Just because the Bite tooltip is "Bite the enemy, causing # to # damage." doesn't mean the Hunter is casting it. Not to mention Growl and Cower share a cooldown.

The tooltip is pretty much copy pasted from the druid ability, where it actually does lower the player's threat. Hence the confusion

1-hey does freezing arrow make [lock and load] proc?
2-does [resourcefulness] reduce the cooldown and cost of freezing arrow?
3-if 1&2 work then would SV dps be better and more viable to use in raids?

I've got a question in regards to Rare Mobs.

Spawn points usually work such as 2 different mob share the same zone, meaning everytime you kill mob X it opens up for mob Y to spawn instead. With this in mind, do you need to kill off part of the population to open up for a Rare mob, or will they spawn regardless?

I was just recently looking for a Rare Scorpid in Silithus, but since pretty much no one is ever there anymore, I was unsuccesfull. I then went to barren's where a similar Rare mob with the same skin was located and had almost instant success.

I'm thinking this would be quite vital information since I've read a rumor about blizzard adding small bonuses to Rare mobs.