I have looked up and down any forum/spreadsheet I can find for a straight list of weights for hunter stats. I have been using Cheeky's since mid BC but I want to be able to do my own calculations and have a better look at the exact difference between stacking different stats. If anyone knows where to find one please post a link or just the weight list. Thanks.

On Shandara's spreadsheet (continuation of Cheeky's) there's a stat weighting and PAWN string (for the similarly named mod that does stat weighting, I believe) under the 'Overview' tab. The good thing about this is that the values will take your gear and spec into account if you change them and hit the 'calc attributes' button.

I have seen that pet behavior before on Thaddius- what I do is I call off the attack (by hitting the passive hotkey) and then send him in again and that seems to get him to teleport to the boss.

For Thaddius, I put my pet on stay at the bottom of the ramp before we engage the "sub-bosses". Then when they die, he runs back to the bottom, and as I jump across he becomes out of range and is auto-dismissed.

Thank you for the reply but I should have been a little more specific. I want a base weight list starting from no stats with a decay rate for each stat. The list on Shandara's, going to have to get used to not calling it Cheeky's, does take your current gear into account and is great for rating what stats you currently need to improve on. I am one of two officers in charge of physical DPS classes for a guild that has only malygos 25 man left at the end of the second week of raiding and I am looking for something to help out a little with having to respec, regem, and regear any hunters i have to,including myself, in order to squeeze DPS out of them down to tenths of a point. I know all of the conversion rates for stats but if there are formulas out there for how each stat acts depending on how much you have, even if Shandora would be kind enough to share the formulas s/he is using for the stat ratings on the spreadsheet I would greatly appreciate it.

I realize this may have stepped out of the simple question/simple answer theme so<Blows Conch Horn> Elite hunters assemble!!!

Thanks.

The point is that stat ratings are NOT fixed in relation to eachother. They are dependant on a great many factors. While it is possible to give approximate figures for various levels of gearing (as has been done in the past with Agility Equivalence Points and the like) those are not completely accurate except for the exact gear set used to determine them.

My sheet doesn't use any special formula to determine the weightings, it just observes how much DPS you gain from going +1 to a stat (actually it does +10 and then divides the result by 10).

The interrelation between stats is different going from no gear to full tier7 and the respective values shift gradually. I don't think it is possible to produce the weightings and decay (or gain) rate you want without them being fairly meaningless.

Besides not knowing about it the first time, I don't really think it's a huge deal to have to dismiss before the Thaddius jump. You only lose maybe a few seconds of DPS.

Only fight where I find it a pain is Malygos, but that's just because I forget to have him follow and attack.

Gluth shouldn't be a problem as you can dismiss your pet before entering the pipe.

Best option I've found for Thaddius so far is DPSing from the edge of the platform nearest to Thad, and at about 2% on the sub-boss casting Eyes of the Beast, running him off and putting him on stay, then running off myself in AotPack and resetting my pet to follow.

The benefits here are no practically no DPS downtimes as EotB is a 1.8 sec cast for me vs. 5 sec for Dismiss. Also AotPack makes it so that you can't miss the jump due to "lag" or being a failure, with that extra 30% run speed you can literally run off without jumping at all. It also gets you to your Thaddius positioning faster =D

In regards to Malygos, I haven't been able to find a solution to the vortex bug aside from the already known /petfollow /petattack, however I did notice one trick for Phase 2 that I discovered back when I was testing a Devilsaur. When Phase 2 begins, putting the Devilsaur on Defensive will allow him to follow up into the air and melee the Scions of Eternity once the Nexus Lords are dead. Because of the fact that it only works with a Devilsaur (well at least not with cat or scorpid) I'm pretty sure it's just due to his enormous hit box while under the effects of Monstrous Bite clipping with the mobs above, and then he gets stuck up there just attack from mob to mob.

Hello there
I have recently rerroled a hunter in Wotlk. Gaining info where I can.
Am currently fooling around with BM specc. I have noticed and read in lots of WWS that scorpid poison did a LOT of dmg. In fact 43% of all dmg done on one particular.

This kind of took me by surprise since I heard wolf/core hounds was the way to go for BM and raids in Wotlk. Since am fairly new to the class, any info or suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Also if using a Scorpion should I go for both Cobra Reflexes? Since Frenzy will proc also am thinking it is prolly a better overall DPS increase.

Could someone confirm or correct me if am mistaken in some of the above statements?
If am wrong could someone suggest a very good BM pet for raids?

Thank you for your time and keep up the gr8 work!

Cobra Reflexes is always a dps increase for every pet. It lowers the max damage some, but it increases haste even more, which results in a net dps increase. You should only ever skip it if you aren't trying to maximize dps (if, for example, you wanted to make a max/survivability/utility pet).

I kinda feel like an idiot asking this but I saw in the surv thread that the hit cap was no longer 9% but rather 8%....is this true? And if so when the hell did this happen? I hear the spreadsheet has this as the hitcap but I'm absolutely inept at getting it to work and figure I can be lazy and ask you guys.

This is quite contrary to anythng I've read so far. I have done to testing myself, but it seems the general consensus is that scorpids are still on top followed by cats by a wide margin, despite the nerf to their specials. Did you come up with this information on PTR or live? Is this from controlled testing, or random raid performance?
I don't mean to sound combative, I'm just curious to know where you're drawing your conclusions from.

It was thought of in BC that Scorpid's weren't to be used with an Elemental Shaman in the raid. Did the mechanics of that class change and I missed it?

Thanks in advance.

Those were wind serpents due to their Lightning Breath, not scorpids.

I've been thinking about this about every raid, but is it not worth it to have prowl on while raiding. I was thinking the 50% dmg boost for 1 attack probably not equal to the extra hits it would get by getting there faster.

Prowl also isn't raid-worthy because the pet will break it before reaching the target with Charge or Rabid if you have them, nullifying the bonus.

As someone else pointed out, that was wind serpent, plus it was enhancement shamans, not elemental. The attacks used to eat stormstrike charges. Now, however, only the enhancement shaman gains from those charges, so you can use whatever nature damage pet you want.

Assuming you have autocasts on, the issue is that your pet is generating more focus than it can spend each global cooldown - the combination of bestial discipline and gftt can do that.

Thats what I figured, but i didnt know if you could macro in like bite or something, pet skills are so buggy, its just hard to tell if its casting as much as possible

Watch the pet bar. You should see the global cooldown "pie" refreshing constantly. If it isn't, then you know it isn't autocasting. If it is, then you are just generating excess focus and may want to consider pulling a point from a focus generating talent and putting it elsewhere.

I tried to search for this in other threads but I didn't find it. I'm trying to figure out some sort of general guidelines for stat priorities as a BM hunter. After getting to the hit cap, I've been gemming my gear with AP and Crit, and been glad when some gear has some Armor Pen or Haste.

Now, how would you prioritize the benefits of Armor Pen and Haste? Is there a point where Armor Pen is worth more than some crit rating or ap? I know that Haste only speeds up my Auto Shot as a BM hunter with Serpent's Swiftness, so is this just a nice add on an item or is it better than I thought?

Note; I'm really, really bad with Excel and spreadsheets. Some general opinion would suffice to my question really.

Thanks for answers.

I would say that for BM hunter hit > AP > crit > agi > int > haste > armor penetration. As for Armor Pen versus AP/crit - always take AP/crit.

with the new patch coming and the nerf to BM, do you guys suggest staying bm or going to MM or Surv. i just tested my dps in MM/surv (going to trueshot and getting expose weakness and master tactician. my dps droped from 3200-2100. i think i might be doing something wrong so im wondering should i still stay BM or try pure mark, or pure surv? this is my spec in BM
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...h=181306000000

this is my spec in Surv/Mark

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...h=000000000000