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Old 01/23/09, 12:37 PM   #576
Fierra
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Fenris
Originally Posted by Keldin View Post
A question about the Steady Shot Glyph - Patch notes say that MfD and Steady Shot Glyph now work properly. But I did 2 tests and there was nearly no difference in damage output with or without the SS glyph. It can't be that RNG messed up so badly. Is the Glyph and Talent fixed or not?
As this is a Marksman-specific question, the Marksman thread might be a great place to search for the answer.

Marksman questions

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Old 01/23/09, 12:53 PM   #577
Constella
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Aggramar
Trap Dance

How do you trap dance without losing DPS?

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Old 01/23/09, 2:39 PM   #578
Har
Piston Honda
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Drenden
Originally Posted by Constella View Post
How do you trap dance without losing DPS?
You will always lose a bit of DPS when you move as a hunter, as it eliminates steady shot from your rotation, If, however, you time your movement to coincide with a few instants, you will mitigate your losses. The extra lock and load you get from it has to do more damage than you lose getting the trap placed, but since a survival hunter gets free explosive shots, I think that it's worth it.

Of course on any boss with adds, it's trivial. Maexxna, for example, provides very handy little spiders that will happily set a trap off for you.


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Old 01/23/09, 3:36 PM   #579
Aird
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Stormreaver
Dwarf hunter, guns and hit cap

When calculating the hit cap for a dwarf hunter using a gun, would the +5 to guns be equivalent to having 3 points in Focused Aim?

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Old 01/23/09, 3:41 PM   #580
alarge
Piston Honda
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Vek'nilash
Originally Posted by Aird View Post
When calculating the hit cap for a dwarf hunter using a gun, would the +5 to guns be equivalent to having 3 points in Focused Aim?
I think you missed a note somewhere. Racials no longer give weapon skill. In the case of dwarves, you now get +1% to crit.

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Old 01/23/09, 10:43 PM   #581
Kerbaroth
Banned
 
Dwarf Shaman
 
Gilneas (EU)
Did anyone succeed in finding an Addon that provides internal L'n'L CD ?

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Old 01/24/09, 4:02 PM   #582
Seabrat
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Gorefiend
I am using Power Auras to tell me when serpent sting falls off, when explosive shot and aimed shot are up. It works very well.

It seems that it should be able to tell you when you should use Tranq shot as well, based on buff(s) the target has. Has anyone set it up to do this, or has the name(s) of the buff to look for?

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Old 01/24/09, 9:15 PM   #583
sabes
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage (EU)
hunter shots

hi
i checked web and made topics on wow forum a few times but mostly no answers or people didnt have any idea;

my confusion is about shot schools, i have seen my abilities blocked by warriors and paladins and also do reduced damage to dk's when they have anti-magic shield on.

are hunter shots magic or physical, if physical why they do reduced damage when anti-magic shield on or if magic why they getting blocked and not getting haste benefit to their gcd while magic and how armor penetration stat effects them if it does.

also i have another question about disarm, why when i disarm a warrior or rogue they can use ranged weapons and when i get disarmed i cant use any.

thanks

edit:correct me if i am wrong i didnt have much chance to make more observations and not much on web about it.

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Old 01/25/09, 12:25 AM   #584
Griefknight
Banned
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Detheroc
I went and read some of the posts and I'd just like to know what the general rotation is for SV when the target is above 20% HP?

Last edited by Griefknight : 01/25/09 at 12:51 AM.

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Old 01/25/09, 1:23 AM   #585
sabes
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage (EU)
Originally Posted by Griefknight View Post
I went and read some of the posts and I'd just like to know what the general rotation is for SV when the target is above 20% HP?
serpent sting>ES>steady shot till ES is up, and when LnL procs you can use ES>arcane>ES or ES>steady>ES>steady

and you better ask this in survival topic.

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Old 01/25/09, 6:10 AM   #586
Soulcow
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by sabes View Post
serpent sting>ES>steady shot till ES is up, and when LnL procs you can use ES>arcane>ES or ES>steady>ES>steady

and you better ask this in survival topic.
Or just use the search function, because that question got answered millions of times the last few days.

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Old 01/25/09, 7:42 AM   #587
Piestalker
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by sabes View Post
hi
i checked web and made topics on wow forum a few times but mostly no answers or people didnt have any idea;

my confusion is about shot schools, i have seen my abilities blocked by warriors and paladins and also do reduced damage to dk's when they have anti-magic shield on.

are hunter shots magic or physical, if physical why they do reduced damage when anti-magic shield on or if magic why they getting blocked and not getting haste benefit to their gcd while magic and how armor penetration stat effects them if it does.

also i have another question about disarm, why when i disarm a warrior or rogue they can use ranged weapons and when i get disarmed i cant use any.

thanks

edit:correct me if i am wrong i didnt have much chance to make more observations and not much on web about it.
Your steady shot, aimed shot and autoshot are all physical, while chimera shot , explosive shot, arcane shot and serpent sting is spell.

About the disarm issue, every disarm only removes melee weapons except for rogue dismantle, which is the only disarm ability that removes ranged weapons too.

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Old 01/25/09, 11:33 AM   #588
Pollo
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Turalyon (EU)
I have a question about scopes, more precise the Diamond-cut Refractor Scope.

Is the damage from the scope calculated before or after damage bonuses from shots and talents?


For example if I'm MM with Ranged Weapon Specialization (RWS). Do it count it like:

(WeaponDMG+ScopeDMG) * RWS

or

(WeaponDMG*RWS)+ScopeDMG



Also do all shots that are affected by weapon damage affected by scope damage before or after the bonuses? Eg Chimera shot?


Ty for the help

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Old 01/25/09, 7:16 PM   #589
Crox
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Mannoroth (EU)
I have a question regarding MD.

Today in naxx 10-man I pulled the bosses as usual with MD so the tank has no probs holding aggro, but it seemed as if only the first shot gave aggro profit to the tank, after the second and third shot I had aggro.

Has anyone made the same experience?

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Old 01/25/09, 8:46 PM   #590
heritikyl
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Kil'Jaeden
Originally Posted by Crox View Post
I have a question regarding MD.

Today in naxx 10-man I pulled the bosses as usual with MD so the tank has no probs holding aggro, but it seemed as if only the first shot gave aggro profit to the tank, after the second and third shot I had aggro.

Has anyone made the same experience?
If the first shot you used for the MD was Explosive Shot, and assuming your tank didn't build up significant threat after that (or he was positioning the boss) then your shots after Explosive might have counted against you as far as aggro since I'm pretty sure each tick of Explosive Shot will consume a MD charge.

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Old 01/25/09, 11:52 PM   #591
MetallicaRulez0
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage
FD bugged?

Tonight in Naxx my fellow Hunters and I all experienced a very strange bug with FD. Immediately after Feigning and getting back up, our threat was restored as if we'd only Shadowmelded. Has anyone else experienced this, or has there been any word from Blizzard if it's a known bug?

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Old 01/26/09, 4:44 AM   #592
Kujis
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Karazhan (EU)
Originally Posted by MetallicaRulez0 View Post
Tonight in Naxx my fellow Hunters and I all experienced a very strange bug with FD. Immediately after Feigning and getting back up, our threat was restored as if we'd only Shadowmelded. Has anyone else experienced this, or has there been any word from Blizzard if it's a known bug?
I've noticed this behaviour many times. When you FD don't get up immediately, wait at least 1 second - your threat should be reset correctly.

Originally Posted by Pollo View Post
I have a question about scopes, more precise the Diamond-cut Refractor Scope.
Is the damage from the scope calculated before or after damage bonuses from shots and talents?
...
Also do all shots that are affected by weapon damage affected by scope damage before or after the bonuses? Eg Chimera shot?
It works only for autoshot, so it's inferior to [Heartseeker Scope]

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Old 01/26/09, 10:32 AM   #593
Harrumph
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Nordrassil (EU)
Originally Posted by Kujis View Post
I've noticed this behaviour many times. When you FD don't get up immediately, wait at least 1 second - your threat should be reset correctly.
*sigh* this rumour keeps perpetuating itself... All reliable testing that I have seen shows absolutely no link between time spent FD and whether or not threat is wiped. FD is always instant, regardless if the animation fully shows, or if you lie there 0,5s , 1s, 2s , 123178 seconds.
If it looks like threat was dropped, and then reappeared, most likely it was a resist that Omen reports as "false positive", and then when you get up it gets corrected. It is a display bug, not a mechanic bug.

Also, the person who posted a rotation for LnL procs above, it is incorrect to use Arcane, as that wastes a LnL charge. I suppose the poster may have meant Aimed Shot. Either Steady or Aimed (if specced) or Multi-Shot works fine, the important thing is to squeeze in another shot to wait for the 2nd tick of ExS before firing the next ExS.

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Old 01/26/09, 3:16 PM   #594
beesknees
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Kargath
Originally Posted by Harrumph View Post
If it looks like threat was dropped, and then reappeared, most likely it was a resist that Omen reports as "false positive", and then when you get up it gets corrected. It is a display bug, not a mechanic bug.
Since Omen now uses the Blizzard Threat API and doesn't calculate any threat values on its own, I don't think it can have false positives.

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Old 01/26/09, 4:20 PM   #595
Scarecrow23
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Dunemaul
Originally Posted by Harrumph View Post
*sigh* this rumour keeps perpetuating itself... All reliable testing that I have seen shows absolutely no link between time spent FD and whether or not threat is wiped. FD is always instant, regardless if the animation fully shows, or if you lie there 0,5s , 1s, 2s , 123178 seconds.
If it looks like threat was dropped, and then reappeared, most likely it was a resist that Omen reports as "false positive", and then when you get up it gets corrected. It is a display bug, not a mechanic bug.

Also, the person who posted a rotation for LnL procs above, it is incorrect to use Arcane, as that wastes a LnL charge. I suppose the poster may have meant Aimed Shot. Either Steady or Aimed (if specced) or Multi-Shot works fine, the important thing is to squeeze in another shot to wait for the 2nd tick of ExS before firing the next ExS.
As well as what the above poster said, I'm fairly certain it has to do with latency rather then animation time and the server not registering it for whatever reason.

Also, is there a new clear best DPS pet other then cats since the nerf, or what are the equal alternatives?

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Old 01/26/09, 6:58 PM   #596
MetallicaRulez0
Piston Honda
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by Harrumph View Post
If it looks like threat was dropped, and then reappeared, most likely it was a resist that Omen reports as "false positive", and then when you get up it gets corrected. It is a display bug, not a mechanic bug.
I'm sorry I should have been more specific. This was a reproducible bug, and definitely was NOT a resist. All 3 of our Hunters tried multiple times to drop threat and it only worked about half of the time. We couldn't find any sort of pattern to it.

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Old 01/27/09, 10:06 AM   #597
Sapphique
Glass Joe
 
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Troll Hunter
 
Llane
Originally Posted by Scarecrow23 View Post
Also, is there a new clear best DPS pet other then cats since the nerf, or what are the equal alternatives?
For Survival, I'm seeing the best pet as Wasp if your raid isn't already bringing a minor armor debuff, otherwise Raptor. Cat is a bit behind Raptor. Note that Wasp sting does stack with major armor debuffs, like Expose and Sunder.

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Old 01/27/09, 10:42 AM   #598
shermanc
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Gorgonnash
SV crit

As SV spec, how much crit % unbuffed should I strive to achieve before stacking on agi and ap? Of course, I know that hit will come first. Btw, 80 agi would give 1% crit right?

If I put 5 points into AotH, how much haste rating do I need?

I've looked in the SV forums, especially the first page, and did not see any exact no.s there. I dare not post there since these questions are probably considered amateur. Thanks.

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Old 01/27/09, 2:53 PM   #599
Ena.the.rogue
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Korialstrasz
With Thrill of the Hunt, do you get a mana return when an Explosive Shot's tick crits? Is it possible to get multiple TotH procs from a single ES?

Dew. Be. Dew. Be. Dew.

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Old 01/27/09, 4:45 PM   #600
nemo74
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Azshara
Originally Posted by Crox View Post
I have a question regarding MD.

Today in naxx 10-man I pulled the bosses as usual with MD so the tank has no probs holding aggro, but it seemed as if only the first shot gave aggro profit to the tank, after the second and third shot I had aggro.

Has anyone made the same experience?
If you pulled with explosive as an opening the ticks count as dmg so, ES then an auto sneeks in and u aim shot you are now primary aggro if the tank is not all over it.

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