• promdates

From Improved Tracking - Spell - World of Warcraft

Effect Apply Aura: Add Flat Modifier (12) Value: 5

And to quote Ghostcrawler

"On a scale of one to mein kampf, how many racists does it take to make a guild look terrible?"

[03:28] L_J: it's "olololo hero class"

[01:09:39] <DeeNogger> Any of the resident grammer nazis on right now?

 

• VRoscioli

It applies to all mob types that you can track, as long as you are tracking using a hunter ability.

(i.e. as long as you're tracking humanoids, beasts, undead, etc. you get the bonus on beasts, undead, humanoids, etc. If you are a miner and tracking ore, you do not get the bonus. You also cannot get the bonus against types we cannot track (such as mechanical or untyped))

 

leafshadow

Originally it applied only to what was currently being tracked, but this was changed in a later patch and now applies to all mob types that are trackable. This probably explains why you've seen it referenced in both ways.

 

Aejir

Why would my wolf do significantly less damage than another hunter's when the hunter themselves and the wolves are the same spec (in fact, the other hunter's pet's spec was not as good as mine...) and equivalently geared?


Wow Web Stats


From there you can find the Hodir fight and compare our two pets on that alone, and see that Ungentle's vastly out-DPSes mine


This is on Hodir where the two pets have nearly identical buff uptimes: Wow Web Stats

 

Iru

Well just looking at the Hodir fight, 20% less Horn of Winter uptime for your pet and 3 times as much time spent frozen has to have an influence.

Beyond that I would have said pet management, but the fact that Ungentle's pet is doing twice your pet's per hit damage while actually performing fewer attacks suggests that either you two are not as similarly geared as you claim, that his pet spec is not as broken as you think, or that you were missing buffs he wasn't and so weren't giving you pet as much AP

 

Aejir

I missed the Horn thing, but other than that his pet actually wasn't specced for Rabid and had Bloodthirsty instead. Other than that our pet specs were the same.

 

runingman

there are few things that would allow your up pets dps
1. use masters call when he freezes
2. kill command
3. having pet in ice means that you didnt manage pet (ie) passive/defensive switching
4. scrolls

 

Manveru

I have a question about leveling: will a pet (I'm thinking one of the Tenacity ones) be able to keep aggro if I spec MM or Surv?

 

• VRoscioli

In general if you use a tenacity pet and are careful about your AOE threat, you should be okay. If you do pull aggro, a Feign Death/Misdirection works wonders.

 

Brisle

For leveling what worked the best for me was a tenacity pet (i used gorrilia) and a BM spec similar to this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft But if you do happen to pull aggro as VRoscioli said Feign Death and Misdirection usually do the trick

 

SeraphisDH

I was wondering what BM hunters are gemming for nowadays. Seeing that many bm's have dual specc and just gem for agi cause of their sv spec, what should a BM hunter gem for besides the dual spec.

Is AP still the clear winner here since it scales better with the pet?

 

TrevvyTrev

AP is ahead of AGI, but only slightly.

 

6line

Alright, dual wielding in raids is quite common you get extra stats and are rarely in melee range, also you can set up a macro to swap when needed.
2H weapons are for PvP, when youve got a much greater chance of being involved in melee combat and you dont want to miss miss miss miss hit hit miss miss etc., or take the time out to cast a macro

I've read that when dual wielding, wingclip, raptor strike and mongoose bite, do NOT suffer the 19% dual wield penalty, but instead use the standard 5% rate, is this true?
If so, then why arent I using dual wielding in pvp?



(Personally most of my time in melee in PvP is spent getting out of it - drop trap wingclip disengage etc., my melee macro, which is bound to the middle mouse button for added spammability casts raptor strike wingclip and mongoose bite when it procs, in fact I rarely make a regular melee attack, so if those attacks are based on the 2h miss rate, why not dual wield in PvP.... am I missing something?)

 

valiloramov

Is there an optimal spec for Tenacity Pets in raids as MM/SV hunter?

 

Korghal

It is true. All special ("yellow") attacks have a base miss chance of 5% against an equal leveled target. Only your "white" melee attacks suffer the 19% penalty (which probably is less then 19% in WotLK?). And back in TBC, hunters had two one-handed axes with class restriction to them, so people do DW in PVP.

 

TrevvyTrev

Mongoose Bite doesn't "proc" anymore. You can use it whenever it's not on cooldown, although you can't use it in the same macro as Wing Clip unless you use some kind of modifier command.

 

6line

Thanks, I didnt know that, Ive been away since TBC and only recently returned.

One last question, im aiming mostly towards pvp perhaps with a view to arenas, in bgs Ive never been disarmed, is this a big problem in arena and if so should I be investing in a weapon chain or in a massacre enchant with some points in deflection?

 

Rezdan

With the numerous classes that have access to a disarm mechanism, a weapon chain should definately be used for pvp if you don't have any points in deflection.

 

Nandei

I would like to correct your misconception here. Dual wielding is not common in raids (I do not know any serious raiders that dual wield), as you in fact get fewer stats from dual wielding than from using one 2H weapon. According to Item Level Mechanics, 2H weapon has a stat modifier of 1, but 1H weapons 27/64, hence two 1H weapons only get 54/64 ~ 84% of the stats of a 2H weapon.

Edit: Finished a sentence that had half of it missing..

 

6line

Ok thanks for clearing all that up

 

• VRoscioli

Note however, that you can great stronger enchantment out of a pair of two-handed weapons. (For example, you can get +130 AP or +50 Crit/Hit out of dual wielding, vs. +110 AP for a 2H). In most cases, though, this will not overcome the stat difference noted by Nandei. However, if you have some serious RNG hate and can't get a high-level 2H to drop, dual wielding is a legitimate option.

 

netbeast

Since i am now raiding, a question arose to me:
which cooldowns and when should i pop? I have read here in forums, that you should use rapid fire as fast as the boss fight starts, if you know, you will be able to use it once again at the end. BUT, which time should i use my potion of speed? at bloodlust? or straight after rapid fire? afterwards, when should i pop readiness and blood fury? I use blood fury right before my first kill shot and readiness straight afterwards so i can kill shot once again with the AP increase, then i cast rapid fire once again, and wait for my second kill shot. is that rotation right? or maybe someone could direct me in the way i should manage my cooldowns?

Thank you!

 

Enova

Ideally, the cooldowns throughout a fight should look something like this: Rapid fire as soon as the tank gets a few shots in; Readiness as soon as that Rapid Fire wears off. Potions of Speed as soon as the second Rapid Fire wears off, maybe paired with an AP proc if you have any active. If Rapid Shot comes of cooldown before the end of the fight, use it straight away, or wait for a soft enrage if any is present. Readiness and Rapid Fire again if stuff isn't dead yet :P

A few key rules:
- Kill Command on every cooldown, unless the pet can't attack for any reason
- don't pop any haste effects when Bloodlust is present
- don't pop Rapid Fire if you're going to switch to Viper soon; wait until you're back to Dragonhawk
- if you have any 'on use' trinkets, pair them with Rapid Fire.

 

Rhy

Well, there were some posts around the forums that I can't locate at the moment, that suggested stacking haste buffs gives you a slight advantage over chaining them. Ofc, it all depends on the fight duration and the time when your guild uses Heroism/Bloodlust. So there isn't really one simple answer to your question. But what you can do is this:
1. If the fight is shorter than 3 mins, stack Rapid/Bloodlust/Haste pot.
2. If the fight is longer than 3 mins, try to stack if that's possible. If you can't, maximize the use of your cooldowns, depending on the fight duration.

Also, what Enova forgot to mention is always make sure you use Readiness after firing all the special shots, not just one of them as you said.

 

Klemenp

Hey everyone!

Just wanted to ask which will be the best two professions for a raiding hunter to have when patch 3.2 hits?

Thanks!