Hunter: Simple Questions/Simple Answers - Page 55

Bonestorm · 03/15/09, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Grungo

Hopefully this counts as a simple question... is there any way to abandon a pet from the stable? Or if I've got an exotic pet stabled, am I stuck with it in there until I respec BM to take it out to abandon it?

A GM might be able to abandon/delete the pet for you. When 3.0 first came out, I had a problem with one of my old pets (a low level bear) being labeled as exotic for some reason, and as such I couldn't get it out of the stable. GM resolved the issue pretty quickly by deleting it.

Cilmi · 03/16/09, 4:28 PM

does cobra reflexes reduce the skill dmg of the pets?

Enova · 03/16/09, 4:43 PM

Just the auto attacks, but you needn't concern yourself about that. The frequency of the attacks makes up for the damage reduction, especially, but not only for BM.

SpydirShellX · 03/17/09, 9:31 AM

Should you stick to your regular rotation while in Viper?
Is it better to save rapid fire for Viper or use it Early and Often?

Iru · 03/17/09, 10:03 AM

Generally, there is no value in changing your rotation in viper. I personally use RF early and often, or in conjunction with with trinkets or heroism, depending on the fight.

Har · 03/17/09, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by SpydirShellX

Should you stick to your regular rotation while in Viper?
Is it better to save rapid fire for Viper or use it Early and Often?

To add to the above answer, you will want to make only two slight changes to your rotation. You will not want to refresh your sting, and you will want to use multishot instead of aimed shot if there is more than one target you're allowed to hit.

Ehud · 03/17/09, 11:12 AM

Don't you always want to use multishot over aimed shot if there is more than one target to hit, provided you are not on the move and do not need the healing debuff?

Earthway · 03/17/09, 11:44 AM

Ok simple question ..I have respeced and mimicked several from here and my gear is gaining with each raid yet I cant seem to reproduce the same dps lvls as many here ...Is my latency an issue ? I run on a good day around 800 ...Any help in this area would greatly be appreciated ...I am a 0/20/51 surv Hunter ....

Thanks in advance and Happy Hunting

Rosamonde · 03/17/09, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Earthway

Ok simple question ..I have respeced and mimicked several from here and my gear is gaining with each raid yet I cant seem to reproduce the same dps lvls as many here ...Is my latency an issue ? I run on a good day around 800 ...Any help in this area would greatly be appreciated ...I am a 0/20/51 surv Hunter ....

Thanks in advance and Happy Hunting

I can't tell much from the information you have given, but a quick look at your armory shows that you are *way* over hit-capped at 9.24% AND you have 3/3 Focused Aim. Move those points into maxing Lethal Shots as soon as possible, and replace some of your hit gear with things that will increase your crit. I am sure some of our survival hunters can give you advice on the finer points of your spec.

mako · 03/17/09, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Earthway

Ok simple question ..I have respeced and mimicked several from here and my gear is gaining with each raid yet I cant seem to reproduce the same dps lvls as many here ...Is my latency an issue ? I run on a good day around 800 ...Any help in this area would greatly be appreciated ...I am a 0/20/51 surv Hunter ....

Thanks in advance and Happy Hunting

Here's a couple areas I would suggest improving.

Spec: 6/14/51 is technically the highest dps spec. 2/18/51 is close enough to also be a viable alternative. In either build, it's acceptable to move a point (or points) from sniper training for more hunting party if your crit rating is too low to maintain a decent uptime on replenishment.

Gems: Socket 16 agility in everything. Use one green gem to meet the meta requirement for RED. If you have to match sockets, use 16 agi in red, and 8 agi 8hit/crit in yellow and the green quality (perfect) stamina/agility gems in blue.

Gear: You only need 263 hit rating. By dropping some hit gems and focused aim, you should still have enough hit to not miss vs boss level enemies. I would strongly suggest you pick up the T7.10 chest from badges to make your 2set as well. Also toss a belt buckle in your belt for another free socket.

Enchants: 6 stats to wrist is inferior to 38/50 ap. 20 agi to gloves is better than 20 hit when you have excess hit, and icewalker provides more "bang for your buck" than 16 agi (but only change this if you end up going below the hit cap)

Glyphs: Make sure to glyph IAotH, Serpent Sting and Steady Shot. There's really no other options at present. For minors FD, Revive and Mend are all nice but not mandatory.

Aëdes · 03/17/09, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by Earthway

Ok simple question ..I have respeced and mimicked several from here and my gear is gaining with each raid yet I cant seem to reproduce the same dps lvls as many here ...Is my latency an issue ? I run on a good day around 800 ...Any help in this area would greatly be appreciated ...I am a 0/20/51 surv Hunter ....

Thanks in advance and Happy Hunting

The biggest problem I see (other than what the above posters have mentioned) is your overall Haste rating.

Right now I bet your shot rotation feels like a square wheel. The way to smooth it out is with Haste. Personally I tried to do it with Haste gear, but in the end I was sacrificing too many other attributes. Plus with 3.1 on the way, it's going to be better to go with IAotH anyway.

Originally Posted by Dawnhoof

Although also Marksmanship Hunters still need some amount of Haste-Rating to reach the GCD with Steadyshot, they tend to put at least 7 points into the Beastmaster-Tree. So this is mainly adressing Survival Hunters.

In these days many Level 80 Raid specs for a Survival Hunter seem to include improved Aspect of the Hawk. Sometimes just because of the usefullness of iAotH (5/15/41 Spec) or to reach Tier 2 where you can get Focused Fire (6/14/41 or 7/13/41). Focused Fire is a quite worthy investment for your talentpoints but when you're like me not willing to sacrifice Aimed Shot for Focused Fire, you're stuck with a maximum amount of 5 points into the Beastmaster Tree, unless you do really crazy shit.

So what i wanted to know was: How much points should i spend for iAotH, which directly depends on how much haste you have on your Equipment. Reaching the GCD for Steadyshot means getting 25 % haste. So it's:

Haste by Gear * Haste by Talents * Haste by quiver/pouch = 1,25

This way you can calculate how much points you need to put into iAotH to get Steadyshot casting time down to (or below) the GCD when it proccs.

Haste	points iaoth
> 522	0
412-522	1
308-411	2
209-307	3
115-208	4
27-114	5
<27	n/a

If you take the Glyph of iAotH:

Haste	points iaoth
> 522	0 (not worth to take the glyph)
412-521	1 (but drop the glyph)
209-411	1
115-208	2
27-114	3
0-26	4

If you're next to the upper barrier of a haste-interval you might want to put one point less into iAotH and miss the GCD just by some ms.

Given your current Haste rating, I'd do the 6/14/51 posted above. Since you won't be needing the IAotH glyph, and you won't have Aimed Shot, [Item not found!] might work as your 3rd Major Glyph.

And again... things will be changing again once 3.1 gets released in it's final form, so stay tuned.

lucilebluth · 03/17/09, 5:59 PM

Originally Posted by Grungo

Hopefully this counts as a simple question... is there any way to abandon a pet from the stable? Or if I've got an exotic pet stabled, am I stuck with it in there until I respec BM to take it out to abandon it?

You can also petition a GM and they'll get rid of it for you.

alienangel · 03/18/09, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ehud

Don't you always want to use multishot over aimed shot if there is more than one target to hit, provided you are not on the move and do not need the healing debuff?

Not if you have any of the talents that improve aimedshot's damage but don't affect multishot (Sniper Training leaps to mind).

Ehud · 03/18/09, 11:24 PM

Sniper training increases aimed shot's damage by 6%, but multishot hitting 2 targets basically increases multishot's damage by 100%, and multishot hitting 3 targets basically increases multishot's damage by 200%. (crits aside)

Tygria · 03/19/09, 8:07 AM

Originally Posted by Magelove

Ok, my main since i started playing wow about a year ago was a mage, and to be perfectly honest its getting a bit tedious, standing still and casting a 2/3 button rotation every fight is not my idea of a fun class anymore, so i rolled a hunter a few weeks ago, its level 38 at the moment, iv got a couple of heirloom items which are speeding up the levelling slightly. My plans for level 80 are a MM spec, looking at it i think it would be lots of fun to play, my question: im considering making a spec that is viable for both pve and pvp, im not concerned about owning the damage meters, as long as the tanks dont beat me. Does anyone have any experience where this idea is actually viable?

Best MM Template:

Total DPS: 6171,49
Hunter DPS: 5026,17
Pet DPS: 1145,32
AP: 7604
Crit: 51,55%
Hit: 100%
ArP: 105
Shot Queue: SpS/CS/KS/AS/AimS/SS
Spec: 15/51/5
Pet: Raptor

This is pulled directly from the thread "Best Possible DPS in Shandaras WOTLK Spreadsheet" and the work was done by other hunters.

Since this information will change with 3.1 I would suggest checking that thread as you level your toon. The spreadsheet makes it easy to know you are headed in the right direction with your gear & spec choices.

And from available information Marks will be very viable next patch.