The so-called haste soft cap is, indeed, 523, but your objective isn't to reach it. You want to make sure you don't go way over it with your procs or haste buffs. (Heroism, Quick Shots, Rapid Fire, DST or Meteorite Whetstone, Potions of Speed, on-use haste trinkets).
There are two direct consequences of the haste cap:

- If you're very close to the soft cap, part of the haste you temporarily gain will go over the cap and become almost worthless. Which may restrict you from using things that otherwise seem like dps upgrades, limiting the number of ranks in AotH, etc. Having more haste than the soft cap isn't a bad thing in itself, but the dps you gain from one single point of haste is reduced to about half of what it would grant you before that.

- If you are not relatively close to it, pretty much either two haste bonuses from the list above will take you over the cap, and some of the haste loses its value. Therefore, it generally means you don't pop Rapid Fire or the haste trinket or the Potion of Speed during Heroism, like melee may do, but rather, one after the other, as soon as the one before wears off. Haste procs from IAoTH or passive effect stuff are beyond your control, and if they come up during another haste effect, you live with them and you can wait for them to wear off as well before the next on-command buff.

Hi guys I've been keeping up with the changes and looking through the threads, but I can't seem to find the new shot rotation for SV that includes black arrow. Will I just fit it in every CD or is there a more strict use for it?

I asked this question over in the 3.1 changes forum and I didn't get an answer. So I thought maybe I should have just brought the question here.

It's 'improved' AotH. It doesn't grant you the talent, it just enhances it if you have it. So in short: you need to respec and put at least 1 point into it to gain any use from the glyph.

It looks like it will have either top priority or be second only to ES.

When selecting my talents I used the spreadsheet to dictate my highest DPS choices. According to the sheet, two points in GftT provided the most DPS. If I move a point from that talent I lose anywhere from 15 to 70 DPS. However, it seems to me that it's common practice to have just one point in that talent.

Am I taking the spreadsheet too literally? Am I worrying too much about a small amount? I'd love to put that point elsewhere (another IAotH would be my preference, since my haste is so low) but I can't make myself do it when the spreadsheet so clearly says otherwise.

Opinions or advice appreciated. Thank you.

Is this DPS change with or without 25man buffs in effect? Under 25man raid buffs, your armory crit chance (31.8%) should be plenty to make one point GftT sufficient. If you're looking at your unbuffed DPS then yes, the extra focus really does make a difference

I see you've managed to spec keeping both for now (by dropping a point from Imp Stings). You could also consider taking a point out of Hunting Party instead if you're not currently having mana issues.

You may also want to modeling some different gemming choices and see if that recoups the supposed DPS loss. I realise the armoury shows you in partial pvp gear but if that's also your raid gear, you might try modeling the effect of swapping to +16 agi gems everywhere once you've met the meta gem requirements and ignoring the socketing bonuses.

I've been pouring over WWS stats for a few weeks now trying to figure out the difference between myself and the other Survival hunter in my guild.

Wow Web Stats

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Yes, it's a Loatheb fight, but I'm not terribly concerned with the overall damage number or the dps number--those things are very streaky on this fight, obviously.

What I am concerned about is the difference in the number of global cooldowns we each use. I am getting off more Explosive Shots and Aimed Shots, Serpent Sting ticks are essentially equal, but he's killing me on Auto Shot and Steady Shots. So much so that it more than makes up for what could otherwise be considered my better prioritizing. I trap-danced in this fight, but I can't imagine that's the main reason for the huge gap--Steady Shots are almost 2:1!

This pattern has repeated itself throughout a number of fights. I was concerned it was my Steady Shot/Kill Shot macro, so I tried removing Rabid/Kill Command from it, but the problem remains.

Thoughts?

WHy would you think trap dancing is not the answer to this difference. Neither auto nor steady can be fired on the move so of course his shout count is going to be higher. Maybe you need to look at how much distance you have to travel to get in/out of range to drop a trap. Even if you're moving for less than a GCD, that motion will still prevent both shots.

When looking at GftT in the spreadsheet, remember that its averaged.

The spreadsheet doesn't simulate the crits, it averages out over all your shots, so your GftT doesn't add 25/50 focus on crit in the spreadsheet, it adds X focus/sec where X is calculated from [Your Shots per second] * [Your crit %] * [GftT proc (25 or 50)]

If you have 1,2 shots per second at 37% crit rate, you get 11,1 (1/2 GftT) respectively 22,2 (2/2 GftT) focus per second to spend on abilities. Frequency and crit grabbed from my own spreadsheet. As you can see, with a pet gcd of 1.25 seconds I will on average generate 13,875 focus per gcd my pet can use from GftT alone (1/2) - combined with base regeneration (24 focus / 4 sec) and Having bestial discipline (another 24 / 4 seconds) I end up with a total focus regen of 22,48 per second - or 28,1 focus per pet gcd - plenty to have both pet special and focus dump go off every time they are up. On average.

You can find the calculations on your spreadsheets Pet Calculations tab, column E/F, Rows 29-38.

ok thanks for the reply, so this is definitely the best macro to use? I accidentally deleted my other one and i am terrible at making macros

Until 3.1 you don't need /cast !Autoshot in the macro. Having /cast Kill Shot will automatically start autoshot and other shots no longer clip it. Once 3.1 hits you'll only need /cast !Autoshot if you dont want to wait for steady shot to finish before autoshot is triggered.

Simple question: Is Agility food > Armor Pen. food for raids? I'd try the spread.s. but I do not have excel.