Elitist Jerks
Register
Blogs
Forums


Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Hunters

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04/17/09, 3:35 PM   #976
thanoisyone
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Crushridge
So i switch between BM and Survival as my 2 raiding specs, and I'm gemmed full AP for BM.. Obviously this isn't the best gems for survival.. What is everyone else doing about this? lol

Offline
Old 04/17/09, 4:24 PM   #977
mako
Don Flamenco
 
mako's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
<Bad>
Dragonmaw
Originally Posted by thanoisyone View Post
So i switch between BM and Survival as my 2 raiding specs, and I'm gemmed full AP for BM.. Obviously this isn't the best gems for survival.. What is everyone else doing about this? lol
I'm doing something similar for the time being (i.e. PvE Survival with a secondary of PvE BM).

I've opted to gem full agility, as going AP over Agi severely diminishes survival's power. At the same time, Agility gems are not so far below AP for BM that the loss is acceptable for the situations where BM has the potential to deal more damage anyway.

Really though, just gem for whichever spec you intend to use most frequently.

It's called Bloodlust, not Heroism. What kind of pansy name is Heroism, anyway?
<Bad> Dragonmaw US
www.damnwesuck.com
12/13 [25] Heroic - Recruiting exceptional players.

Offline
Old 04/17/09, 4:24 PM   #978
Nooska
King Hippo
 
Nooska's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by thanoisyone View Post
So i switch between BM and Survival as my 2 raiding specs, and I'm gemmed full AP for BM.. Obviously this isn't the best gems for survival.. What is everyone else doing about this? lol
I would sugget you decide between SV and BM and have MM be the other one.

Lots of theorycraft was done on agi vs ap and MM can use both (negligable difference) while BM wants AP and SV wanst Agi.

I have BM primary spec and MM secondary spec (and killing myself that Unleashed Rage / Abominations Might overwrite sthe timeless TSA so I can't use the TSA glyph)

Edit: Or do like Mako suggests, gem and chant for sv as BM loses less that way than SV looses the other way.

Denmark Offline
Old 04/17/09, 5:04 PM   #979
• Jessamy
Struck by Diax's Rake
 
Jessamy's Avatar
 
Troll Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Now that I can't macro Kill Shot to my other skills anymore, and with the addition of Black Arrow, there are a lot of cooldowns to manage. I enjoy the complexity this brings to the class, and it's nice to have to use Steady Shot less. I find myself a bit overwhelmed by all of the hotkeys I want immediately available on my actionbars now, though. Has anyone come up with some ingenious solution they could share? The best I've managed is an inelegant modifier macro to compress buttons.

United States Offline
Old 04/20/09, 3:53 AM   #980
Ingmar
Piston Honda
 
Ingmar's Avatar
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Originally Posted by Jessamy View Post
Now that I can't macro Kill Shot to my other skills anymore, and with the addition of Black Arrow, there are a lot of cooldowns to manage. I enjoy the complexity this brings to the class, and it's nice to have to use Steady Shot less. I find myself a bit overwhelmed by all of the hotkeys I want immediately available on my actionbars now, though. Has anyone come up with some ingenious solution they could share? The best I've managed is an inelegant modifier macro to compress buttons.
For now I just click black arrow since the timer is so obvious, same for kill shot (you'll know when you can use it). Not the best (and by no means ingenious) solution, but it works for me


Offline
Old 04/20/09, 4:20 AM   #981
Squinky001
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Silver Hand
Originally Posted by Jessamy View Post
Has anyone come up with some ingenious solution they could share?
I don't think it's ingenious but I've just remapped a few keys to make room for BA and KS as I find modifiers too clunky to get used to.

I've got Explosive, Serpent, Steady, Aimed and Multi all on my 2 through 6 keys. I've had my strafe keys rebound to T and F for a long time so I bound Kill Shot to E and Black Arrow to Z. (and rebound "sheathe/unsheathe weapon" to ctrl+Z) It feels comfortable to how I usually hold my hand on the keyboard so it's working pretty well for me. (I usually have my pinky resting on Tab for quick target switches and my ` and 1 keys are Pet Attack and Pet Follow respectively because I like being able to manage my pet without having to move my whole hand or have to click on a button as I play on a laptop.)

Offline
Old 04/20/09, 12:36 PM   #982
GwolfGarona
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Garona
My setup requires Action Bar Replacement (I use Dominos) in that I have a block in the bottom middle of my screen with my long CD abilities (stings, BA, BW, Rapid Fire, KC, Rocket-Gloves)

Then my 1 through 5 buttons are shot priorities FD, SS, KS, Multi, Volley

F and V are set Focus and assist Focus
Q and E are Mend Pet and a Mark + PetAttack Macro
Z,X,C are PetPassive, Disengage, and Detturance

That seems to minimise finger travel, can anyone improve or advise on this setup?

Offline
Old 04/20/09, 6:59 PM   #983
kpm1
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Hunter
 
Eredar
Do you really need hot keys for focus and assist focus? If you have a focus chances are that it's the tank, and you can set that up before the fight. I also don't think you need the have the Mark + PetAttack macro so close either, that's something that's applied once or twice per fight. To clear up clutter I do put some of the shots on shift modifiers (ie BA/SrS, and Kill/Multi). Another way is to get a N52, but I don't have the money.

Offline
Old 04/20/09, 10:56 PM   #984
GwolfGarona
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Garona
well i keep my pet on passive, so i need a button to tell her to attack and not necessarily attack my target, the mark is to see what my pet is attacking and I hit Z to recall my pet.

F and V are ??? for me I don't really know what I could put there.

Offline
Old 04/21/09, 1:34 AM   #985
Burks
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Warrior
 
Sen'jin
Does haste scale down the hunter GCD while casting? My GCD seems to be lower when I cast Steady Shot but I have a hunter in game telling me that haste doesn't scale your GCD down at all.

Offline
Old 04/21/09, 2:53 AM   #986
Rezdan
Don Flamenco
 
Rezdan's Avatar
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Nagrand
No, Haste does not scale down our GCD Burks.

Offline
Old 04/21/09, 3:48 AM   #987
BopMajster
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Priest
 
Kazzak (EU)
can u guys help me, wich one is better for dwarf hunter [Nerubian Conquerer] or [Golemheart Longbow]??

its very low diference in stats but golemheart have 5,8 dps more than conquerer, but with gun i have 1% more crit...?

Offline
Old 04/21/09, 6:40 AM   #988
Riemu
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Im using the Following shortcuts

AWSD strafe/walk

Q - Wyvern Sting (Fast CC Access / PVP)
E - Explosive Shot
Shift + E - Aimed Shot
ALT + E - Kill Shot
R - Black Arrow
Shift + R - Serpent Sting
F - Frost Trap
Shift + F - Freezing Trap
X - Casting Sequence Cheetah/Hawk (Kiting etc.)
Shift - X - Casting Sequence Viper/Hawk
C - Feign Death

Mouse4: Disengange/Raptor/Wing Clip Makro for stylish dodging and moving actions

Im accessing Steadyshot + Hunters Mark + Pet Stuff only via Mouseclick

Cant really handle more than those Shortcuts *g*

The 2 Stings + Instants on Keybindings makes it quite easy to shoot while walking, kiting or in PVP

Last edited by Riemu : 04/21/09 at 6:48 AM.

Offline
Old 04/21/09, 11:34 AM   #989
TrevvyTrev
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Gilneas
Originally Posted by BopMajster View Post
can u guys help me, wich one is better for dwarf hunter [Nerubian Conquerer] or [Golemheart Longbow]??

its very low diference in stats but golemheart have 5,8 dps more than conquerer, but with gun i have 1% more crit...?
Because we have no idea what your dwarf's gear and stats are overall, we couldn't answer this, and in any event it wouldn't be a "simple" answer. You'll get better results by downloading the spreadsheet and using that.

United States Offline
Old 04/21/09, 11:50 AM   #990
Sympa
Piston Honda
 
Sympa's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Terokkar
Coming back to my hunter after a long stead in the beginning for WOTLK and could use a few pointers.

In TBC survival was about steady-special-auto. Is it still the case or do you just want to spam all other shots prior to steady?

Additionally, Currently using Fortewarlock's Cooldown moniter, what ways have other hunters found of dealing with procs / Cooldowns.


Offline
Closed Thread

Go Back   Elitist Jerks » Class Mechanics » Hunters

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Death Knight: Simple Questions/Simple Answers Boethius Death Knights 2880 12/10/10 9:50 PM
[WotLK] Warrior: Simple Questions/Simple Answers Boethius Warriors 1700 12/06/10 12:17 PM
Mage: Simple Questions/Simple Answers Boethius Mages 2838 12/06/10 8:05 AM
Druid: Simple Questions/Simple Answers Balog Druids 1417 03/02/10 6:05 PM