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Old 08/18/09, 11:01 AM   #1411
Glorah
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Human Priest
 
Kargath
Trueshot Aura Falling Off?

Has anyone else ever run into the problem of Trueshot Aura apparently falling off in the middle of a fight?

I had noticed that I sometimes forget to reapply Trueshot Aura after a wipe, so I made a Power Auras effect to warn me if Trueshot Aura wasn't up. It worked fine while buffing, but, to my surprise, it starting going off during fights.

Is there any mechanic that can cause Trueshot Aura to fall off?

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Old 08/18/09, 11:16 AM   #1412
arlen
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Tauren Paladin
 
Sen'jin
Originally Posted by Glorah View Post
Has anyone else ever run into the problem of Trueshot Aura apparently falling off in the middle of a fight?

I had noticed that I sometimes forget to reapply Trueshot Aura after a wipe, so I made a Power Auras effect to warn me if Trueshot Aura wasn't up. It worked fine while buffing, but, to my surprise, it starting going off during fights.

Is there any mechanic that can cause Trueshot Aura to fall off?

Unleashed Rage from a shaman or Abominable Might from a DK both cause Trueshot Aura to disappear while you have the buff. Once the buff is gone Trueshot Aura will automatically come back. Change the PowerAuras buff name to Trueshot Aura/Abominable Might/Unleashed Rage and it won't bug you during combat but still remind you during buffing.

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Old 08/18/09, 11:20 AM   #1413
Nagisamuro
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Cho'gall
Originally Posted by Glorah View Post
Is there any mechanic that can cause Trueshot Aura to fall off?
It's the same buff as that granted by an enhancement shaman's Unleashed Rage or a blood DK's Abominable Might. Both of those buffs are procs from combat events (i.e., the shaman doesn't buff you with Unleashed Rage, he hits the mob and that procs Unleashed Rage which affects all raid members within range). So when everyone is buffing up out of combat before the pull, TSA is the only one of the three similar buffs that is present. Once combat starts, either the shaman or the DK (or both) start swinging and pretty quickly one or both of the other buffs is also present. The buffs do not stack, so the client UI only shows you one of them - TSA is not the one shown unless it is the only one present.

So you're still getting the 10% AP buff, just from a different source. And if the shaman or DK dies or goes out of range from you, your TSA will still be there. (Conversely, many hunters decide to use the talent point in TSA somewhere else instead, for this very reason.)

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Old 08/19/09, 9:07 AM   #1414
Schanaha
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Crit rating > Crit percentage

Hi guys.

I've heard rumors, that the crit chance is rounded down to the next full integer, i.e. 49,99% Crit chance would be 49% Crit chance in the game. Some warrior told me, he wouldn't have to get himself a new Crit gem because he wouldn't get the next full integer, so there would be no difference with the gem in the socket or not.

So... What's the real deal? I'm really confused. And sorry to bother you with my stupid question.

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Old 08/19/09, 10:47 PM   #1415
Rezdan
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Nagrand
This is not the case Schanaha. Your warrior may have been confusing Crit and Hit. During 3.1, Hit transfered to our Pets only in full percentages. This meant that the last 0.01% of Hit to get to the next full percentage had arguably the most worth. Crit does not get rounded down to the next full integer.

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Old 08/20/09, 11:14 AM   #1416
netbeast
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Jaedenar (EU)
I hope this question applies to this toppic, since it is more connected to the spreadsheet.
Can somebody please explain to me why the hunter spreadsheet assumes I will get greater dps in MM spec (about 300dps increase) with Focused Aim, rather than with Improved Arcane shot if I am hitcapped? (Is it connected to steady shot and intensive fights, which means I can suffer from pushback?)

And the second thing is:
is there a sequence of trinket proccing, or why is the sequence of trinkets so special.
(When I have Darkmoon Card: greatness equipped in 1st slot and DC: Death in the second, they hardly even show up in the spreadsheet, if I swap them, they show up and are almost BiS)

(Edit: Just confirmed myself, that total DPS increases rather A LOT if you switch from improved arcane shot 3/3 to focused aim 3/3, leaving the arcane shot blank. My burst dmg (did tests on a heroic training dummy only with Hunter's mark, no other debuffs) is really smaller with arcane shot talented - chimera shot: serpent crits are smaller in damage, serpent sting gets resisted more. Does somebody have an explanation for that? Me and a friend did some theorycrafting and could it be connected to the spell hit cap? With Focused Aim spell hit is capped.)

Last edited by netbeast : 08/20/09 at 11:43 AM.

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Old 08/20/09, 12:13 PM   #1417
Hirgux
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Blackhand (EU)
Does your char get more dps with focused aim, or your pet?
Because if hitcapped, only your pet's dps could/should change with focused aim.

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Old 08/20/09, 12:39 PM   #1418
Zeel
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Vek'nilash (EU)
Originally Posted by netbeast View Post
Can somebody please explain to me why the hunter spreadsheet assumes I will get greater dps in MM spec (about 300dps increase) with Focused Aim, rather than with Improved Arcane shot if I am hitcapped?
I assume that if your latency permits, you can squeeze 4 Steadies in between chimera/aimed and that way
benefit more of your possible ArP. Arcane Shot, dealing nature damage, is probably considered inferior
as you can't use 4 x Steady, which benefit more from ArP.
Also (theres a trhead about the issue somewhere here) improved Steady Shot procs are quite a big boost to
your primary shots and Arcane Shot doesn't proc that talent.

I've got better results on spreadsheet too when I dropped Arcane from my "rotation" completely.

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Old 08/20/09, 7:19 PM   #1419
beilah
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Orc Hunter
 
Dunemaul
Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me with the best dps spreadsheet, it wont do any of the commands that require importing data such as gear and talents, and loading my character. The bottons do nothing when I click them. Has anyone had that problem?

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Old 08/21/09, 12:57 AM   #1420
 promdates
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Turalyon
Check above the cells, see if you see something that says "Security Warning Some active content has been disabled. [Options]". If so, click options and click "Enable this content".


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Old 08/21/09, 8:22 AM   #1421
cigs
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Tauren Hunter
 
Alonsus (EU)
Can someone tell me how Misdirect works with Volley?

Is it it the first 3 tics on every mob?
The first 3 tics on one mob?
The the first tic on 3 separate mobs?

Some other unfathomable interpretation of the ability.

Thanks.

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Old 08/21/09, 8:31 AM   #1422
Pijn
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by cigs View Post
Can someone tell me how Misdirect works with Volley?

Is it it the first 3 tics on every mob?
The first 3 tics on one mob?
The the first tic on 3 separate mobs?

Some other unfathomable interpretation of the ability.

Thanks.
It's the first tick of the entire Volley, no matter how many mobs it hits. So if the tank pulls 7 mobs, and you MD him followed by Volley, all 7 mobs will have threat of 1 Volley tick misdirected to the tank. All other volley ticks after it will be your threat.

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Old 08/21/09, 3:07 PM   #1423
DerailedThread
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Antonidas
Which piece of t9 should I invest in first? Really hard to decide since there is nothing in the BIS thread that indicates which is best.. I currently use t8 2 set(head/body). I have the hands too. I have badges for any piece.

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Old 08/21/09, 6:33 PM   #1424
 promdates
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Turalyon
If you're marks, which I assume you are since you mentioned only using 2pT8 (Head/chest). You'll eventually replace those 2 items with your T9 as our current BiS setup has head/chest t9 and no others.

Using the spreadsheet could show you which would be the better upgrade. Although, I personally wouldn't replace either until you have both (so you go from one bonus to the other). If you're using just badges to get your tier, should look into either the ring or the shoulders. Shoulders are MM BiS, ring is pretty high up as well. If you're asking about using your trophy+badges, should probably check the spreadsheet and see.


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Old 08/22/09, 3:18 PM   #1425
tadasbladas
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Hellscream (EU)
hello, as one hunter posted in previous page, hunter dps in 25man raids should be somewhere about 7k and i personally believe that. at first i changed my gemming and items a bit to favor ArP and dropped arcane from my rotation; the result wasnt overwhelming so i thought that my fps was a problem (had about 4 fps during 25m fights), i reduced the number of addons i was using and defragmented HD, this increased my fps to ~12 during fights. but still during for example ignis i only did 6,2k ( was at 6,6k all the fight but then got potted at the very end). i just dont know what else could be the problem, my rotation seems pretty solid to me(cs-as-sts until cs), i may make some odd mistake now and then but still... the only possible explanation for me is latency, i`m playing at ~130ms to 200ms during raids so i would like to ask those 7k hitting hunters is this ok and do you have similar latencies or are yours way lower?

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