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Old 12/09/08, 9:56 AM   #151
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
Originally Posted by Macloud View Post
I don't understand why people are so worried a nerf is incoming. Our PVE dmg is highly dependant on a spec that's only remotely viable in a strict PvE environment. So what that the boss dies 2 min faster with 4 BM hunters in a raid instead of 2? The fact remains that Blizzard tends to balance things around Arena. We all know it's true. Given that pets are still balloon animals in arenas in terms of their survivability, I don't see a reason for Blizzard to lower our raid DPS any lower than it was with the removal of our benefit from Windfury (ranged haste benefit for those that don't remember or didn't read patch notes)
Since they have mentioned it could be a reason to be worried?

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> GC Please read the Hunter Arena thread.

Now, I am not certain what they could nerf that wouldn't hit Arena as well, aside from Scorpid scaling. And to be honest, that's fair enough. It is a Tenacity pet it isn't supposed to go in and do 3k+ DPS (and beating the Hunter hands down). Yeah, it's fun, but really, it just isn't perfectly right.

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Old 12/09/08, 10:35 AM   #152
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In regards to the Blue post on upcoming PvE Hunter nerfs, it's really not worth speculating what will be changed until more information is released to us.

It hasn't been specified if it's targeted at the class as a whole, or more focused on a particular tree. For all we know, the next set of changes could be as mild as the last were.

It's called Bloodlust, not Heroism. What kind of pansy name is Heroism, anyway?
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Old 12/09/08, 12:08 PM   #153
Mixe
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Wildhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by mako View Post
In regards to the Blue post on upcoming PvE Hunter nerfs, it's really not worth speculating what will be changed until more information is released to us.

It hasn't been specified if it's targeted at the class as a whole, or more focused on a particular tree. For all we know, the next set of changes could be as mild as the last were.
Personally I think we'll see a nerf in BM damage in exchange for some pvp/arena buffs. On another note, is anyone else finding DKs in their Guild doing pretty good DPS? I was surprised.

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Old 12/09/08, 12:21 PM   #154
Mattaos
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Originally Posted by Mixe View Post
Personally I think we'll see a nerf in BM damage in exchange for some pvp/arena buffs. On another note, is anyone else finding DKs in their Guild doing pretty good DPS? I was surprised.
A BM hunter's DPS is where it should be, except for the heightened damage being put out by a couple specific pets. Reducing the player's damage would be an odd choice for Devs to nerf if they are not wanting to also nerf PvP game play in the process. Besides, not a single account on any forum relating to BM DPS in early WotLK raiding has mentioned how a BM hunter is doing insane damage. The comments have been almost 100% centered on the Scorpid and sometimes the Cat.

Also, this might be a much better place to direct your DK questions Death Knights - Elitist Jerks

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Old 12/22/08, 7:53 PM   #155
Khoradim
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Dwarf Hunter
 
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Nerubian vs Drake-Mounted

A short question:
Just upgraded from Drake-Mounted Crossbow to Nerubian Conquerer. I noticed my critical-strike chance dropping by around 1%, although as dwarf I expected it to go up due to racial gun bonus. Suspected some change to the racial, but my spellbook still says 1% more crit with guns.

Bug? Stupid dwarf?

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Old 12/22/08, 9:17 PM   #156
Tapout
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Korgath
Originally Posted by Khoradim View Post
A short question:
Just upgraded from Drake-Mounted Crossbow to Nerubian Conquerer. I noticed my critical-strike chance dropping by around 1%, although as dwarf I expected it to go up due to racial gun bonus. Suspected some change to the racial, but my spellbook still says 1% more crit with guns.

Bug? Stupid dwarf?
Odds are your gun skill isn't maxed.

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Old 01/01/09, 11:20 AM   #157
Schanaha
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Die Silberne Hand (EU)
Sorry to ask this question, but I'm a little bit confused.

Someone told me, as a BM you would have to get 10 to 11% of haste to maximize your dps. So, as I know that with every single point of haste a BM just increases the damage of Autoshots, I wonder why I should get haste instead of other attributes like Critrating, AP or Agility (maybe last, but not least Armor-Penetration).

Is there a cap, where one point of haste is worth to drop one point of the other attributes? Or is the guy who told me that simply mistaken?

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Old 01/01/09, 11:35 AM   #158
Ketari
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Alonsus (EU)
Originally Posted by Schanaha View Post
Is there a cap, where one point of haste is worth to drop one point of the other attributes? Or is the guy who told me that simply mistaken?
They're mistaken. MM and SV need haste on their gear, BM does not.

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Old 01/01/09, 5:25 PM   #159
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Originally Posted by Mixe View Post
Personally I think we'll see a nerf in BM damage in exchange for some pvp/arena buffs. On another note, is anyone else finding DKs in their Guild doing pretty good DPS? I was surprised.
Our DK's do extremely well, they're always near the top unless we have more than 1 rogue in the raid.

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Old 01/06/09, 11:27 AM   #160
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Maybe I'm just completely retarded and will never amount to anything.. but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to work this spreadsheet. I can't push any of the import/export save/load buttons, I can't select or deselect any of the check boxes either. Do I have to do something to the file before it will work properly for me?


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Old 01/06/09, 11:35 AM   #161
Faerdael
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Gilneas
You need to Enable Macros. You may get a prompt to allow this when launching the spreadsheet. If not, then go to Tools / Macros / Security and set the level to at least medium and try restarting the spreadsheet. You should then get an option to enable them.

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Old 01/06/09, 12:55 PM   #162
Dibbler
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Dalvengyr
With all the changes that are upcoming am I correct in stating that the preference for shots will be:

MM - Sting>Chimera>Arcane>Steady to fill the voids
SV - Sting>ES> Aimed > Steady to fill the void (Ar and ES on same cooldown)
BM - Sting>Arcane>Aimed(?)>Steady

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Old 01/08/09, 9:19 AM   #163
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For MM you want to include Aimed Shot into your rotation. If you take the Barrage talents and the Trueshot Glyph it will be you second most damaging shot. In all other cases Multishot will do the same damage as Aimed (single target) and cost roughly the same mana, which is why you don't need to use or even spec for it as BM/SV.

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Old 01/08/09, 9:27 AM   #164
Cilithan
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Originally Posted by Schniepel View Post
For MM you want to include Aimed Shot into your rotation. If you take the Barrage talents and the Trueshot Glyph it will be you second most damaging shot. In all other cases Multishot will do the same damage as Aimed (single target) and cost roughly the same mana, which is why you don't need to use or even spec for it as BM/SV.
The reason I gladly spent one point in Aimed Shot as a SV Hunter is because of the fact that it is instant where Multi-shot is not (unless something changed and I missed it, its on a 0.5 sec casttime). There is a lot of movement in instances and raids, especially when youre trying to trapdance. Aimed leads to a dps increase particularly because of the fact that it is another instant shot to use.

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Old 01/08/09, 9:50 AM   #165
Schniepel
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Sure, Aimed Shot has advantages over Multi Shot, for instance being 'truly' instant, healing debuff and costing slightly less mana. OTOH Multi has its merits too, doing way more damage in multi target situations and being glyphable to 9 sec CD, which aligns a lot better to GCD capped rotations than 10. So yes, YMMV, but normally you don't need to take Aimed shot.

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