The Simple Things - Quick F.A.Q for All Specs - Page 12

lucky98 · 01/12/09, 9:03 PM

This is slightly off topic but i was curious, does the darkmoon card greatness proc stack with or override the proc from the mirror of truth. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but i hadn't seen it and wanted to make sure that an investment into the darkmoon card deck was worth it lol.

Rezdan · 01/12/09, 9:09 PM

No, of course it doesn't override a different proc from a different trinket.

Lilbitters · 01/12/09, 9:32 PM

Originally Posted by lucky98

This is slightly off topic but i was curious, does the darkmoon card greatness proc stack with or override the proc from the mirror of truth. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but i hadn't seen it and wanted to make sure that an investment into the darkmoon card deck was worth it lol.

They're two different buffs and both can be proc'd at the same time while not overwriting.

cammyboy · 01/13/09, 6:04 AM

I'm currently specced 50/21/0 BM taking advantage of the readiness "loophole" before the patch comes in to prevent this. I'm actually looking forward to the so called hunter nerfs, particularly the much anticipated buffs to exotic pets. As a result i will be trying a full BM spec with 3/3 cobra strikes and the 51st exotic pet point. I have already caught the spirit beast but much to my dismay it is terrible dps, however, with the rumoured Spirits Beast's capabilty to be able to crit on the first part of Spirit strike amongst other benefits, i was wondering whether cobra strikes will affect its special move, or for that matter, any crittable "special move"? So in short, can cobra strikes affect a pets "special move" such as Monstrous Bite or Spirit Strike (if Spirit Strike can indeed crit) or will CS merely affect a pets aggro dump standard attack such as claw and rake etc? It would be nice to have a 60% chance of a guaranteed spirit strike crit if CS is able to affect "special moves".

eviln1 · 01/13/09, 6:36 AM

Cobra strikes will affect the next 2 special attacks. It can be either the focus dump ability or the species specific ability. You could probably increase the chance of one charge being used on Spirit Strike (or any other ability) by not taking GFTT - but that would severely nerf your pet's DPS in the long run.

Blorg · 01/13/09, 6:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dibbler

With all the changes that are upcoming am I correct in stating that the preference for shots will be:

MM - Sting>Chimera>Arcane>Steady to fill the voids
SV - Sting>ES> Aimed > Steady to fill the void (Ar and ES on same cooldown)
BM - Sting>Arcane>Aimed(?)>Steady

SV - explosive shot first if it's not on cooldown, as far as I can tell from the 3.08 ptr thread. The damage you lose on not having noxious stings up plus the serpent sting tick damage is less than the the damage you would lose by delaying your ES by one GCD.

(edit: as the post below points out, most of the discussion on this is in 3.08 ptr changes, not the survival thread)

Fierra · 01/13/09, 7:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rezdan

There's some discussion of whether or not to prioritize Serpent Sting and I think consensus is leaning towards the idea that the bonus from Noxious Stings doesn't justify delaying an Explosive Shot or Kill Shot.

Originally Posted by Esoth

If explosive shot is off cooldown as serpent sting fades, you are basically asking if the DPCT of serpent sting and the 3% boost to a single explosive will be worth pushing a 6 second rotation back 1.5 seconds (GCD) - a 25% personal (non-pet) penalty. I can't imagine this ever being worthwhile. On the other hand, you could view this as: serpent sting fell off and I've got just under 1.5 seconds before explosive is back off cooldown.

3.0.8 PTR Changes has talked about it quite a bit.

Khassandra · 01/20/09, 3:02 PM

I have not seen this addressed anywhere and I apologize if it has been and I missed it.

With the changes in 3.0.8 hitting today to Steady Shot and Arcane Shot (as well as the supporting AS changes such as FI), doesn't that now increase the importance of 5/5 Mortal Shots and 2/2 Rapid Killing? I'm trying to tweak my talents (while staying BM) to provide for the necessary inclusion of AS now. Imp AS is a given, of course, but would 2 points be greater dps in Rapid Killing or in Imp Tracking now?

Iru · 01/20/09, 3:49 PM

Every time I have modelled it, Improved Tracking always outweighs Rapid Killing. That said, I have found that Improved stings provides more DPS that Improved Arcane Shot, particularly with the Serpent Sting glyph

Hashash · 01/23/09, 11:30 PM

OK I'm in a bit of a quandary, I have 3 trinkets to choose from [Mirror of Truth] no brainer, my toss up is between either [Mighty Alchemist's Stone] or [Loatheb's Shadow]. Trying to figure out if the constant 100 AP (actually I get 110ap when I equip it) is better than the 670 every 2min. Here is my current gear and spec The World of Warcraft Armory

Brutalus · 01/23/09, 11:42 PM

The spread sheet is your friend.

Hashash · 01/24/09, 4:55 AM

I would luv to use the spread sheet but for some reason I am having huge issues with exel and am not able to get it to work atm. So, if anyone out there could plug my data into to it and give me some results I would be greatly in their debt. My main pet is a cat, secondary pet is a wasp.