I'm using a Worm for a tanking pet (for flavor...I'm not a fan of the gorillas really) and thus far its performed admirably. Tanking aside, their appears to be a problem with Autocast priority. When leaving both Charge and Acid Spit on autocast, the pet will stutter step its way to the boss until it hits 30 yards and then Spits, after which it Charges. Ideally I would rather have it Charge, then AS, rather than vice versa.

I have a workaround, however would appreciate if anyone would inform me of something simpler:

Followed by:

This works, although its kind of a pain at times.

Question about BM. Is it worth it to use anything other than Steady/Auto or should Serpent Sting be worked in? I've found random mentions of Serpent Sting when discussing BM DPS but nothing solid about rotations. This is if someone else is using Serpent Sting, so you get the benefits of the Steady Shot glyph regardless.

This could be a very silly question but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has wondered about it without taking the time to test it. For the sake of the 1st tier Survival talent (Improved Tracking), can we assume a mob with Hunter's Mark on it is considered as being "tracked"? In other words, do I need to actually switch what I'm tracking based on the boss or will HM do the work for me?

You need to actively track the target. Mark just marks it on your minimap, it doesn't track in that sense.

I was under the impression (after reading the WOTLK-discussion for a long time) that it has to be YOUR sting on the target to get the bonus from the glyph. After searching the thread now, I wasn't able to relocate that information.
Can anyone clear that up for me please?

edit: I have finally found the post from a hunter who tested it in the big WOTLK-thread here: Steady Shot Glyph - unfortunately no logs - I would be very interested in a definite answer.

Hi,

Great ressource, I think there is an error in the hit cap calculation though:

Simple typo by the looks of it, but worth correcting

I've updated the various typos. Thanks for picking them up. Even the little ones that account for a tenth of a percent can still throw off a formula down the line by large amounts.
In the end, there is no definitive "X% [+DPS Stat] > 1% Hit". The reason for this is that 1% to hit when you have 8.5% to hit is worth slightly less than 1% hit when you have 4% to hit. If you need to compare two items, and see which is of greater value to you in the overall context of your specific gear, you need to plug your numbers into the spreadsheet. There really is no magic formula that will accurately compare two specific items while ignoring all of the other armor slots.
The actual DPS difference between the pets is too close to call right now. There are too many variables that we can't account for in a formula to definitely say which pet is the pet for non-BM and for BM hunters. I've not run with a scorpid before, so perhaps someone can start a thread about using your pets effectively. Or, posting in this thread would be a better place.
Be careful with a macro like this. GC has said that he recognizes that hunters can spam Aspects and do a sort of "aspect twisting" they very much do not want us doing. Hints have been posted that if hunters are
"aspect twisting" too much, they will revert Aspects back to how they were if they can't find another solution. As such, I will refrain from posting macros that actively encourage "aspect twisting".


On Steady Shot Glyph
Before we have more speculation being passed all around, will someone please test this, posting both the person's WWS/CombatLog who has the Steady Shot Glyph, and the person who does not have the glyph. That way we can get a definitive answer. Until we have definitive, conclusive results... please, no more hearsay.

Ratings to pets
Has anyone been able to find a listing of the direct conversions of Critical Strike % from hunter to pet?
Also, does Stamina or Health Pool transfer to the pet, and at what rate?
I know Attack Power transfers at 22% Hunter -> Pet. Hit transfers at 100% Hunter -> Pet.
Haste, ArPen, Expertise, Defense and Resilience do not transfer.
(in fact, I'll add this info to the top post)

You cant make order of stats in percent, since all of them have different ratings and therefore a different amount of spent itempoints for 1%.
The question would be more like:
50 Crit rating (1.089%) ? 50 Hit rating (1.525%) ? 50 ArPen rating (3.248%)
whereas ? stands for either <, > or =.

But even thats not accurate since ArPen is such a special stat. If you fight a NPC with 16k armor (~51% DR) 50 ArPen rating will give you more benefit compared to fighting a NPC with only 4k armor and 50 ArPen rating.

Do we have any accurate boss armor values? I was searching in the general forum, but those formulas and results were all pre-WLK.

I've learned to love the hunter spreadsheet I found so intimidating, so I now have the answers I was looking for. Realistically, there can't be a rule of thumb as to which stats will increase DPS the most because it will change drastically based on too many variables to be calculated without the spreadsheet.

I would love to see these too- how are they discovered? Is there an ability like beast lore that will give you an accurate number for bosses? If not, how did they get the BC numbers?

It will be a while before we get these values. Mostly because we need an enormous sample size to make sure the statistical margin of error is minimal.
Basically, we know that XX armor = YY% reduction in physical damage.
So, without any other debuffs, if a shot does RR-SS Damage on paper, but does PP-QQ Damage on the boss, we can calculate his armor from there.

Oh I was unaware of that, I'll edit out my original post, I'd rather not contribute to that either.