The Simple Things - Quick F.A.Q for All Specs - Page 3

Mixe · 11/24/08, 3:11 PM

Hello there. I am experiencing problems with my Devilsaur turning Growl on itself. I specifically turn it off autocast before I enter an instance, yet somehow my pet STILL Growls and turns autocast back on.

Obviously my Guild-mates do not believe me. And I am sure many of you are pretty skeptical about the whole thing. But it's proving to be rather annoying.

So is this a known bug? Or is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening?

Byuu · 11/24/08, 3:15 PM

I am currently testing specs in raids, atm BM with ultimate and a Devilsaur.

I had some problems with Rabid/Monstrous Bite... Is there a priority list in the server queue for specials? sometimes, pet is on 100 focus, monstrous bite is off cd and it just wont cast. Same with rabid.

I tried it macroed and on auto cast, both seemed a bit buggy. Rabid macroed and MB on autocast seemed to work well.. but not really perfect. How do you do it?

btw, in some encounters the cat of our other hunter simply outdps'd my Devilsaur, simply because of rake.

heritikyl · 11/24/08, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mixe

Hello there. I am experiencing problems with my Devilsaur turning Growl on itself. I specifically turn it off autocast before I enter an instance, yet somehow my pet STILL Growls and turns autocast back on.

Obviously my Guild-mates do not believe me. And I am sure many of you are pretty skeptical about the whole thing. But it's proving to be rather annoying.

So is this a known bug? Or is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening?

This is a known bug, basically you just have to check that Growl (and anything else you don't want on autocast) is not on autocast when you enter the instance, since phasing into instances and such seems to reset the autocast state. You could set up a macro to turn certain skills off of autocast and hit it when you enter the instance. You can also put those abilities you don't want on autocast on your pet bar, since those that are on the pet bar retain their autocast state whilst phasing in / out of instances. It's an odd and annoying bug, yes.

Aerynlore · 11/24/08, 3:21 PM

Mattaos · 11/24/08, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mixe

Hello there. I am experiencing problems with my Devilsaur turning Growl on itself. I specifically turn it off autocast before I enter an instance, yet somehow my pet STILL Growls and turns autocast back on.

Obviously my Guild-mates do not believe me. And I am sure many of you are pretty skeptical about the whole thing. But it's proving to be rather annoying.

So is this a known bug? Or is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening?

Place every pet ability you want to have turned "off" on your petbar. Toggle the abilities and they will remain off regardless of phasing in/out of instances, i.e. Growl, Cower, Prowl, Pet Special (that is macro'd like CotW), etc... Then just leave all the other abilities in your spellbook toggled "on" to autocast. Problem solved.

Nzambi · 11/24/08, 4:51 PM

Real quick question:

Do the t6 4 piece and the SS glyph stack? According to the spreadsheet it appears that they do. (seeing as how it counts a loss of dps when i exchange my t6 chest for a naxx-25 one) But i have a very hard time believing this is true. I just dont see a reason why blizz would give us an incentive to hold onto old gear that long.

KergeKacsa · 11/24/08, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nzambi

Real quick question:

Do the t6 4 piece and the SS glyph stack? According to the spreadsheet it appears that they do. (seeing as how it counts a loss of dps when i exchange my t6 chest for a naxx-25 one) But i have a very hard time believing this is true. I just dont see a reason why blizz would give us an incentive to hold onto old gear that long.

Tested, T6 4 piece bonus and SS glyps ARE stacking.

Aerynlore · 11/24/08, 5:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nzambi

Real quick question:

Do the t6 4 piece and the SS glyph stack? According to the spreadsheet it appears that they do. (seeing as how it counts a loss of dps when i exchange my t6 chest for a naxx-25 one) But i have a very hard time believing this is true. I just dont see a reason why blizz would give us an incentive to hold onto old gear that long.

According to Jaffi's Tests they do indeed stack. We'll see if Blizzard decides to change this in the next patch, but as of today (and Jaffi's findings) they do stack.

This has been added to the F.A.Q's in the Original Post.

Vegelus · 11/25/08, 8:23 AM

Originally Posted by Nzambi

Real quick question:

Do the t6 4 piece and the SS glyph stack? According to the spreadsheet it appears that they do. (seeing as how it counts a loss of dps when i exchange my t6 chest for a naxx-25 one) But i have a very hard time believing this is true. I just dont see a reason why blizz would give us an incentive to hold onto old gear that long.

Then check Beast-tamer's Shoulders - for BMs still being an upgrade over Northrend gear.

Incredible · 11/25/08, 10:40 AM

Hello and thanks for the great FAQ. I have a question regarding:

"Beast Master hunters need no Haste on gear to reach the 1.5s Steady Shot threshold."

What do you mean by this ? A beast master hunter cannot get a faster SS than 1.5s ? I have seen faster SS (0.9sec) or similar when using trinkets that increase haste. Am I mistaken?

Thanks!

Aerynlore · 11/25/08, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Incredible

"Beast Master hunters need no Haste on gear to reach the 1.5s Steady Shot threshold."

What do you mean by this ? A beast master hunter cannot get a faster SS than 1.5s ? I have seen faster SS (0.9sec) or similar when using trinkets that increase haste. Am I mistaken?

With Serpent's Swiftness (and Quiver/Ammo Pouch), BM hunters already have a Steady Shot that casts faster than 1.5s; hence, they need to additional haste from gear to get below the 1.5s threshold.

Har · 11/25/08, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Incredible

"Beast Master hunters need no Haste on gear to reach the 1.5s Steady Shot threshold."

[...]I have seen faster SS (0.9sec) or similar when using trinkets that increase haste. Am I mistaken?

Yep. Haste does not speed up our global cooldown- you won't be able to cast any more steady shots per minute with a 0.9 second shot than you would with a 1.4 second shot.

Incredible · 11/25/08, 11:06 AM

So haste only affects autoshot and not SS ? I guess haste is a priority stat for a BM hunter..

Xaraphyne · 11/25/08, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Incredible

So haste only affects autoshot and not SS ? I guess haste is a priority stat for a BM hunter..

No, what they're saying is, there's no reason to get Steady below 1.5 sec. The global cooldown is 1.5 sec so you can't cast Steady Shot more than once every 1.5 sec anyway.

So as a BM hunter, haste will not have as marked an effect on your DPS because between quiver haste and Serpent's Swiftness, your Steady cast time is already below 1.5 sec. It will continue to speed up your Auto Shot so it's not worthless, but haste is best when your Steady has not yet dropped to 1.5 sec.

King-Slide · 11/25/08, 11:18 AM

bm hunters are already below the 1.5 sec cap for steady. this means that they only haste their autoshots. a big bunch of bm dps comes from the pet and neither haste, nor hasted autoshots affect your pet.