Laxxz

Has anyone else had massive problems with the devilsaur hitbox in regards to sartharion?, I have not once been able to get my devilsaur to dodge the lava wall with me.

 

Lerastes

I was having that problem a few days ago. The only way I could get my Devilsaur to live through that fight was to call him back during lava walls and position him as best as I could. He got hit by almost all of them so I preemptively cast Mend Pet, and with his talents and a few Prayer of Mending bounces, he lived through most of them. The only time he didn't was when he got hit by a tail swipe right before the lava wall.

 

Osse

-Your hit is transferred completely to your pet, even if it comes from the talent Focused Aim in the marks tree.


For some reason when I have 3+6.13% my pet shows 2.8% miss rate which is almost exactly what it should be with 6.13% hit. However, when I'm wearing zero hit my pet misses 6% of it's attacks so focused aimed does and does not work. Is there some kind of mechanic that if players hit rating value is above 3% hit (with 3/3 focused aim) the pet will not gain it's hit percentage from the talent + hit rating but instead it only picks hit from hit rating?

Both times I let the pet attack for ~3000 times.

 

Dralmoo

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Osse

Call of the wild stacks with trueshot aura. In fact multiple call of the wilds stack.

 

KraxisSingular

You know, over at BRK there has been some reports of the the player not needing 9% hit for bossdummies. But at the same times the pet not getting that benefit.
Personally I think somehing isn't right with the dummies, for the mechanic seems to be working correctly for normal fights.

 

Nekondas

Devilsaurs are cool big pets.....but not for riding. I was playing some time with one and it made me so much problems that i had to change for cat. ENORMOUS hitbox is real pain on trash mobs because your pet can pull mobs from other rooms (wtf ?) trying to position himself at the targets back.
On boss fight it was better but stil, other people in raid wasnt happy that my devilsaur is blocking half of theirs view.
For some reason sometimes my pet was stopping to attack, mostly after bloodlust + bestail wrath combo.
I hope blizzard fix this and introduce some exotic pets that will be really better than normal ones, not only loking more "cool"

 

Esoth

Does anyone know if any of our dodge from monkey/dragonhawk is transferred to pets? I've been pondering if 1/3 Aspect of the Monkey is better than 1/5 Endurance... might help for pets staying in a whirlwind?

 

lucilebluth

Yes...I was able to pull him out of a couple waves, but I wasn't able to keep him alive reliably. One thing that helped was putting him on follow, then running towards the left or right edge of sartharion's island (looking forward when you zone in), so that he was in the center of the safe zone. I'll try a cat next reset, to see if its any easier.

 

MetallicaRulez0

I used my Wasp this week, and it was noticeably easier to keep him out of the lava compared to the Devilsaur. It seems that Monstrous Bite causes the Devilsaur's hit box to grow way, way out of proportion to what it should be. Someone should report this on the official forums.

 

Vegelus

Dodge isn't transferred to pets, no matter how obtained. So 1/5 is still better as a filler (till time that AotB beats IAotH completly, when it might be 5/5 Endurance)

 

Vvix

Hi all, been browsing these forums for some time now, and finally got around to asking a question, hope it's not deemed too stupid :S Would just like to say I really appreciate treads like these, very informative.

Anyways, I haven't had much luck with drops in heroics so far, so I've had to settle for some epic leather items with expertise. Here's my question: does expertise transfer to pets? Not that I would ever go for such items, but maybe I could feel a little better about my bad luck

/best regards

 

Aerynlore

Expertise does not transfer to your pet.
Neither does Haste or Armor Penetration.

Also, can we get in the original post a quick response about the auto-casting re-enabling bug, and if you put the skills on your pet bar, then it won't change?

For example, I keep Growl and Cower on my bars, and depending on the pet, I'll keep Heart of the Phoenix, Call of the Wild, Stampede, or any other ability that I don't want to auto-fire all the time.

 

Har

Nope, sorry. Expertise is of extremely limited use to a hunter- it's melee only and does not get passed on to your pet. The only way to get expertise for your pet is through Animal Handler in the beast master tree.

 

Shaâden

Hello !

We will have our first try on Malygos 10-men tonight.

I've seen on a forum that the pet was often bugged on this fight.
May I ask if some of you experienced this problem ? what problem is it excatly? and how to solve it eventually ?

And finally: should we avoid BM hunter and prefer some other ranged DPS if we try to get the best setup we can in order to optimize our chance to get a first down ?

Thx in advance.

 

Hioney

Put your pet on defensive mode and it wont bugg on Malygos, atleast on the 25man encounter.
I don't see why a hunter would not be better than any other class, you only need dps for phase 1, phase 2 is aoed mostly and p3 is another story..

And the problem lie within the ability when he tosses the raid into the air and when you land your pet does not spawn, or just stands still not hitting the boss even if you press attack, you need to put it on passive so it "teleports" right next to you and then you send it in,, putting on defensive "solves" this in most cases.

 

Amnonongus

This is ATM, being proven wrong. Hit is transfered, but your character sheet hit. Your pet is NOT affected by any points into FA.

Hit rating

That, as well as the supposed hit cap being 9%

Seems to be 8%

 

Æthien

Quoting myself in the hit thread.
My pet appeared to still have a 9% chance to miss.
edit: if I don't end up hopping from heroic to heroic tonight I'll do a longer test to see if this is a rare weirdness or something else.

 

Namarus

Pet Scaling seems to indicate that expertise does indeed transfer to the pet. However, I haven't seen any conclusive proof either way.

 

Kkyle

If FA does not affect a pets chance to hit, then this is a serious nerf to the talent. Especially for BM hunters.

Given the fact that pets are doing 45% or more of a BM hunters damage, that would reduce the value of the talent by almost half.

It would make FA fall well short of the 1% dps increase per talent point that is typically require of a good talent.

So I would assume BM hunters will now want to hit cap themselves via +hit?

 

Æthien

More testing, more than double the expertise (76 rating, or 9 expertise now), got rid of all gear with hit, and shot some stuff myself too.
Also a much longer test, 3170 attacks from me, 5922 from my pet.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...en/hittest.jpg

1/3 Focused Aim, 0 hit rating, so 1% hit for me.
2/2 animal handler, 9 expertise on me.

Pet: 24% glancing, 19.6% crit, 6.8% miss, 4.2% dodged.
That seems to suggest that a: expertise for me does nothing for my pet and b: Focused aim works
I think Osse said this earlier, currently FA seems to work if you have no hit, but stops working when you do get hit.
(I am guessing that the hit from gear is overwriting hit from FA for the pet in some strange way.)

Me: 7.1% crit (a 6% loss from my character screen crit %) 6.8% miss.
The loss of crit looks a lot to me... but I haven't done much research on that.
The % of misses confirms 8% chance to miss a raidboss.

 

Mattaos

Good test and information. The extremely low crit rate from you is not out of the ordinary though since your hit chance was also extremely low. Hit chance also affects your crit, since some of those misses might have been crits according to the RNG.

 

Æthien

Yeah, I thought about that, but that would be roughly 7% less crits.
But then I'd still end up at 12% and a bit crit, and it's still 5% loss of crits.
It could of course just be RNG screwing with me because the test is nowhere near large enough to exclude that.

 

sihyunie

I thought ranged attacks were on one table, instead of 2 like spells. This would mean that you should crit whatever your crit % says, and miss only takes away non-crit hits.
For example, if you have 20% crit and 95% hit chance, you would miss 5%, crit 20%, and hit 75% of the time, instead of miss 5%, crit 18%, and hit 77%.
This information is really old though, and I never bothered checking it again (just like I assumed that the hit cap is 9% against mobs 3 levels higher).
Either way, I think you have been just extremely unlucky. Also, when testing low % chance, small sample size will more likely tamper the data, so just have to get larger sample to get more confidence.

 

Mixe

Atm I'm getting slightly annoyed with the insanely large hitbox on my pet. As it still stands, my pet can sometimes pull undeeded mobs/trash due to his humungous size. Blizzard need to have a think about this I think.

However, my pet has been useful on at least one boss; Sapphiron. My Devilsaur goes to the exact right position each time to melee Sapphiron. This is very useful for melee on the encounter, because if they just stand on my Devilsaur, they will not get hit by Tail Whip or Cleave.