Hows it going, this is my First post and id like to make it short as possible.

I am running 2pc T9 and 2pc T8 as of a few days ago, 978 ArP in raids. I'd like to throw out there that I have found a nice DPS increase in using Chimera glyph. I was running Serp Steady and hawk before I made this change. I looked through logs of the night before in 25 ToC and found even with ISS proc going to my Chimera shot, like in most rotations, I was still seeing higher crits and non crits from aimed.

So this being said the Chimera shot glyph I'm using now allows me to put Aimed first in the rotation and chimera second with no GCD interference to the rotation. I still am able to roll out 4 steady's in the rotation and with ISS going to aimed now. I have seen increased dmg on Piercing shots, and an overall DPS.

Any takers to debate this post?

So far no push back has happened, it lines up the shots from when you do your first Aimed CS and Aimed comes up from Cool down Chimera shot is ready to fire with the 1.5 seconds from the Aimed shot, I dont know if this has to do with my ping but so far has proved usefull.

More info will be in tonight on this, Thanks for the response.

I'm curious how other hunters out there maximizing their DPS think about Engineering versus Blacksmithing. Blacksmithing yields me 40 Agi/Arp which is 2 Agi/ArP lower than JC's 42, which makes it the logical choice to of a skill to drop in my current BS/JC combo.

Statwise, the spreadsheet shows Engineering 40 dps under Blacksmithing, but when I consider the multitudinous uses especially in the PvE content my guild is facing down, the 340 Haste boost & Nitro Boost seem invaluable DPS. Here are a few uses I quickly thought up where Engineering should easily outshine any other profession:

Beasts Hard: Cleansing Poisons, No Sprint Buff to avoid Icehowl
Twin Valks: Speed Boosting to get back to a "good" essence after a burn and to avoid or pickup balls.
Anub: Pursuit assistance while avoiding bugs
Yogg 1 Light: 3 Nitros in the Brain phase & a Hyperspeed accelerator for each brain phase are the two strongest reasons I am considering this.

We are also working on Algalon 25 atm, which even for star-killers is highly stationary and a "just kill the boss" type of fight. Please let me know what you feel. I post this in the Marksmen questions because I play Marksmen, and I feel the Hyperspeed accelerator is more relevant to ArP builds, where maximizing your Autoshot is paramount.

To make engineering worth it DPS wise, you need to spam Saronite Bombs every 2 minutes, which is actually pretty hard to do as their max "range" is only ~28 yards.

You also use the rocket gloves, not the hyperspeed accelerators.

To be clear here, if you do not have ISS or either the Aimed or Chimera glyphs, then it really doesn't matter which you do first in the CS-AiS-SSx4 rotation between CS and AiS.

If you have both ISS and IB, then I am seeing a slight increase in DPS in BiS gear (about 10 with it being -2 DPS in my current gear) by switching AiS being fired before CS so that AiS uses up the ISS procs. Although this may be a DPS increase, it is not significant when compared to 10K+ overall DPS. Furthermore, the increase is smaller when you do not have full IB and ISS. The final item to factor in is what you are giving up to get both full ISS and IB. The best options I could see is dropping the points in RR (if you do not have any in FA), which may be an okay option in BiS gear since the mana pool is so large. However, for the 50 DPS cost to get RR, I would rather keep it to avoid AoV until I know that mana is not a problem.

Concerning bleed effect modifiers, you do not have to have a feral druid. The Trauma warrior skill is an equivalent.

Nitro Boots - The nitro boosts can only be activated every 3 minutes and require an Engineering skill of at least 400.

Since Yogg is going to be your main reason for swapping, you will get 1 use out of these in the brain phases, maybe 2. The better way to go is to use Aspect of the Pack down there so everyone gets to the brain quicker. Doesn't seem like a good reason to spend hundereds or thousands of gold and/or hours of farmiing to level engineering.

Nitroboosts are quite amazing and I'd be reluctant to drop engg for something else even if they were the only thing engineering offered. Theoretically you don't need them for any fight, but in practice you find a lot of uses for them, from getting in runes of power so far away that no one else bothers, to getting into brain portals on the other side of the room after you get constricted to rocket+disengage+cloaking from one end of Mimiron's room to the other without touching any fire, or even just collecting a lot of orbs on yourself during Twins. On some fights the benefits are ridiculously apparent, like kiting Anub for double the duration of anyone else on hard mode.

The rocket tinkers to gloves are a lot better than haste tinkers for sustained DPS, and they're also better than agi to gloves, but I suspect the haste may possibly be better for fights with short burn phases - can't say I've tried to do the math though. I'd rather use the haste on Hodir too for instance, since the rockets seem to crit at your spell crit rate, whereas extra autos crit at your normal crit rate and give you better return on storm power.

Adding those lines to your Aimed Shot macro:

#showtooltip Aimed Shot
/cancelaura Abomination's Might
/cancelaura Unleashed Rage
/cast Aimed Shot

Would fix it for you, used to have tsa glyph and this macro worked for me as expected , with my parses just confirming the expected crit rate on aimed shot it self.

According to the spreadsheet, switching from Wolf to Cat for me is a 109dps loss (8805.50 down to 8696.71). Furious Howl is by far the best buff from a pet for PvE. Not only does howl affect you, but it affects your pet, and has a 50% uptime. An average of 160ap bonus is better than having a cat hit Rake every 10 seconds.

I heard that [Death's Verdict] and [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] always activate same time. It would be better to include such effect into calculation tab.

probably, but the point is, our gear is full of ArP; I fear we will be forced to avoid this stat completely, quite impossible for us