Hit rating - Page 10

KraxisSingular · 01/09/09, 9:07 PM

Well, DoTs don't crit... Attacks with DoTs do.

And if that was hte case wouldn't it more like what Rosa says? Alll misses with DoT ticks.

Soulcow · 01/12/09, 4:02 PM

Did anyone test on the PTR these 2 things:

Focused Aim and giving pet hit.
Hit transfering in round numbers.

Might be that one or both got fixed.

Antorylis · 01/12/09, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by Soulcow

Did anyone test on the PTR these 2 things:

Focused Aim and giving pet hit.
Hit transfering in round numbers.

Might be that one or both got fixed.

I tested Focused Aim on the current PTR build. It still does not carry over to pets.

Also, I reported Spirit Strike appearing to use spell hit as a bug and Maaven replied that it will be investigated.

KraxisSingular · 01/12/09, 7:29 PM

Originally Posted by Antorylis

I tested Focused Aim on the current PTR build. It still does not carry over to pets.

Also, I reported Spirit Strike appearing to use spell hit as a bug and Maaven replied that it will be investigated.

Well, that doesn't mean it isn't intentional. It just means Maaven doesn't know. However I can't imagine why it should be using spellhit. It just doesn't fit.

Fierra · 01/13/09, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by cranium1980

So does anyone know how much hit you need as a draenei hunter? I only ask because you have the racial that gives you 1% extra hit.

So with 3/3 focused aim, if my hit rating is giving me 4% or more then I should be capped correct, since my racial would put me at 5% or more, and focused aim rounding me out up to the 8% cap? Is that correct?

Originally Posted by Intie

Against lvl 83 mobs (aka bosses):

With no Focused Aim, you need 296 hit rating to be hit capped.
With max Focused Aim, you need 197 hit rating to be hit capped.

If you are sexy draenei like me (or you have him/her in your group) you need 263 hit (or 164 with Focused Aim) to be hit capped against lvl 83 mobs.

Searching pulled this up in about 10 secs; we've discussed this a -lot-.

sjogren · 01/13/09, 9:56 AM

Except that's wrong. As the first post in this thread says, you need 8% (263 hit rating) if you don't have the Draenei aura. Should be 230 hit rating with the aura.

Fierra · 01/13/09, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by sjogren

Except that's wrong. As the first post in this thread says, you need 8% (263 hit rating) if you don't have the Draenei aura. Should be 230 hit rating with the aura.

Edit: Read above post incorrectly.

Actually, he's correct. Quoted an incorrect post!

Iroared · 01/13/09, 11:12 AM

So, 8% it is?
I have 8.5% and 3/3 FA (didn't respec yet), and my pet is getting about 2.5% dodge and 20% glancing. Which troubles me, where do I get glancing?? I do have 2/2 animal handler if that matters.

Faerdael · 01/13/09, 3:44 PM

Glancing blows are an unavoidable evil of melee DPS, there is really nothing that can be done about it. Expertise only deals with Dodge and Parry; nothing deals with glancing.

It looks pretty certain than 8% is now the cap (263hr w/o FA)

Intie · 01/14/09, 6:37 AM

My post Fierra was quotting was indeed made before the general consensus was made that hit cap against bosses in now 8% and not 9% as it was before in TBC.

New values should be like this:

Hit Cap (assuming 8% chance to miss) against lvl 83 bosses:
Without Focused Aim - 263 hit rating
With Focused Aim 3/3 - 164 hit rating

If you are draenei or have him/her in your group:
Without Focused Aim - 230 hit rating
With Focused Aim 3/3 - 132 hit rating

dbsmcfc · 01/14/09, 9:24 PM

just did a 10 men vault last night, with 7.96% hit on gear (261 hit rating) and a dranaei in the group, which in theory would put me way above hit cap. However during the fight I saw on my recount that I got 1 steady and 1 auto miss, thats 2 miss in a 3 min fight and its a bit huge. Later that day do a 25 men vault with same gear and dranaei buff, no miss watsoever in the fight. I will investigate on target dummy and see if indeed the hit cap is 8 or 9

Lerastes · 01/14/09, 9:44 PM

Originally Posted by dbsmcfc

just did a 10 men vault last night, with 7.96% hit on gear (261 hit rating) and a dranaei in the group, which in theory would put me way above hit cap. However during the fight I saw on my recount that I got 1 steady and 1 auto miss, thats 2 miss in a 3 min fight and its a bit huge. Later that day do a 25 men vault with same gear and dranaei buff, no miss watsoever in the fight. I will investigate on target dummy and see if indeed the hit cap is 8 or 9

It's been proven many many times the cap is 8%. You were debuffed on the first fight with a -hit debuff Archavon does.

Kavor · 01/15/09, 6:01 AM

I'm a french guy so sorry for my english

When you fight against Archavon there isn't a "hit debuff" when you stay in the cloud on the ground ?
Maybe yours miss come from this.

Thrabuco · 01/15/09, 6:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kavor

I'm a french guy so sorry for my english

When you fight against Archavon there isn't a "hit debuff" when you stay in the cloud on the ground ?
Maybe yours miss come from this.

Exactly.
Just like Lerastes said, Archavon have a -hit debuff, wich probably is the reason of those misses.

Steiny · 01/15/09, 9:53 AM

Hi Guys,

Couldn't find this addressed anywhere else.

Just wondering if this 8% it calc thing will apply to other classes as well, or was it just a mistake made towards the hunter?

Cheers