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Old 08/27/09, 1:15 PM   3 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #351
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I also had dodges on my WWS reports. So if focused aim is not adding expertise to pets does that mean the Heroic Presence 1% hit does not apply as well?
 
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Old 08/27/09, 4:04 PM   #352
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I don't have any evidence to back this up, but I would say more than likely the random dodges are coming from pets attacking from the front of the boss a couple times during the encounter, from running in or the tank moving the boss. Again, I don't have an evidence, but with so few dodges it seems more likely that it is probably just slow pet AI.
 
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Old 08/27/09, 4:56 PM   #353
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If your pet is expertise capped (i.e. you are hit capped), he shouldn't see dodges whether he's in front or behind a mob. He might still encounter parries if he happens to attack from the front or too far forward on the side, though.

It used to be that some mobs/bosses had higher defense and therefore had higher dodge and parry chances, but I think that was all normalized some time ago.
 
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Old 08/27/09, 5:07 PM   #354
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Originally Posted by grim4o4 View Post
I don't have any evidence to back this up, but I would say more than likely the random dodges are coming from pets attacking from the front of the boss a couple times during the encounter, from running in or the tank moving the boss. Again, I don't have an evidence, but with so few dodges it seems more likely that it is probably just slow pet AI.
Whatever site you could use to check the logs shows Parry, Dodge, and Miss. If not, check out another site.

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Old 08/28/09, 10:40 AM   #355
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This is an example of dodges on a fairly straight forward fight. Sure its not a lot but every point counts if it can be helped.
 
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Old 08/28/09, 11:26 AM   #356
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While hunter hit rating from gear will pass expertise to the pet as planned, the Draenei hit aura does not, and the focused aim talent does not seem to be passing as much as it should.
Zeherah has tested this and it is still the case. If it changes, I'll update the first post.

 
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Old 08/28/09, 12:35 PM   #357
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I've been looking over my WWS reports and all the reports are dead on my hit percent for their dodges with pets. All of the misses on my reports are dodges and it breaks down to a solid 2% when I was sitting at 6.01% without a draenai and 1 point in Focused Aim. I'm guessing that the percent hit you are short is directly translating into their expertise prior to talents and Heroic Presence.
 
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Old 08/30/09, 7:20 PM   #358
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Ran tests on the latest PTR to see if they'd addressed the focused aim problem but no such luck.

7% hit + 1 pt in focused aim, should have 0 dodges instead I got:
melee - 7/2019
bite - 7/1631

14/3650: .38% dodge

Normally 1% hit should correspond to about .8% dodge. This is consistent with my tests on PTR before 3.2's release which found that focused aim seemed to be giving about half the expected benefit to expertise.
 
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