Hit rating - Page 7

SkyMonkey · 12/05/08, 3:35 AM

Naxx 10 Plague and Military wings, + a few Saph attempts.

Hit for boss fights was 265 with food.

Zero misses, zero pet misses.

Parse, view bosses only: Wow Web Stats

Gozardina · 12/05/08, 10:42 AM

It looks as though my pet did have a couple actual misses in last night's Naxx:

swing - 9 total misses at .3%
bite - 6 total misses at .5%
monstrous bite - 1 total miss at .3%

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Since I only care about the boss fights, I filtered by "All Bosses". Looks as though I was able to pinpoint the misses to Gluth. My hit rating was 266, so I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts on my misses for this fight.

edit:

Originally Posted by Healranktwo

Heroic presence has a 30 yard range, are you 100% sure your draenei was in range of you at all times?

Sorry I missed this. Completely slipped my mind and it would make perfect sense as I was helping the mage kite while pet stayed on boss most of the fight.

Justwait · 12/05/08, 2:39 PM

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That's me runing with around 7.4~ hit that night, guess I didnt have dreanei aura 100% of the time thats why I missed some.
I believe the hit cap for both hunter and pet are 8%.

Take your own conclusions.

Chanii · 12/05/08, 6:10 PM

Maybe this helps...

Damage on Patchwerk, 10 Men Naxxramas.
243 hit, 0/3 FA.

me:

pet:

Paladin0228 · 12/05/08, 8:33 PM

I have a Draenei Hunter and I was doing some 'naked' testing on the ' Heroic training dummy ' in IF.. [ no hit rating from gear or talents.. ]

after 3560 shots [ normal shots ]

6.1% miss rate
4.0% blocked
1.1% crit
88.8% normal hits

Is the dummy bassed off raid boss level ?

Because this would show that raid boss hit rating needed would only be 7.0% or so..

King-Slide · 12/06/08, 12:22 AM

It's the first time I see blocked shots.
Could Weapon Skill have an impact?

Could the conversion rate for us be bugged?
Something similar to caster Hit rates needed for our shots to hit. The other physical dps classes utilize a 1 roll system. Ours is more casterish, assuming the 2 roll system really applies to our shots.

Perforate · 12/06/08, 12:40 PM

This change for Bm hunters needing 260+ hit to cap their pets plus focused aim losing a ton of value since a BM hunter NEEDS to cap the pet and it doesnt transfer over changes ALOT for me.

Not going to do the 50/21 spec anymore. I would much rather now go 55/15 with 1 point left to throw anywhere and take invigoration and full cobra strikes with Beast Mastery. Those 3 points are kind of a huge deal to me. I could stay 50/21 but then where do I put those 3? Improved stings? Doesn't seem like anywhere near as good in terms of scaling as cobra strikes and invigoration will be.

Sure Ill have BM and yet be using a cat since they are still better for now, but I think that build will fare better in the future. Especially after they get around to giving us a forbearance (you know its coming).

Velenorx · 12/06/08, 9:33 PM

I have done some testing today.

Setup was:

Hunter:
- 166 Hit (5.06%) + 3% from FA
- Only Auto-Shots from behind

Pet:
- Only Auto-Attack from behind

And for Physical-Reference:

Deathknight:
- 266 Hit (8,11%)
- Only Auto-Attacks
- Attacks mostly from behind (He stood a little too much to the side in the beginning.)

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Conclusion:

WWS mostly confirms reports from above. 8% hit is the Cap. The pet doesn't gain +hit from FA. All physical DPS needs only 8% Hit.

Leneson · 12/08/08, 5:08 AM

An interesting question to ask would be whether or not out pets scale with our expertise. Mind you we obviously don't get any from gear, it seems as if point for point it may be worth gemming if it is a flat dps increase for our pets.

Salanei · 12/08/08, 6:19 AM

Leneson, Expertise does not transfer to the pet.

The only stats that do are Hit and AP. To be exact, pets get 100% hit and 22% of our AP.

Lactose · 12/08/08, 7:22 AM

Originally Posted by Salanei

Leneson, Expertise does not transfer to the pet.

The only stats that do are Hit and AP. To be exact, pets get 100% hit and 22% of our AP.

Recent tests indicate that Hit is only transferred in whole percentages - having 7.0% or 7.99% Hit will transfer 7.0% Hit to the pet.

Bainik · 12/08/08, 6:44 PM

Has anyone attempted to ask a GM if the new hit cap is a bug or an intended change? I'm inclined to believe it is a bug as there was no mention of it in blue posts or patch notes.

Flaubert · 12/09/08, 5:50 AM

Originally Posted by Bainik

Has anyone attempted to ask a GM if the new hit cap is a bug or an intended change? I'm inclined to believe it is a bug as there was no mention of it in blue posts or patch notes.

Tried several times now and got the same Answer from 4 different GMs.:

We are not allowed to give specific Information about this issue.

Reasked about Focused Aim and the 0,xx% Transfer and if it is possible that there is a Bug involved.

GM assured me that there is no Bug in FA and that the 0,xx% thing is working as intented.
My Guess is you can assume that both stated Claims are indeed true for the Time being.

regards

Soulcow · 12/09/08, 7:32 AM

Originally Posted by Bainik

Has anyone attempted to ask a GM if the new hit cap is a bug or an intended change? I'm inclined to believe it is a bug as there was no mention of it in blue posts or patch notes.

Or did anyone tried to get a blue response about it?

Endage · 12/10/08, 5:37 PM

I had this strange thing happening tonight at Archavon: Wow Web Stats

Although I am hitcapped (8,04% hit) I still missed quite a few shots, including a critical Chimera which caused me to lose a nice AP-stacked Serpent Sting.

Is this a common thing on Archavon, anyone else experienced this?