Hit rating - Page 8

Ketari · 12/10/08, 5:48 PM

Originally Posted by Endage

Is this a common thing on Archavon, anyone else experienced this?

Were you at any point stood within his nature-damage cloud? If you were, it has a 50% miss-debuff. (Can't view WWS atm, ISP semi-dying again)

TrevvyTrev · 12/10/08, 5:49 PM

Originally Posted by Endage

I had this strange thing happening tonight at Archavon: Wow Web Stats

Although I am hitcapped (8,04% hit) I still missed quite a few shots, including a critical Chimera which caused me to lose a nice AP-stacked Serpent Sting.

Is this a common thing on Archavon, anyone else experienced this?

If you look at the Gains, Buffs & Debuffs tab on your WWS, you'll see that you got hit by Choking Cloud two times. There's your answer.

Gaj · 12/10/08, 5:57 PM

Originally Posted by Soulcow

Or did anyone tried to get a blue response about it?

There is a post about it in DD forums which is overflowing with Dev attention today.

There is also a post here about it.

My WWS show 100% at 8% (with FA). I'm still hoarding +hit gear when I can because you never know when Blizz is going to 'fix' hit.

Endage · 12/10/08, 6:33 PM

Originally Posted by TrevvyTrev

If you look at the Gains, Buffs & Debuffs tab on your WWS, you'll see that you got hit by Choking Cloud two times. There's your answer.

Thank you. I didn't think about it, had no clue I got hit by it.

Lufan · 12/10/08, 8:52 PM

8.14% (267) Hit with no FA. 0 misses on myself, but pet will occasionally miss by a few %. I have 2/2 AH.

Here is our WWS (I was only there till Loatheb)

Breakdown are as follows:

Anub'Rekhan
Swing 4.5% Miss
Claw 5.7% Miss

Faerlina
Swing 1.8% Miss

Noth Round 1 before Air Phase
Swing 8.2% Miss
Claw 10.9% Miss

Noth Death
Swing 4.3% Miss
Claw 8.2% Miss

Heigan
Swing 7.7% Miss
Rake 5.0% Miss

Loatheb
Swing 3.7% Miss
Claw 2.6% Miss

Anyone have any advice as to why my pet is missing roughly around 5%? Even with the 3/3 FA at around 6% hit, I noticed my pet is still having roughly the same amount of misses on boss mobs.

This is another test we did 7 times on raid dummies using raid buffs. All these tests consists of either 3 minutes or 5 minutes. They are full raid buffs, without flasks or food buffs. This data might be misleading, since the dummies might behave different in their defense mechanism. Note: I have around 6.XX% hit at that time, using FA 3/3. So my pet hit % is 6%.

Here is our WWS. The WWS combines all 7 tests.

Pet was behind the mob at all times during the test

Swing Miss: 6.6%
Claw Miss: 5.3%

KraxisSingular · 12/10/08, 9:20 PM

Ok, misses in WWS account for all kinds of non-connecting attacks. If you click your pet's swing (the line itself) you will see a breakdown of what happened. And you will see no actual misses, you will however see a few dodges and a parry.

[EDIT] Extremely interesting, and quite surprising little experient in the general hitcap thread.

http://elitistjerks.com/1009024-post66.html

HellyardsOwn · 12/11/08, 12:47 AM

Wow Web Stats
WWS tonight (we were trying 1 drake up the first couple attempts, Obsidian Sanctum, Kill was with no drakes up)

browsing my personal misses, has me at a 1% auto shot miss rate, 0% special miss on the final attempt. Running with 234 Hit Rating (7.14% chance to hit) No Heroic Presence on that attempt and no Focused Aim.

Edit: WWS Log Files were making my eyes bleed, decided to make my fingers bleed instead so did a short test dummy test on hit. I have 7.14 hit, 0 misses on test dummy, pet had a few though (no focused aim once again).
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...itTesting1.jpg

edit: deleted product of tired confusion.

KraxisSingular · 12/11/08, 9:18 AM

Nothing strange there as far as I can see. Unless WWS is borked I found 2 Swing misses, 2 Claw misses and 1 Auto miss. That more or less fits your hitrating.

HellyardsOwn · 12/11/08, 9:24 AM

-delete- corrected other post

Malkuron · 12/11/08, 3:24 PM

Currently running a test with 2000 shots and the pet hitting the whole time.

0/0 FA
266 hit rating
8.11 hit %

Around 700 shots left and no misses yet, aswell as the statistics up to now for my pet are as follows:

Misses: 0 for all skills

Melee
545 (24.1%) glancing
89 (3.9%) dodge
8 (0.4%) parry

Claw
42 (3.7%) dodge
1 (0.1%) parry

Rake
11 (3.8%) dodge

Will update when I run out of arrows, but from looking at my test so far It's looking like 8% is infact the hit cap for both the Hunter and the pet, and when mixing mine and other test's I've seen on here, it seems that the theory that pet hit rating won't accept decimals is true, so you would need 8.xx hit % to achieve the hit cap with your pet.

EDIT: After 2000 shots and more than 4000 attacks from my pet, neither of us had any misses whatsoever.

Hopefully this helps.

PS: this is on the heroic target dummy in IF - will try and get a WWS and a recount log of a 10-man Naxx on Friday night aswell.

Aevitas · 12/23/08, 1:55 PM

With the introduction of Arena Season 5, I think it's also a good addition to the topic to post the PvP hit rating statistics.
This is what I have calculated, assuming the hit rating required is 3%:

0/3 Focused Aim: 98 (98.3699)
1/3 Focused Aim: 65 (65.5799)
2/3 Focused Aim: 32 (32.7899)
3/3 Focused Aim: 0 (0.000)

Stara · 12/23/08, 3:17 PM

I thought 5% was required against an equal level target. Unless that was changed with the release of WotLK.

Soulcow · 12/23/08, 4:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stara

I thought 5% was required against an equal level target. Unless that was changed with the release of WotLK.

I remember doing a short test with a bit more then 5% hit on the 80 dummy and me and my pet didn't miss. While with around 4% me and my pet did miss. This was probably like 2 weeks ago when this hitcap was a hot issue.

Snowcrasher · 01/02/09, 5:37 PM

Can you please update the first post since the consensus (I haven't been able to find contradicting evidence anywhere on these forums) is that the hit cap for both hunter and pet is 8% (not 9%).

Also add that it's 5% for PVP/Equal Level Targets and that hunter hit transfers to pets in rounded down integer amounts
(ie. 7.9% hit -> 7% hit transferred to pet)?

flimflam · 01/02/09, 6:44 PM

In PVP against Night Elves you'll need 7% hit because of their racial: Quickness - Spell - World of Warcraft