3.0.8 PTR Changes - Page 33

lythrdskynrd · 01/25/09, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by McGarnicle

Have you had this happen again Thayer? I'm curious if this is a bug or perhaps a situational occurence, as I've expirenced this on four seperate occasions with my dwarf hunter. I've noticed that each time it happened it's been when I've used distracting shot and the mob has resisted my freezing trap. All four occurences were in heroic dungeons. I've tried purposely to recreate this without any success though.

FD has been working badly for me too - restoring threat. It isn't all the time though - only intermittent. I haven't been clever enough to figure out what causes it.

Iru · 01/25/09, 2:12 PM

I am wondering if its related to serpent stings. I did an MD pull for Instructor in a 25man Naxx, got aggro, FD'd, popped up and was right back to the top of the aggro chart and so got one shotted. However, I did Serpent Sting the instructor so maybe the DoT is mitigating the FD effects?

Anarchos · 01/25/09, 9:16 PM

FD is pretty much borked on some bosses at the moment, I reckon it's Blizz' way of telling us to utilize our deterence better, and ontop of that teaching tanks that they need to taunt stuff off the class that has a glyphed 25sec aggro dump, when it works.

It was *hmm* interesting to see those 3x Explosive crits for 12k each on Malygos rack up earlier and the hunters suddenly skyrocketing past the MT while being spark powered :P

Pretty sure they're aware of FD not working perfectly, but with the monthly revenues and staff Blizzard have.. it's not easy to hotfix things or make rapidly deployed patches! =)

Corbetti · 01/26/09, 4:31 AM

I have had FD fail to wipe threat on numerous occasions, both in heroics & Naxx 10. I've put it down to a combination of lag and being a bit too quick to hop up after feigning. If I give it ~1s of lying on the floor it seems to be OK.

Of slight relevance to this topic: Is Misdirect best used before or after FD, or doesn't it matter? I tend to save it until after just in case FD is resisted (also fits better with MD on initial pull).

Thayer · 01/26/09, 4:34 AM

Originally Posted by Corbetti

I have had FD fail to wipe threat on numerous occasions, both in heroics & Naxx 10. I've put it down to a combination of lag and being a bit too quick to hop up after feigning. If I give it ~1s of lying on the floor it seems to be OK.

Of slight relevance to this topic: Is Misdirect best used before or after FD, or doesn't it matter? I tend to save it until after just in case FD is resisted (also fits better with MD on initial pull).

I have had FD fail even if I lie on the ground for 3 or more seconds. On Raz, it did this 6 times in a row, resetting my threat each time I got up. On Malygos, it doesn't ever work.

Feanoro · 01/27/09, 12:53 AM

If you recall, the new Shadowmeld was supposed to drop threat, then restore it when you came out of 'meld. Pre-3.0.8, it acted more like FD, completely wiping threat. My guess therefore is that FD and 'meld both in some way call the same code and the fix to 'meld broke FD.

Pootch · 01/27/09, 2:33 AM

Deterrence + FD seems to be buggy. If you use deterrence and FD in these 5 sec. your aggro will get fully refreshed to your last aggro point. Like shadowmeld is working right now.

KergeKacsa · 01/27/09, 5:44 AM

As I see FD is bugged on Malygos, it doesn't reset aggro. (tested by 4 hunter in raid)
But it seems to be good at Sartharion, it resets aggro and save our life sometimes.

orinaccio · 01/27/09, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by KergeKacsa

As I see FD is bugged on Malygos, it doesn't reset aggro. (tested by 4 hunter in raid)
But it seems to be good at Sartharion, it resets aggro and save our life sometimes.

I can confirm that FD is not working correctly on Malygos. All hunters in my raid last night reported problems. It seemed to work on some bosses in Naxx but I wasn't really paying attention.

SuperShot · 01/27/09, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by orinaccio

I can confirm that FD is not working correctly on Malygos. All hunters in my raid last night reported problems. It seemed to work on some bosses in Naxx but I wasn't really paying attention.

This happened to me on Malygos as well.

I believe I also noticed it not working on Loatheb, Patchwerk, and Kel'Thuzad. However, on some other bosses I noticed it working fine. I never had to use FD when I was BM specced since the pet did a great deal of the damage.

The big downside is I've had to stop DPS on occasion just to make sure I don't overtake threat on the tank.

We are doing Naxx again tonight so I will try to compile a list of bosses it's not working on.

noth · 01/27/09, 3:19 PM

I did establish (via pulling & feigning >.<) that feign is working fine on Sapphiron.
I've had it fail on Malygos repeatedly.
It seems to be working fine on Sartharion as well.

Grimmarg · 01/28/09, 9:26 AM

It has been confirmed to me, by two different GM's, that Feign Death not working on Malygos is a known issue. Which is why I usually just stand around picking my nose on that fight.

serbian · 01/28/09, 9:58 AM

Like you guys have mentioned,I'm having those FD bugs as well,on few bosses in Naxx and on Malygos especially.Another interesting thing is to see people using Explosive Shot on initial MD pull and getting aggro sometimes before even boss reaches the tank without realizing that even ticks from ES count as "2nd" and "3rd" attack,so quite often the following two shots overcome threat made by ES and it's two ticks.

Ryas · 01/28/09, 10:10 AM

We usually bring 2 Paladins to Malygos (Main Tank/Ret) and they cast Hand of Salvation on me so that I can still deal damage. Not being able to use an ability we've had since release on a boss fight is pretty lame though, and Blizzard not fixing it in that "Bug Fix" patch yesterday is also pretty lame.

• Relwin · 01/28/09, 10:43 AM

Ok, 3.0.8 is live now and this has more turned into a general discussion thread. That means it has outlived its usefulness for the moment.