If you would read the previous post, you would see that I stated "dwarf" gets advantage cause of racial, of which I and the asker---Dravous are both...

The list was specific to our race and class; just a quick ref is all...

Sorry if someone has already answered this. I skimmed over a few pages and didn't find any answer though... When I look in the spreadsheet, it shows Siren's being about 15 dps better than Giant's. However, most the posts here use Giant's over Siren's. I'm wondering which is better? I am a night elf with no racial bonus to weapons.

With my gear, Siren's comes out on top for non-dwarfs and Giant's comes out on top for dwarfs.

Yes Ginbar, it is me. Good to see you.

Thanks for the info, and yes it was with dwarf's in mind. However, I assume thats based on a SV build, and as Kom suggested, I believe it still may be ahead for MM. This is due to CS using weapon damage, and that gun is higher item level and slower, making CS hit that much harder.

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe that it's slower speed will also increase the value of any haste. 15% haste will have greater total impact on a 3.0 speed weapon that a 2.9 speed weapon, although granted it would be very small increase.

Edit: Just to clarify, MM use a greater % of auto-shots, which would definitely benefit more from the higher DPS weapon and is what would allow haste to increase in value.

I get this as slightly better than other layouts for SV, going for 8% hit cap. Is it me, or can others confirm?

Hands: T8.25
Belt: Death-warmed
Legs: Legguards of Cunning Deception

Switch gems around if necessary.

2 new items for us:

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...reambinder.jpg (Staff - Phys.DPS) dropped from Freya in Hard Mode.

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...gecrossbow.jpg (Crossbow - Phys.DPS) dropped from Thorim in Hard Mode

Best in slots, aye?

I'm not seeing that staff nearly as BiS. Lot's of crit loss for a SV. I could see it being up there for BM maaaybe...

How about trolls, Siren's Cry vs. the xbow?

Spreadsheet version 88a with the two new custom-modelled Ulduar hardmode weapons

Hunter dps: 6492,70
Pet dps: 1114.95
Total dps: 7607,65

Crit: 62,74%
Hit: 100,08%
ArP: 332
Haste: 227

Spec: 6/14/51
Race: Nightelf
Pet: Wolf
Shot Queue: KS/ES/BA/Sp/MS/SS

Head: Conqueror's Scourgestalker Headpiece - Arcanum of Torment - Relentless Earthsiege Diamond - Delicate Stormjewel
Neck: Pendulum of Infinity - Delicate Dragon's Eye
Shoulders: Conqueror's Scourgestalker Spaulders - Greater Inscription of the Axe - Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Back: Drape of the Faceless General - Major Agility - Delicate Scarlet Ruby - Glinting Monarch Topaz
Chest: Conqueror's Scourgestalker Tunic - Powerful Stats - Delicate Scarlet Ruby - Delicate Dragon's Eye
Wrist: Frost-bound Chain Bracers - Greater Assault - Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Hands: Gloves of the Steady Hand - Major Agility - Delicate Scarlet Ruby x3
Waist: Belt of the Betrayed - Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Legs: Conqueror's Scourgestalker Legguards - Icescale Leg Armor - Delicate Scarlet Ruby x2
Feet: Boots of Living Scale - Icewalker - Delicate Scarlet Ruby - Delicate Dragon's Eye
Ring: Brann's Signet Ring - Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Ring: Brann's Sealing Ring - Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Trinket: Darkmoon Card: Greatness
Trinket: Mjolnir Runestone
Main Hand: Dreambinder (custom) - Massacre - Delicate Scarlet Ruby x2
Ranged: Skyforge Crossbow (custom) - Heartseeker Scope
Ammo: Mammoth Cutters

I'm not sure why the above layout is with a 6/14/51 build, maybe I'm behind on my reading but I was under the impression that it was not the best spec anymore.

wouldnt it be more dps to move the dragons eye from the boots to the staff?