Hunters: Soloing old instances for fun and profit - Page 12

Skhope · 04/17/09, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by Iru

What are people's thoughts on the value of Imp Revive Pet in a BM build for soloing old instances? If your pet dies during a fight is there even enough time to recover your pet or is the wipe inevitable? It's included in both the builds in this thread but I'm wondering if something like this build would be more effective.

I have used it a couple times in ZG. Once on the raptor boss, my pet died midway through because of me not healing him enough, so I got teleported at the bottom. I popped deterrence, rezzed pet, used last stand, and pet taunt and it was like he never died. Similar thing happened on the spider boss's trash.

Pootch · 04/18/09, 6:23 AM

I am using the new mend Pet glyphe + BM tank specc (hunter & pet-turtle).
It is very easy now to do all the BC heroic instances solo.
Tiger & Raptor Encounter at ZG is easy going..
Turtle Pet is kinda cool.. shieldwall every 40sec, Pet heal ticks for 2,3k
The new pet talent heals the pet on growl for 2% life + Bloodthirsty. Using also (2) T5. Thunderstomp pulls good aggro.

Xeri · 04/18/09, 7:58 AM

I did ZG today and the Viper Sting and Pummel (Gorilla) changes were pretty big for this.

I used Viper constantly rather than Serpent as a means to regen mana. The mana draining was so slow is wasn't worth it for that purpose.

On High Priestess Jeklik (Bat) rather than drain 100% of her mana, you can have the Gorilla Pummel her heals instead. During phase 2, turn the Gorillas abilities off auto cast so he'll have plenty of energy to do so. Her heal seems to be on a 20 second timer at it's shortest, which gives 21 second Pummel (with Longetivity), just enough time to interrupt due to the long cast time (4 seconds).

For High Priest Thekal (Tiger), make a focus frame for Lor'Khan to make Pummeling heals easier. I didn't need to turn abilities off auto cast for this one.

Also, Improved Revive Pet is one of the most useless talents you could take. If by chance a pet dies, you're better off Feigning and resetting imo.

KraxisSingular · 04/18/09, 9:13 AM

Originally Posted by Pijn

I did Bat boss once now after patch 3.1
Our viper sting, though an incredibly powerful mana regen tool now, is severely weakened for fights like the bat boss. I used same tactic i used pre 3.1; just drain her mana before p2 begins, though it takes a long time now (10 minutes at least i would guess), it makes p2 the exact same it was before 3.1 meaning she wont heal. Also, you mention 'there I was slowly getting burned', what do you mean by this? Did you take damage in p1 in some way? All possible damage in that phase can be prevented, and p2 remains a simple nuke phase.

No, it was the fires on the ground. How are those preventable? Sure a lot of them missed, but I could barely stand still and still slowly lost health (Spirit Bond dragged out a lot but wasn't enough). I would have had plenty time to kill her had she not healed. And a few times her Mind Flay hit me as well.

Gorgar (EU) · 04/18/09, 9:29 AM

For me the Pummel on auto cast have worked on a few heals. Did this happen to you as well?

Pijn · 04/18/09, 11:55 AM

Right, so for those with a gorilla the bat boss is trivial since you have an interupt now, for those without (me, didnt use a gorilla before 3.1, not gonna bother with one now) will have to use the long boring drain tactic, but its just one fight. I have used a bear to solo ZG/Onyxia/AQ20 plus heroic MgT and the occasional boss in MC for some time now and never relied on Thunderstomp. Now that i have it it's a nice addition though, especially combined with the bear's Swipe

KraxisSingular · 04/18/09, 1:28 PM

Though it is highly weakened. I would say it does perhaps 70% of the damage and the threat might have been reduced as well.

Pijn · 04/18/09, 7:23 PM

Originally Posted by KraxisSingular

Though it is highly weakened. I would say it does perhaps 70% of the damage and the threat might have been reduced as well.

True, but it is still nice for MgT/ZG trash to prevent me getting aggro through Mend Pet. On a single target fight you wouldnt depend on the thunderstomp anyway, so in other words; it does its job.

IceyDevil · 04/18/09, 8:08 PM

Tested the guerrilla on Thekal, the pummel doesn't help at all. She will stop casting her heal, yes, but will simply cast it 5 seconds later. And if you intimidate that heal, she will cast again 5 seconds later. Better to have the turtle damage reduction for me (I don't have 2xt5 yet =( )

muul · 04/20/09, 4:37 AM

Originally Posted by KraxisSingular

No, it was the fires on the ground. How are those preventable? Sure a lot of them missed, but I could barely stand still and still slowly lost health (Spirit Bond dragged out a lot but wasn't enough). I would have had plenty time to kill her had she not healed. And a few times her Mind Flay hit me as well.

Fire bombs
I just FD'd and my pet could stand on its own for quite some time and when I see the bats dropping the first bomb on my pet I stand up and use bandage.

Mind Flay
Pretty sure you can outrange it with Hawk Eye

Heals
Just keep Viper Sting up on High Priestess Jeklik

leonardofelin · 04/20/09, 9:40 AM

Originally Posted by muul

Mind Flay
Pretty sure you can outrange it with Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye isn't mandatory. I just stay at max range and don't get hit.

Ravenfire · 04/20/09, 11:45 AM

I also soloed Attumen the Huntsmen this week. Just to add a note for those that wish to try Attumen the Huntsmen (first kara boss). If your pet gets dangerously low you can distracting shot Attumen and let him beat on you for a little bit to let Mend pet + 2pt5 (you should continue to dps Midnight) to get your pet's health back up. FD to send Attumen back onto your much healthier pet.

P.S. 2pT5 and Living Crystal with a heavy BM spec and Glyph of Mending make this rather easier then I thought it would be. I one shot the fight.

Shandara · 04/20/09, 12:23 PM

I have been unable to get past phase 1 on Attumen, most likely due to my lack of 2t5. Even with scrolls and such and my pet at 19.5k hp it dies before I get Attumen's horse low enough.

Skhope · 04/20/09, 3:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenfire

I also soloed Attumen the Huntsmen this week. Just to add a note for those that wish to try Attumen the Huntsmen (first kara boss). If your pet gets dangerously low you can distracting shot Attumen and let him beat on you for a little bit to let Mend pet + 2pt5 (you should continue to dps Midnight) to get your pet's health back up. FD to send Attumen back onto your much healthier pet.

P.S. 2pT5 and Living Crystal with a heavy BM spec and Glyph of Mending make this rather easier then I thought it would be. I one shot the fight.

I was unable to get through phase 1 before 3.1 (even with 2 piece T5), but after reading this, I tried it out and much to my surprise I was able to down him on my first try. The new Tenacity talents and the glyph of mending help a lot. Also, I was using a turtle, so I had two tanking cooldowns, Shell Shield and Last Stand. The only thing annoying about this fight are the knockbacks he does. The -hit chance debuff is resisted most of the time and it can also be cleansed off of the pet with imp mend pet.

Aciara · 04/20/09, 5:29 PM

I'm not sure where else to ask this question, so I'm just going to risk an infraction here. With alot of the harder content people are always talking about the 2t5 bonus, I didn't raid with my Hunter during TBC so I have no t5 pieces. Has anybody tried going to SSC/TK and how many people would one acctually need for such an endevour?