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01/29/09, 8:32 PM
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Glass Joe
Dwarf Hunter
Lightbringer
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Originally Posted by meccabow
can someone give a good gold table for the bosses? and which bosses are most profitable, considering the 3.08 gold drop nerf.
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off the top of my head, the last time i checked the most profitable soloable boss was the one in ZG that you fish up. Can't remember his name! He was worth ~500g a kill because he has a 25% chance to drop the book which allows mages to turtle cc (as opposed to sheep). that book goes for over 2k consistently on ah.
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02/01/09, 11:37 PM
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#17
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Sargeras
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Originally Posted by greendef
Kurinnaxx: Send pet in, stand behind the bug and strafe after every couple of shots to avoid sand trap. Mend pet isn't affected by the healing debuff.
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This appears to no longer be true.
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02/02/09, 6:13 AM
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#18
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Eredar (EU)
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I have killed Thekal as a Survival Hunter in full epic lvl 80 PVP gear. Definitly do able but much more challengening than doing that with BM or MM Specc.
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02/02/09, 9:26 AM
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Hunter
Kael'thas (EU)
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I have killed Thekal as a Survival Hunter in full epic lvl 80 PVP gear. Definitly do able but much more challengening than doing that with BM or MM Specc.
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I would like to understand your statement , in what way is it easier to kill Thekal with a MM spec ?
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02/02/09, 9:27 AM
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Eikichi
I would like to understand your statement , in what way is it easier to kill Thekal with a MM spec ?
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Most likely Silencing Shot to interrupt the healing.
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02/02/09, 9:36 AM
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Von Kaiser
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So far my experience with soloing has me sold on moth and ferocity pets in general being far superior to tenacity for tanking (I single out moth due to its special which provides an extra heal)
My moth's build is this focused mainly, as you can see, on survivability (probably too much). What I usually do is start the fight with growl active and at some point (around 60-70% of the boss) switching to cower to gain the 20% damage reduction.
Last edited by elandriel : 02/02/09 at 9:37 AM.
Reason: fixing bb tags
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02/02/09, 3:00 PM
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#22
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Glass Joe
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I have tried repeatedly to kill thekal as BM with a worm pet, wearing all the pvp gear i've got and having 2piece t5 on. Yet still I cannot keep my pet alive unless he's got fort/motw/kings, putting his health up to 21k. Apparently its not an issue to keep up pets, even when mine is specced into tanking as much as possible, including a spec of my own that increases health/armor etc. To all the hunters that have solo'd Thekal, how much health do you and your pet have, and how much armor does your pet have? The problem might be because my gear is outdated, most of my pvp gear is brutal/vengeful from 70 with the exception of a new xbow, hateful boots/belt/ring.
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02/02/09, 4:58 PM
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Originally Posted by elandriel
So far my experience with soloing has me sold on moth and ferocity pets in general being far superior to tenacity for tanking (I single out moth due to its special which provides an extra heal)
My moth's build is this focused mainly, as you can see, on survivability (probably too much). What I usually do is start the fight with growl active and at some point (around 60-70% of the boss) switching to cower to gain the 20% damage reduction.
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... I'd mentally written off Improved Cower as a pointless waste of space some months ago, but now that you mention it, it seems rather good. What's the theorycraft of Improved Damage's 20% DR vs. the various Armor gains that the Tenacity tree affords?
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02/02/09, 5:10 PM
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Teedge
I have tried repeatedly to kill thekal as BM with a worm pet, wearing all the pvp gear i've got and having 2piece t5 on. Yet still I cannot keep my pet alive unless he's got fort/motw/kings, putting his health up to 21k. Apparently its not an issue to keep up pets, even when mine is specced into tanking as much as possible, including a spec of my own that increases health/armor etc. To all the hunters that have solo'd Thekal, how much health do you and your pet have, and how much armor does your pet have? The problem might be because my gear is outdated, most of my pvp gear is brutal/vengeful from 70 with the exception of a new xbow, hateful boots/belt/ring.
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It probably depends a lot on your and your pet's spec. My pet had roughly 15k hp but I did spec into a weird BM solo spec to do ZG. I Catlike Reflexes for the extra dodge as well as all the avoidance/tank pet talents. I also used a Tenacity pet for the Blood of the Rhino healing increase.
As long as I kept all the mobs with my pet far away from he, even if Zath gouged my pet it would take them long enough to reach that I could FD and get 1 or 2 Mend Pet ticks at the same time.
The only thing that is really deadly is them beating on your pet when it's stunned.
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02/02/09, 5:49 PM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Shandara
It probably depends a lot on your and your pet's spec. My pet had roughly 15k hp but I did spec into a weird BM solo spec to do ZG. I Catlike Reflexes for the extra dodge as well as all the avoidance/tank pet talents. I also used a Tenacity pet for the Blood of the Rhino healing increase.
As long as I kept all the mobs with my pet far away from he, even if Zath gouged my pet it would take them long enough to reach that I could FD and get 1 or 2 Mend Pet ticks at the same time.
The only thing that is really deadly is them beating on your pet when it's stunned.
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Yeah i've got one of those weird specs too, except my pet *still* goes down. Its probably because my pvp gear is weak, my dps is weak....any other suggestions?
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02/02/09, 9:23 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Teedge
I have tried repeatedly to kill thekal as BM with a worm pet, wearing all the pvp gear i've got and having 2piece t5 on. Yet still I cannot keep my pet alive unless he's got fort/motw/kings, putting his health up to 21k. Apparently its not an issue to keep up pets, even when mine is specced into tanking as much as possible, including a spec of my own that increases health/armor etc. To all the hunters that have solo'd Thekal, how much health do you and your pet have, and how much armor does your pet have? The problem might be because my gear is outdated, most of my pvp gear is brutal/vengeful from 70 with the exception of a new xbow, hateful boots/belt/ring.
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My gorilla has about 14k health, not sure about armor – I’ll post that next time I log on. Personally I have ~16.5k health and ~11k mana when specced BM. Being honest I have no problem keeping my gorilla alive and I'm baffled why your pet isn’t staying alive unless your pet is not level 80 yet. I would suggest that being in level 70 PvP gear would adversely affect the scaling to your pet, but not enough not to be able to do it. How are you speccing deep BM and speccing your pet to tank? Are they specs like the below:
Hunter: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Pet: Pet Calculator - Wowhead (I found 2/2 Lionhearted good for learning to solo Thekal)
Specced as above my mend pet ticks for around 1650, plus the extra heals from 2 set T5. There can be a few hairy moments when my pet is around 3k health, but when my pet gets stunned and they agro to me that’s usually enough time for three or four ticks to hit my pet getting him back to ~10k health. When Lor'Khan has no mana the heals from the T5 bonus are more then enough to keep my pet up during volley spam, but I generally keep mend pet rolling just in case.
Originally Posted by meccabow
can someone give a good gold table for the bosses? and which bosses are most profitable, considering the 3.08 gold drop nerf.
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Each boss in ZG drops ~24g, but you also need to look at the overall picture if you’re farming ZG for gold. On my server there’s also a good market for Bijou’s for those looking to farm rep for achievements, Tome of Polymorph: Turtle still fetches about 2000 gold on my server and has a 14% drop rate from the Fish boss. Plus there’s the BoE greens, vendoring the drops from the bosses etc – so overall there is some good money to be made, but naturally how profitable each run can be depends on whether there's a market for all of the items that drop on your server.
Last edited by Airraid : 02/02/09 at 9:40 PM.
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02/02/09, 10:18 PM
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chiefly comprised of water
Tsook
Troll Hunter
No WoW Account
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Zath has two CC abilities, blind and gouge. If your pet is facing away from him he will never gouge (requires facing just like the rogue ability). If your pet is low health and desperately needs a few ticks of mend, retarget him on Zath to increase the chance of giving him a respite.
One thing I thought I saw was Lor'khan's lightning shield being a significant increase in damage, so I tried to have the gorilla meleeing one of the other two and just holding aggro on her with thunderstomp. But now that I look it up, her lightning shield is only 8 damage, so even with Serpent's Swiftness + Cobra Reflexes + Frenzy it seems unlikely that really was a significant source of increased damage. More likely when my gorilla was looking at her, he was turning his back to the other two and losing his dodge chance.
Other than that, keep up mend pet and multishot or TBW if his hp are getting low. Time your aotvs for periods when his hp are very full because 2t5 won't be worth much then.
My gorilla had about 20k armor when I did it on saturday, and that was plenty healable. I didn't put on pvp gear because the reduction in my dps would have more than offset, through reduced 2t5, the increase in health.
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02/03/09, 1:04 PM
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Glass Joe
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Anyone got some tips for Bloodlord Mandokir? its the only im unable to down, not sure why, he hit pretty hard and his healing reduction debuff his painful, I manage to kill the raptor pretty fast, but after that it get messy and if he die, even if he revive him, his health are too low to be able to tank it again. My gorilla is only 79 tho, im not sure if this will make a really big difference? If anyone can give me some advice I'll appreciate
Thanks
Last edited by DarkSTorM2000 : 02/07/09 at 2:32 PM.
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02/03/09, 2:07 PM
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#29
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Don Flamenco
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Has anyone done any soloing in MC? I was looking to fill out my rep sheet by farming there but the first pull just overwhelms my pet every time.
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02/03/09, 2:44 PM
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Iru
Has anyone done any soloing in MC? I was looking to fill out my rep sheet by farming there but the first pull just overwhelms my pet every time.
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I've done it a bit.
The Core Hounds, Giants/Destroyer duos, Core Ragers/Surgers are all easily doable for a properly spec'ed tanking pet (at least as BM).
It's the Firelords that present the biggest problem, I was unable to kill them fast enough before they spawn a fire spawn and eventually ended up with a whole bunch of them.
I tried to solo some bosses as well, but apart from Magmadar a pet just gets whacked too fast (especially by the multi-pulls).
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