Hunters: Soloing old instances for fun and profit - Page 39

Shandara · 10/25/10, 2:13 AM

Originally Posted by Hirgux

Geddon is even simpler now.
Hawk eye is gone but you got the range now without talents.

So simply stand on max range and put mend pet on your pet; you don't even need T5.
Hardest part is to get into proper range after his aoe when the pet runs around - but even this isn't that bad anymore, because if you get the debuff you cannot run out of mana anymore.

For the pet issue during his AOE, put him on stay and MD the boss to the pet and hit passive just before he AOEs, so the pet doesn't run around.

Lolbroek · 10/26/10, 5:09 PM

All 6 bosses done with this Beast Mastery spec.

Nalorakk, Jan'alai, Halazzi and Hex Lord Malacrass with a Turtle specced like this

Akil'zon with a Spirit Beast specced like this

Zul'jin with a Spirit Beast specced like this

Nalorakk (Bear boss)

Used a mix of T10 and T5 for pet healing and some Stamina gear. In human form he charges you every once in a while, knocking you back 10 yards and doing some damage to you. Make sure you don't get knocked of the stairs where you entered his platform, he might reset. Save cooldowns for Bear Form, he hits fairly hard.

Jan'alai (Dragonhawk boss)

See post #545 (already did him before 4.01). With the increase in healthpool since 4.01 you can safely reduce the amount of Fire Resistance.

Halazzi (Lynx boss)

Used a mix of T10 and T5 for pet healing and some Stamina gear. In his human form during Phase 1 he hits fairly hard, cooldowns are best used during this phase. It's important to stay at maximum range (35 yards so you can still use Tranquilizing Shot to remove Frenzy) to prepare yourself for Phase 2 that starts as soon as the boss has dropped 25% of his health.
When Phase 2 starts the boss splits into a Troll Spirit and a Lynx Spirit. The Lynx will probably come running up to you so be ready to misdirect it to your pet.
Important! Do not Feign Death here. The Lynx will despawn and the Troll Spirit will be stuck at 1% health if you do so.
The Troll Spirit has some nasty abilities and totems but the good news is that you can all outrange them. Bring either of the 2 Spirits' health back to 20% and Phase 1 starts again, rinse and repeat. When the boss is below 25% health he will enrage so have Last Stand ready.

Akil'zon (Eagle boss)

Used a mix of T7 for increased pet dps and some Nature Resistance gear. Left out T10 in favor of Stamina gear. Flexweave Underlay from Engineering is a must. An addon such as RangeDisplay is a great help here.
Use Rapid Fire and Call of the Wild right at the start of the fight, you want to dps the boss as hard as you can since you will have limited time to do so. Don't waste Bestial Wrath, Spirit Mend or Cower here, you will need those later.
When the boss casts Gust of Wind on you use the parachute to avoid the falling damage. Just before you safely land use Disengage and run away from the boss so your distance to him is 80+ yards to outrange another Gust of Wind.
You do not want to be closer to him whenever your parachute is still on cooldown. Use Kill Command to dps the boss and use Cower and Spirit Mend to keep your pet alive while you are at this distance.
As soon as the Soaring Eagles spawn drop an Explosive Trap and a Snake Trap and use Bestial Wrath to take them out by spamming Arcane Shot. I found that a simple

/targetenemy
/cast Arcane Shot

macro helps alot here (no need to tab through mobs that way, it will target the closest enenemy).
As soon as they are down and your parachute is not on cooldown run up to the boss again to throw a Mend Pet and get yourself a Spirit Mend. Dps as hard as you can before the boss casts Gust of Wind on you again or more Soaring Eagles spawn. If either happens move 80+ yards away from the boss again and repeat the process.
You will have very limited time to dps the boss yourself so anything that increases your pet's dps is a huge help since the boss enrages after approximately 8 minutes.

Hex Lord Malacrass

Used a mix of T10 and T5 for pet healing and some Stamina gear. Kill the adds one by one and kill the boss.
His Soul Drain is a joke for us hunters.

Zul'jin

Used a mix of T10 and T5 for pet healing and some Stamina gear. Any means of healing you have through trinkets or potions help alot for Phase 1.
Send pet to boss and kill off the Troll adds fast and proceed by damaging the boss hard and fast. Use all your offensive cooldowns, you will want to end Phase 1 as quickly as possible.
As soon as the boss casts Grievous Throw on you heal yourself back up to full to remove the debuff and continue damaging the boss. Whenever all your healing abilities are on cooldown use Feign Death and use Cower and Lick Your Wounds to keep your pet alive.
Phase 2 starts when the boss is down to 80% health.
In Bear form be mindful of Creeping Paralysis, a 4 second stun debuff. Keep Mend Pet up to dispell the stun from your pet. Use all the cooldowns you want as you will not need any of them for the next phase.
Phase 3 starts when the boss is down to 60% health.
In Eagle form the boss itself remains stationary and doesn't attack. The only thing you have to worry about is to stay away from the 4 Feather Vortexes. Make sure all cooldowns are up and you and your pet are fully healed for the next phase.
Phase 4 starts when the boss is down to 40% health.
In Lynx form the boss can do some burst damage to you and your pet. Keep yourself up with Spirit Mend and your pet with Mend Pet. If you get low on health use Feign Death and heal yourself back up with Spirit Mend and keep your pet alive with Cower and Lick Your Wounds.
Phase 5 starts when the boss is down to 20% health.
In Dragonhawk Form stand behind the boss to avoid damage from Flame Breath and step out of the Flame Columns quickly.

MizarAlcor · 10/28/10, 1:37 PM

Just a small info, the new beta hunter build brings a buff to the Grace of the Mantis - Spell - World of Warcraft talent, increasing its crit reduction by 3%/6% from 2%/4%. This way, we will essentially gain back the crit immunity that we lost from not being able to impart resilience to help our pets gain crit immunity.

On live, the loss of crit-immunity brought by the last content patch may not seem apparent due to the Mend Pet major buff, but I personally experience it myself for having to keep Mend Pet uptime more frequently when doing raid soloing even with 2T5, compared to pre-patch. This buff surely remedies that situation and opens up an even larger potential for raid soloing once we get to level 85.

kronchev · 11/01/10, 2:28 PM

Originally Posted by Krelle

I'm not completely sure now after patch 4.01, but Geddon used to be a very easy boss because you could outrange most of his abilities with Hawk eye (2,4,6 range). Since hawk eye is gone now it might not be possible to do that anymore, but there are other ways to solo him. I've done it without hawk eye before, and I used some fire resistance gear. You probably want around 250 if not more with a resistance flask, and then something to heal yourself with. Try getting the emblem of frost trinket that absorbs damage, or tame a spirit beast together with spirit bond. That should be enough to keep yourself alive.

You can also just use 3 pieces of tier 1 and just always stay more than 50 yards away from Geddon and just heal your pet, and with 4.01 it might also be possible for your pet to keep itself up with talented growls for tenacity pets or the talent ferocity pets can get that heals them when they deal damage.

All in all there are lots of ways to do this boss. Just try a few things and he will go down.

I just eat everything he does with no special gear; no special flasks, potions.

I engage him at the end of his path, right before the tunnel. I max range so I'm at the edge of the lava, but I make sure I can still unload on him. When I get the explosion, I wait till the last second, then jump in the lava, so it's only about a 2000 damage hit and I take no falling damage. I can always burn him down before the little explosion damages get me even below half health.

/edit: Unrelated: Yesterday I tried 3 times to get the Twilight Corrupter as MM by just kiting him. He is of course Evading on top of his moonwell; the way I get him off is just autoshotting and strafing back and forth as fast as I can hit, and he will teleport onto me. The first time I didn't get dazed from his first hit, he evaded in about 10 seconds, in the open, and teleported back to his spot after a minute. I tried twice more and got him to 60% and it happened every single time, out in the open, not near anything.

I put in a ticket and the GM told me its a known issue. I wish for these "known issues" where I wasn't having a single problem they'd just pander to the player and give me the quest item I was after, especially since this quest line could evaporate any day now (AQ40 opening line). But if anyone was wondering, yes this is a known, annoying issue.

inyu · 11/02/10, 11:20 AM

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/edit: Unrelated: Yesterday I tried 3 times to get the Twilight Corrupter as MM by just kiting him. He is of course Evading on top of his moonwell; the way I get him off is just autoshotting and strafing back and forth as fast as I can hit, and he will teleport onto me. The first time I didn't get dazed from his first hit, he evaded in about 10 seconds, in the open, and teleported back to his spot after a minute. I tried twice more and got him to 60% and it happened every single time, out in the open, not near anything.

I put in a ticket and the GM told me its a known issue. I wish for these "known issues" where I wasn't having a single problem they'd just pander to the player and give me the quest item I was after, especially since this quest line could evaporate any day now (AQ40 opening line). But if anyone was wondering, yes this is a known, annoying issue.

I was having the same problem yesterday, I was going on evade at range attacks and using a pet I couldn't get pass 30% without getting mind controled. I finally kill it with help (1 prot warrior 1 holy pala) although it took us 4 attempts due to warrior getting mind controlled and reseting the boss by evading bug (agro at range). I think that the last attempt was with the holy palla using RF at melee range so the boss just hit him instead of me and not evading.

Krelle · 11/07/10, 9:28 AM

Two bosses of which one of them (Fankriss) is definitely soloable with just enough tries (My best try so far is 11%), and one of them (Maggy) that might be soloable with enough tweaking of tactics (My best try on Maggy was ~50% before he beserked).

I'll start of with Magtheridon since he is far more important in my opinion (If he can be soloed without to many deaths it's 500 gold farmable each week).
I've been very interested in this boss ever since I saw a deathknight solo it, but sadly before patch 4.01 it was completely impossible for a hunter to solo him. After 4.01 went live I quickly began my progress again, and have been trying different strategies so far. I've found, that killing the hellfire channelers isn't possible, or at least not unless you are very lucky, and then it will only be one or possible two. That's why my pet has to tank both Magtheridon and his channelsers + the mobs that are summoned. So far I have been able to keep my pet alive with mend pet (I'm using a stamina heavy set so mend pet tics for ~6000), but I'm also having other problems. The adds spawned by the hellfire channelers don't have aggro on my pet pet and goes after me, and they hit relatively hard. I'm trying to make them go after my pet (the new misdirection glyph works wonders here) but it's difficult. Magtheridon also has some attacks which does aoe damage, and I'm seeing myself go down to it sometimes. I still think he's doable with a good enough tactics though, and I would be very interested in hearing about it, if anyone else are trying him, and what they are doing.

Fankriss isn't that hard with 4.01 out. It's a very random encounter though, and I can easily die if I have bad RNG. I'm using a worm pet for the Burrow attack aoe, and it's very good for killing the little adds. My number 1 priority is to kill the Spawns of Fankriss and apart from that just keeping my pet up and myself of course. Again it would be interesting to hear if anyone else is working on him.

EDIT: 500k try on Magtheridon now before he beserked. He has a 20 minute enrage timer, so around 3000 dps is needed to get him down.

ubehunted · 11/08/10, 2:04 PM

Krell -

Thanks for the idea of the worm on Fankriss. Started working on him this last reset, but Im not getting past the first set of spawns, they enrage and I usually have some of the little ones still up and my turtle is going down once the healing debuff stacks to about 8. I miss volley! Was considering trying this as survival for the increase dmg from exposive traps but I think the worm is a better idea - worm sure works great on the core hound packs in MC.

How are you dealing with the healing debuff stacks on the pet?

Krelle · 11/08/10, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by ubehunted

Krell -

Thanks for the idea of the worm on Fankriss. Started working on him this last reset, but Im not getting past the first set of spawns, they enrage and I usually have some of the little ones still up and my turtle is going down once the healing debuff stacks to about 8. I miss volley! Was considering trying this as survival for the increase dmg from exposive traps but I think the worm is a better idea - worm sure works great on the core hound packs in MC.

How are you dealing with the healing debuff stacks on the pet?

A worm’s burrow attack does make it a lot easier on Fankriss. Not only does it help keeping agro on all the adds. It also does a very high amount of damage and most of the time my worm can kill the small adds by itself with it.

And the debuff. I started off by using distracting shot on Fankriss to joggle agro between me and my pet to wear it off, but that was a mess and it didn’t go well. Then I found out by accident that the debuff actually seems to wear off by itself after 10 stacks and start from 1 stack again. My pet doesn’t have the biggest problems staying alive, so having it receive 0% healing for a little while isn’t a problem. Sometimes I’m even waiting to use mend pet until burrow attack is off cd to help my pet keeping agro.

Edit: Magtheridon downed solo yesterday! Since I did it just after reset it'll take a bit before I'll be able to fraps him.

Fluflis · 11/12/10, 4:13 AM

Originally Posted by Krelle

And the debuff. I started off by using distracting shot on Fankriss to joggle agro between me and my pet to wear it off, but that was a mess and it didn’t go well. Then I found out by accident that the debuff actually seems to wear off by itself after 10 stacks and start from 1 stack again. My pet doesn’t have the biggest problems staying alive, so having it receive 0% healing for a little while isn’t a problem. Sometimes I’m even waiting to use mend pet until burrow attack is off cd to help my pet keeping agro.

Can you give us information about the gear you used?

Lolbroek · 11/12/10, 5:24 AM

I would be very interested to know the gear and spec(s) used by yourself and your pet for these 2 bosses Krelle.
They seem to be the only 2 bosses confirmed possible to solokill pre Catacyslm that I haven't managed to kill yet.
The long corpseruns (especcially for Fankriss!) kinda made me postpone trying to kill them.
If you are looking for a new challenge you might wanna check out the Lurker Below in Serpentshrine Cavern; I gave up on it due to my pet bugging out after phase change, but I think if executed right he can be solo killed pre Cata.

Does anyone know when Grace of the Mantis is changed up to 6% crit reduction btw? Really missing my crit immune pet on some fights, mostly on big trash pulls in SSC and some bosses in Zul Aman.

Slightly offtopic: What new bosses do you think we will be able to kill in Cataclysm?

Krelle · 11/12/10, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lolbroek

I would be very interested to know the gear and spec(s) used by yourself and your pet for these 2 bosses Krelle.
They seem to be the only 2 bosses confirmed possible to solokill pre Catacyslm that I haven't managed to kill yet.
The long corpseruns (especcially for Fankriss!) kinda made me postpone trying to kill them.
If you are looking for a new challenge you might wanna check out the Lurker Below in Serpentshrine Cavern; I gave up on it due to my pet bugging out after phase change, but I think if executed right he can be solo killed pre Cata.

Does anyone know when Grace of the Mantis is changed up to 6% crit reduction btw? Really missing my crit immune pet on some fights, mostly on big trash pulls in SSC and some bosses in Zul Aman.

Slightly offtopic: What new bosses do you think we will be able to kill in Cataclysm?

As already said, since I killed Magtheridon Wednesday just after the reset, I’ll have to wait until he is back up again to be able to make a movie of him. Because of all the questions I’ve got concerning Fankriss I decided to go back into Aq40 though and just get him down and film it. The result can be viewed here: YouTube - Krelleh vs Temple of Ahn'Qiraj part 2: Fankriss the Unyielding WOTLK

Since mend pet heals for such a big number in 4.01, I was able to ignore the healing debuff, so the only thing I focused on was killing the spawns and keeping myself up through all the damage.

About Serpentshrine caverns: I have been in there and Tempest keep a few times post 4.01 and most of the trash is easy to get down. Some of the bosses also seems soloable with the right tactic and especially Morogrim is a boss I want to try out. The trash before him (murloc packs) doesn’t seem to be able to be killed at the moment though, since I’m having big problems with agro on them and them healing eachother.

Cataclysm will be a great step forward for hunters soloing mainly because of the way the new mend pet works. Right now I think hunters will have around 80k health with normal dungeon gear, and you can add a lot of stamina to that if you use stamina gems and enchants. My pet has the same amount of health as I do at the moment, so together with buffs our pets can probably reach 110k health in Cataclysm. Glyphed mend pet heals 40% over 10 seconds or 5% every 2, and you can add the +heal talents our pets have to that.
Things like Serpentshrine, Hyjal, Black Temple, Sunwell and Tempest keep will become soloable at 85 just like Molten Core and other vanilla raids did at 80.

You can see the gear/spec I was using by looking at the armory. t5 was not used since mend pet heals for more with 80 gear. I had my two Onyxia healing trinkets on, and I had mostly stamina gems on with a few agility gems left over from Magtheridon progress

Edit: For those waiting for more info on the Mag solo don't worry. I've been working on something for this boss and it should be done ''soon''.

Heuristic · 11/13/10, 12:53 AM

First off, I've found this an invaluable resource. I clear all of MC, ZG, AQ20, Kara (including Netherspite and Illhoof but not Nightbane, as I haven't spent time on him yet). And today, I downed Prophet. My thanks to those who provided some of the more specific strategies (Netherspite, Illhoof, Prophet).

This week I'm stuck on Romulo and Julianne. I'm working with Krelle's strategy from post #517. Following it closely, the part that sticks me up is positioning in p3. I can't seem to get the two separated enough to be able to DPS Romulo and stay out of Julianne's range (and either i die from Julianne if i'm in range or my pet dies for lack of 2pc t5 healing if I'm out). They stack one on top of each other, and pet movement seems to bug out on the opera floor. Has anyone run into this problem recently?

And Krelle, could you briefly elaborate on the Mag kill? Were you in full stamina gear? Approximately how much health did your pet have? Did you use 2pc t5 or Ony HP5 trinkets? A normally-specc'd turtle? And could you share a brief rundown on the tactics you used?

Thanks.

bowbaq · 11/13/10, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by Krelle

The trash before him (murloc packs) doesn’t seem to be able to be killed at the moment though, since I’m having big problems with agro on them and them healing eachother.

if I remember correctly, pulling morogrim & FD will despawn all murlocs in the room.

DreamScaper · 11/18/10, 1:56 PM

Since BM is more pet focused DPS than pre 4.01, would using Beast Tamer's Shoulders for fights we care about pet DPS be useful, or will the stats loss not be worth it?

Krelle · 11/20/10, 9:16 PM

Hi everyone. Another reset and another chance to kill Magtheridon this week, so I have finally been able to fraps a kill of him and make a movie out of it. You can watch it here: YouTube - Hunter solos: Magtheridon

If you have the right gear for it (at least one Onyxia trinket is needed I think) it’s another way to farm 500g each week. The fight took a long time since I couldn’t stand still and dps and my pet had to do most of the damage, but with Icecrown Hc gear and Cata gear in the future I’m sure that it will be very easily farmable.

I've done some working on Al'ar and I have found out that the dps needed to kill him shouldn't be a problem, so if it's possible for a hunter to stay alive during the fight he should be soloable also.