Hunters: Soloing old instances for fun and profit - Page 41

S7rider · 12/01/10, 4:47 AM

Hi Krelle

Excellent work and an avid fan, i attempted to solo the trash in Hyjal yesterday, however i had difficulties aoeing the adds, my gear is no way near optimal (just returned to the game after quitting post naxx) ive picked up some bits and peices.

Ive noticed that my pet isnt able to hold enough aggro, even tho im spamming MD and multishotting, its keeping my pet alive with the t5 set bonus. acouple of questions,

1- for rage, you need to be outside the 45 yeard range as ice bolt is a killer, in that case were you using the t1 3set bonus? if not how did you get in range with out being hit by the bolts considering mend pet has a 45 range cast,

2- Where did you position the waves of adds, i was trying to bring them towards the npcs inorder to increase the damage done to adds, but i noticed this wasted alot of dps time + if i didnt pick the adds up right by the entrances, they just split up and started to attack different areas.

3- did you use the worm for the waves for more aggro, i noticed that the serpent spread dots which was causing aggro and healing aggro was hard to control.

if you could fraps it this reset that would be apprecahted alot

ravencs · 12/01/10, 11:41 AM

VR requires some practice but isnt a hard boss. since 4.0 im killing him in every reset. Im using aspect of the cheetah and my normal pve gear, pet was spirit beast. you can cast steady shots between almost every arcane orb cast and can nuke him while pounding. KC and BW must be on cd every time.
the trash is a lot harder than the boss itself. i kill first the mechanics because they killing me the rest of the mobs do almost nothing you cannot handle.

Krelle · 12/01/10, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by S7rider

Hi Krelle

Excellent work and an avid fan, i attempted to solo the trash in Hyjal yesterday, however i had difficulties aoeing the adds, my gear is no way near optimal (just returned to the game after quitting post naxx) ive picked up some bits and peices.

Ive noticed that my pet isnt able to hold enough aggro, even tho im spamming MD and multishotting, its keeping my pet alive with the t5 set bonus. acouple of questions,

1- for rage, you need to be outside the 45 yeard range as ice bolt is a killer, in that case were you using the t1 3set bonus? if not how did you get in range with out being hit by the bolts considering mend pet has a 45 range cast,

2- Where did you position the waves of adds, i was trying to bring them towards the npcs inorder to increase the damage done to adds, but i noticed this wasted alot of dps time + if i didnt pick the adds up right by the entrances, they just split up and started to attack different areas.

3- did you use the worm for the waves for more aggro, i noticed that the serpent spread dots which was causing aggro and healing aggro was hard to control.

if you could fraps it this reset that would be apprecahted alot

The video: YouTube - Hunter solos: Rage winterchill & first 8/8 waves (hyjal)

It's only Winterchills frosttombs that have a 45 yard range and they hit for much less. His frostbolts hit for 7000 damage and tomb you and they have a 40 yard range. You can find my gear by searching on the armory on Eu.
I was using my normal (stamina gemmed) pve gear and 1 onyxia trinket, t5 and the emblem of ice tank trinket for waves and 2 onyxia trinkets and t5 for Winterchill.
Just stay more than 40 yards away from him and you should be able to stay alive with maybe just bandages. If you can't then just run in and out to apply mend pet and keep kill command on cd.

You can see in my video where I position the waves (at the entrance) and I kill them by my self to safe both time and the alliance adds to help kill Rage winterchill. A turtle is needed for waves I think but a spirit beast might be good enough for winterchill and then you have a good self-heal (spirit mend). Just remember to spam misdirection before every multishot (I used this rotation on adds: MD-multishot-explosivetrap-steadyshot2x-MD-mulitshot).

Vallkor · 12/01/10, 11:43 PM

Has anyone tried Black Temple? I've glanced through and may have missed it if there's been discussion on it.

I went in tonight to farm some rep and figured I'd give Supremus a try. Killed him on the first go, but it was pretty hectic and there's certainly room for improvement. I had a few friends help me get past Najentus (I don't *think* he can be solo'd due to the spine/shield mechanic, but there may be a way). Akama should be doable as well and I'll be trying him shortly here.

ubehunted · 12/09/10, 7:52 PM

Here is a video I did awhile back, just following the hints given by Krelleh.
It was my first R&J solo kill, and the gorilla pet was missing due to being level 77, so it took longer.
Got it the next week, and it was a good 2x faster kill with L80 pet.

YouTube - Hunter solo Karazhan Opera Romulo and Julianne

Enjoy.

Heuristic · 12/14/10, 10:13 AM

I haven't had too much time to do extensive extreme soloing at 85 yet, but I did take the time to go visit the Bank of Outlands and make withdraws from Kazzak, Doomwalker, and Magtheridon. (I recommend you check for them on your servers. Those who might normally kill them are likely distracted in Azeroth...) The first two were absolutely trivial with a DPS-specc'd spirit beast, and Mag was doable without too much trouble. I was able to follow Krelle's video, with the advantage of AotFox and my only self-healing coming from Spirit Bond. Some general thoughts that probably won't surprise anyone:

-The new health pools are wonderful. I'm sitting at ~110k hp unbuffed, and somewhere 81k and 110k for my pets, depending on spec. On my full survivability-specc'd turtle with 106k hp, Mend Pet ticks for 13062k and 2/2 Silverback growl heals for 3266.

-Fights that required Onyxia trinkets are doable using Spirit Bond as a replacement. At lvl85, Spirit Bond is roughly the equivalent of 1000hp/5, or wearing both trinkets. That said, the Ony trinkets may not be obsolete, as they would still double BM's self-healing. As I don't have either of the trinkets, I cannot test that portion.

-2pct5 is much, much less valuable, at least initially, for BM builds. Because of the gear reset and lvl80 combat rating conversions, hunter-only BM DPS is barely better than it was in 277 gear at lvl80. A hunter doing 5k dps "from the bow" would contribute ~750hps, while Mend Pet alone ticking every 2sec for 12k would contribute 6khps. Silverback contributes more healing than 2pct5; in my experience, the healing is negligible at this point. For MM and SV builds, this may not necessarily be the case, since their "from the bow" DPS is much higher, but I have yet to test this. Its healing would still be secondary to that of Mend Pet.

-Camouflage is nice for skipping trash, but it isn't stealth. Don't expect to skip straight to the boss, but it can certainly save you time.

Heuristic · 12/14/10, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nooska

Mend Pet ticking for 12k is 6k hps, it ticks 5 times over 10 seconds - i.e. every 2 seconds. The 3 second tick was the old 15 second MP.

Oh, my mistake. I'll edit the above to reflect that.

26thraider · 12/14/10, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Heuristic

I haven't had too much time to do extensive extreme soloing at 85 yet, but I did take the time to go visit the Bank of Outlands and make withdraws from Kazzak, Doomwalker, and Magtheridon. (I recommend you check for them on your servers. Those who might normally kill them are likely distracted in Azeroth...) The first two were absolutely trivial with a DPS-specc'd spirit beast, and Mag was doable without too much trouble. I was able to follow Krelle's video, with the advantage of AotFox and my only self-healing coming from Spirit Bond.

If Spirit Bond was enough, then an MM spec wouldn't have too much trouble either. The main loss is the pet damage, pet talents and consequently pet threat. The 10% extra healing is of course not to be neglected, but it seems healing wasn't really an issue.
But as said, MM should be able to do it with a liberal use of MD (glyphed of course) and FD. FD can be used a bit more often as the selfhealing from Chimera should outperform Spirit Bond rather handedly (5% vs 2.2% per 10).

In fact MM has become a pretty powerful solobuild overall, but I would say on a fight where hard DPS and survivability are in combination required, BM should still be the spec to pick. But for the rest of us who just want to kill a few bosses here and there, MM should be plenty good.

mole · 12/18/10, 5:25 PM

Void Reaver soloable, was an easy 250gold, PvE-gear, AotF, Surv (3/7/31) and Turtle-pet, ran circles around him (literally) also tried Anub'Rhekan got him down to 50% before my pet got killed, this time in BM-spec and Turtle-pet, has anyone tried him? Got any tips?

Kcow · 12/18/10, 8:22 PM

Hey guys, im a avid reader here.
This is what i soloed/attempted so far in 85 gear.

NAXX 10

Sapphiron
spec: 7/31/3
pet: turtle
aspect: fox
special gear: none
strat: ran around in circles doing dmg avoiding blizzard. key is to keep dmg up since he casts "drain life" And must keep yourself healed with chimera shot. ALWAYS fire when cool down is up or else you might die near the end of the fight.
(im sure ony trinkets will help but i don't have access to them)
took about 10 mins to kill.
(if you dont have key to maly, you can finally get it and start working on him like i did today!)
Patchwerk
-does way to much dmg to pet, got like to 85%?

Anub'Rhekan
go around 60%-70% before i died taking to much fall dmg. (any tip?s haven't attempted much)

Malygos 10
This is what im currently focused on atm.
after spending about 2-3 hours on this boss i managed to get him into phase 2 with 3 mins left on enrage before my pet died, but i made some careless mistakes and there is plenty of room to improve. (not stacking orbs)
he has a 10 min enrage timer so you must get him into phase 2 will as little health as possible before the adds comes. (less damage to do while riding the dragon in phase 3)
Problem with this fight is that when he throws you up in the air in phase 1 and deals 2000 a tick, your pet will despawn and lose all current aggro, but you CAN call your pet back mid air and MD him so once you hit the ground you can FD and continue to dps.

Key Trick to this fight is you must stack those orbs for more dmg.
problem for me is after spinning in the air, there is little time for you to MD, FD, Find orb, move pet, kill orb, continue dps. might try a different pet or something to move him faster since i am using a turtle just to learn the fight and understand the mechanics to solo it.
spec im using is 7/31/3 for heals because he does this arcane bolt every now and then for 10k dmg and spining in the cyclone deals 2k a every sec. i believe this fight can be solo'd but everything must be perfect! phase 3 shouldnt be a problem, i remember doing that boss when the raid died and i was still up doing damage and healing/shielding myself. (i need to dust the cobwebs though)

CATA
Stonecore "N"
Slabhide: tank n spank
Ozruk: tank n spank (his ground slam just tickles my turtle)

Question:
Does Slabhide drop the epic mount in normal? i heard yes and no?

Burning Crusade:
Mag = dead
Voidreaver = dead
Rage winter chill = dead
Anetheron (got to 60% by keeping dps high and venom up at all time to reduce the healing he receives, i noticed that when you FD when he is casting a inferno he will stop casting. so that may be a trick to use. also something they despawn when you FD as soon as they land.)

Gonna stick my head in sunwell sometime soon.

if you have any questions, i'll be reading, might post kill videos because im unemployed and something to keep me busy haha!

Vreil · 12/18/10, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kcow

CATA
Stonecore "N"
Slabhide: tank n spank
Ozruk: tank n spank (his ground slam just tickles my turtle)

Question:
Does Slabhide drop the epic mount in normal? i heard yes and no?

how you get to slaghide? I'm standing in front of the pack of elites that block the path onwards in the instance and i cant get past
and according to wowhead he drops the drake on normal aswell

Kcow · 12/19/10, 1:51 AM

Originally Posted by Vreil

how you get to slaghide? I'm standing in front of the pack of elites that block the path onwards in the instance and i cant get past
and according to wowhead he drops the drake on normal aswell

gotta clear the trash, i tried just killing manastorm and ignoring the other trash mobs but he will just pingpong back to the last group of trash, so once you get manastorm to where the worm boss is, you can just camo right past him and past all other trash straight too slaghide.

3 clears of beginning trash and you can start at slaghide

Goldschakal · 12/19/10, 2:27 AM

Gj Kcow, gonna try slabhide alao.

So i did yesterday 3/6 in SSC

The Lurker Below: He doesnst do really much dmg. if the adds are coming use feign death and than attack them.
care about the Spout, if you will get hit your pet will despawn. avoided this also sometime with disengage. in the end a really easy boss

Morogrim Tidewalker: if he calling after his adds just use feign death and the adds will despawn. you also should kill all the trash near him. easy tank and spank

Leotheras the Blind: you should have much hps for this fight, i used chimera and this soulbound skill in beastmaster t2. at normal phase his whirlwind doenst do really much dmg. but the demon phase was hard at the start. i stacked this debuff up till 8-10times and used than feign death, so he stoped casting. was kinda close with 30sec till enrage with avarage 6k dps (10min enrage)

naxx 2/12

Noth the Plaguebringer: if he is calling after his adds wait till there are near you and than use feign death, the will despawn =) rest is tank and spank

Heigan the Unclean: That Boss is awesome to play.
you must have improved pet healing atleast 1/2 (i had 2/2). you also have to be 20yards away cuz this debuff, which is really strong. and dont forget to heal your pet when you are dancing.

Originally Posted by Kcow

Anub'Rhekan
go around 60%-70% before i died taking to much fall dmg. (any tip?s haven't attempted much)

try things like noggenfogger and ingi Parachute. also you can use disengage

gl, im gonna go now slabhide =)

and sorry for my broken english ;(

P.S. slabhide is droping the mount also in normalmode

Kcow · 12/20/10, 3:19 PM

Archavon the Stone Watcher - 10 Man Soloed
YouTube - Hunter Solo's: Archavon 10 man (Cataclysm - Patch 4.0.3a)
It was a lucky kill, but a kill at least.

Spec: 0/9/32
Buffs: Drums of Forgotten Kings, Elixir of the Master, 90agi/90stam food, Dense Embersilk Bandage
Pet: Turtle
Special gear: None

Strategy: Boss will enrage after 5 minutes of combat. He has 2,300,925 health so that means in order to kill him before he 1 shots you and your pet, you will need (And i already did the math) 7669.75 dps. I did many attempts as Marksman for self heals, but the dps is very low, because you will be moving a lot.
Survival is your best bet to beat the enrage. Although you will have to avoid taking damage as much as possible and use bandages.

Through out the fight he will pick up your pet and go straight for you. Do not attempt to FD when he has your pet or else the encounter will reset. Try to space yourself away from the boss when he is about to pick up your pet.
Time your MD and FD as soon as your pet is released and has aggro on the boss.
Rinse and Repeat.

Tips: Spirit Beast's might be a good pet choice as well but watch his health carefully. I don't own one so i couldn't try.

Good luck!

mole · 12/21/10, 4:27 AM

Wiped on Sartharion 0D 10man on 2% yesterday, gonna try him again after christmas shopping, but he is doable

(got help killing off the dragons to make it 0D instead of 3D)