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Old 12/30/11, 7:08 PM   #931
Szalor
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First time trying yogg-saron, I have a problem with tentacles when arriving in p2: I FD, but they don't despawn. I'm pretty sure I do it wrong: too late or too early, but I already tried many times. Could someone confirm that it hasn't been fixed in one of previous patches, please?

Edit: sometimes, after I FDed, tentacles attacked my pet, and once, one tentacle just neither attack nor despawn. Strange mechanics, I hope the 4.3 patch didn't fix the FD trick, otherwise bye bye yogg saron soloings!

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Old 12/31/11, 3:26 PM   #932
Onin
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To answer the previous difficulties with Razorscale:

Pet Taunt does not seem to work on her, at least it didn't help me much. However, the solution for Feign Death is fairly simple: Cast it when she uses her Flame Breath. Despawns don't happen when the boss is busy casting abilities.

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Old 12/31/11, 6:34 PM   #933
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you gain bans very fast (that is no criticism, your forum, your rules!)
English not being my mother language, I'm quite not sure I understand what that means. Would you mind developping a bit, please?
Besides, criticism - wether it be accepted or rejected - is how society went to Autoritarism to Democracy. So feedback is always appreciated.

P.S: Is it about how I don't really take time to point out other people's world firsts? Once you think of it, it does seem a bit unfair. Better start taking the habit. Just one thing: I would like not to look 5 times at a video to write a guide, so for those making guides: continue, for the others: please explain when to use what, what pet switches you do, the errors easely made, etc... Thank you.

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Old 01/01/12, 2:10 PM   #934
Durendil
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Tried Yogg-Saron today.
He recieved the following changes:
Sara will attack you in Phase 2 no matter what.
Corruptor tentacles don't despawn. However, if they spawn far away from you and you FD after they spawn, they won't attack you. (unless they aggro your pet, happens sometimes).
Adds in Phase 3 won't despawn.

So it seems possible with 4 or 3 keepers, but even harder than before.


Edit: After having a bit of fun with Noth 25 and Anub'rekhan 25, I discovered the deal. Add aggroing has changed.
Before, adds spawning didn't aggro your pet if they were too far away.
Now they do if you FD before they aggro something.

Example:
Noth: When skeletons spawn, you FD. Before, they would just stand there. Now, they go after your pet.
When skeletons spawn, they aggro you after 5-6 seconds. You FD. They despawn.

Anub'rekhan.
Pet at the far side of the room.
A crypt guard spawns. You FD. Before, he would stand there. Now, he attacks your pet.
A crypt guard spawns. He aggros you. You FD. He despawns.

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Old 01/03/12, 6:18 PM   #935
Durendil
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Hello!
Just a little link to my last soloings Durendil : Hunter soloing: Vezax Hard Mode and Loathed 25 down!

Meanwhile, I wonder when I will be able to compress Sartharion's 25 video...

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Old 01/06/12, 2:50 PM   #936
Swát
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Anub'arak (EU)
Hello.
After having read the whole thread I miss some videos about kills like Teron Gorefiend, Gurtogg, Reliquiar and so on.

Therefore i made some videos myself:
Teron Gorefiend:
Teron Gorefiend vs. Hunter (solo) - YouTube
This was my first video. The sound is horrible. I am sorry.

Gurtogg Bloodboil:
Gurtogg Bloodboil vs. Hunter (solo) - YouTube

Little tactical guides you can see in the descriptions.

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Old 01/09/12, 7:16 PM   #937
Dartemis
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Aszune (EU)
You mention doing OS25 man: I have tried googling and searching the forum and this post for info but either the info isnt out there or I'm missing it (incase I get another infraction for simply asking a question); Is there a way to solo the 3rd dragon? Where you must enter the portal? I always have to grab a friend into the instance which is kind of a pain.

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Old 01/09/12, 7:45 PM   #938
Onin
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Grabbing a friend is sadly the only way, I've tried everything possible to stop the despawn or to kill Sartharion with that drake still up but no success. Which also means 3D is probably impossible, unless someone manages to achieve the 55k DPS necessary to kill him before he gets shielded.

I've noticed a weird change in Razorgore's behavior this week. Beforehand I had no trouble using the evade glitch to bug out the add triggers and solo him that way, but now he always suicides with the "I'm free of the orb's control" line and takes me with him. Since this has never happened before, I assume Blizzard fixed him? :<

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Old 01/12/12, 6:14 AM   #939
Durendil
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Sorry, forgot to make a post about it.

Sartharion 25 guide and video: Durendil : Hunter soloing: Sartharion 25 down

So, as Onin said, for the third drake you need is a friend, or a second account (he doesn't even have to dps, just survive long enough for you to get out of the portal). I doubt you could solo him with snake trap, but maybe a cardboard assassin would work.

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Old 01/12/12, 5:07 PM   #940
Onin
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After some experimentation with Twin Emps, I can confirm the fight plausible. My gear isn't amazing (385 with LFR Deathwing weapons) and I've been able to make Vek'nilash very gradually lose life.

The tactics should be relatively simple:
1. Keep up Widow Venom on Vek'Nilash, Serpent Sting on Vek'Lor
2. Use a standard hard-cast Aimed Shot rotation, where all SS and AI are aimed at Vek'Nilash, and all CS and AS are aimed at Vek'Lor.
3. Stay out of the blizzard to reduce damage taken and Misdirect as soon as they do a teleport.
You can survive for a LONG time even with Vek'lor and the large adds hitting you, so it all comes down to having enough gear to grind through that selfheal.

A full-on Magic damage rotation aimed at Vek'lor doesn't do more damage than the above tactic. Perhaps a Survival spec may be able to have success with rushing down Vek'lor while a pet offtanks Vek'nilash, but I don't have the experience with the spec to try it out.

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Old 01/13/12, 6:02 AM   #941
Sepultura
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Originally Posted by Onin View Post
After some experimentation with Twin Emps, I can confirm the fight plausible. My gear isn't amazing (385 with LFR Deathwing weapons) and I've been able to make Vek'nilash very gradually lose life.

The tactics should be relatively simple:
1. Keep up Widow Venom on Vek'Nilash, Serpent Sting on Vek'Lor
2. Use a standard hard-cast Aimed Shot rotation, where all SS and AI are aimed at Vek'Nilash, and all CS and AS are aimed at Vek'Lor.
3. Stay out of the blizzard to reduce damage taken and Misdirect as soon as they do a teleport.
You can survive for a LONG time even with Vek'lor and the large adds hitting you, so it all comes down to having enough gear to grind through that selfheal.

A full-on Magic damage rotation aimed at Vek'lor doesn't do more damage than the above tactic. Perhaps a Survival spec may be able to have success with rushing down Vek'lor while a pet offtanks Vek'nilash, but I don't have the experience with the spec to try it out.
The problem with going other specs but MM is the heals.

I dont dedicate to much time to solos but you could also go BM. Pet atacking phisical one, you atacking caster.

You can macro glyfted Raptor Strike to target the closest enemy, hit him, and back to the same target, more because of the enraged adds hiting you.

If you realy want to maximize dps you can make macros (target=whatever) so all your spells hit the caster but the auto shot is still hiting the phisical one.

Either way, I might try them as BM. Got better heals then SV, you dont have agro problems and the dps, on this fight, might be the greatest of all 3 just because you dont need MD all the time.


OT: sorry my profile not showing my character but my server isnt on the list and my 2 mails had no reply. My server is Aggra-portugues and not just Aggra like it shows on the list.

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Old 01/13/12, 9:04 AM   #942
Onin
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You pretty much have to MD after a teleport to prevent Vek'nilash from running up to you. Your pet will take a little while to get back to him and depending on their distance he might reach you in melee which costs you more DPS than a single MD click would.

Oh, I just realized: Targeting Vek'lor likely won't work because you cannot Widow Venom him. You'd need a LOT more DPS on him to break through the healing than on Vek'nilash with the help of Widow. Dealing additional damage to him is still worth it, though, as they share all damage taken. Vek'lor only heals stronger.

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Old 01/14/12, 11:13 AM   #943
Chaser
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I was going for the Ouro gun this morning but my usual partner for doing Twin Emps wasn't on. With my new gear and the changes to widow venom I figured they could be soloable now. I was right, I did it today as BM, was quite easy actually.

Spec : Some weird BM spec not tailored for this fight at all (pretty sure this would be easily doable with spirit bond MM spec as well)
Gear : ivl 389, 4pcT13
Pet : Spirit beast specced 100% for dmg
Length : about 10 min, didn't pay attention to exact time it took but certainly more than 6min
Tactic :
1. Made sure to keep widow venom on melee emp at all times
2. I used a focus macro for serpent sting and arcane shot on magic emp. I had just woken up and my eyes were still glued together so I was dumb and didn't even use a macro for cobra shot on magic emp. Instead I used steady on melee emp. Obviously a macro for cobra would have been way better.
3. Whenever adds built up I'd feign death, MD and spam multi on melee emp a couple of times, or lay down explosive traps at my feet. I didn't really care if I aggroed neutral adds since they died pretty fast. You can also move toward the melee emp and in a circle around it and multi on the boss and it will often kill the little adds on you much like in DS when you clump up on yorshaj.
4. Obviously MDing between ports is useful but as BM even if I messed that up my pet would get aggro back very fast.

Note: On Wikki they say that since they share a health pool, and since Magic emp has less HP, the dmg you do on magic emp reflects more dmg on melee emp. For example, since magic emp has 1M HP, and melee emp 1.6M HP, if you do 1000 dmg on magic emp, the melee one takes 1600 dmg. I don't know if it's true but after doing 100% physical dmg on my first try (with steady, multi and kill command on melee emp) splitting my dmg between the two proved to be MUCH faster for me.

Basically, with the gear I add, the new widow venom, and proper macros the fight was a cake walk. I don't know if it's world first, but even if it is, it's only because I was one of the first to go as a geared BM with the right macros, I expect many videos on it soon.

EDIT:

BTW, I hope no one uses the send pet in and feign death method against Skeram anymore. Just dismiss pet and do it without a pet. To gain distance you climb the stairs and jump off the stone structure, Skeram has to go around and you can shoot him while he does that. It's a lot faster that way.

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Old 01/14/12, 2:19 PM   #944
Onin
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You can stay out of Mind Control range for Skeram. The range on MC is 40 yards, but as his model is rather large you can attack him from more than 40 yards away. Killing him this way is extremely easy.

I've been doing some Freya attempts, and I really can't see any effective way to get rid of the Lasher adds. Durendil wrote he feigns death and then just spams Multishot whilst running around them, but I take so much damage doing this that I can't survive two spawns of Lashers in one attempt. Should I just pray for luck to only get one Lasher spawn?

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Old 01/14/12, 4:13 PM   #945
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For freya, there is always 2 lasher spawns.
The lashers run as fast as you do when they are stunned. What I did was FD to group them up, then spam multi-shot and run like hell. In a strait line, not around them. With pet on passive so he would be in healing range. If you need to turn, use the big tree, so lashers don't take a shortcut. Of course, since with current gear we have more than enough dps for the elemental trio, it's a good idea to use Rapid Fire.
But then again, last time I tried Freya, I couldn't handle the lashers either (and I was the one who killed her in the first place)... They really are difficult. It's a matter of practice.

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