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Old 04/24/12, 11:37 PM   #1036
Goldschakal
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You guide about Kilnara is not really good. But lets do constructive criticism. You dont try dodge her leash, which is not a good idea. Her actual cooldown on leash is only 10seconds, so if you get unlucky, can get 3leashes in 30seconds, which would kill you. Attack her only while she casts Shadow Bolt, while you have Intervene ready or while she is channeling Blood of Tears. Another criticism point would be the Adds. There is no need to kill her adds. Simply reset her adds with feign death. Overall you will save about 5-6minutes each kill and you take much less risk to die in p1.
If you dont know what i mean with resetting her adds with feign death, you can watch my old video: Zul Gurub Kilnara Heroic 2man - YouTube
Its 2man, yes, but its the same tactic i did use to kill her various times solo. P.S: That kill is pretty bad, it was one of our worst 2man kills :P

About Kael'Thas: I killed Kaelthas in the last two weeks 8times (on various characters) and i did not have any problems.

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Old 04/25/12, 2:43 AM   #1037
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Originally Posted by Goldschakal View Post
You guide about Kilnara is not really good. But lets do constructive criticism. You dont try dodge her leash, which is not a good idea.
That's not a video representing all the things Itried to do, that's just the first strategy that worked. As I said in the video I don't really have any interest in doing that boss, but a guide was requested, and since when you do a search for hunter solo'ing that boss the feedback you get is pretty scarce.

Perhaps tagging your video you made with "solo", or something of that nature, would lead to it coming up when people are looking for information on the topic. I realize your video isn't a solo, but if the information in it could be used to solo I don't see anything wrong with putting it in the tags so it comes up by search result.

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Old 04/30/12, 6:32 AM   #1038
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Hi and sorry for my bad english

About this Kilnara solo, i'm trying to do it these days but there is the thing : On every single encounter she keep using Lash when my intervention in on CD.
So basicly there is 2 questions. Is there any way to survive a Lash when you have no CD ? and if not, is there any way to avoid or denie her Lash ?

I actualy tried to reduce damages with raptor and deterance but it's not enought if you are not a 100% health ( or close to ). I also use stamina scroll, food and BOK from items to improve my stamina which get me to 180K HP. I assume that it's enought to succed this encounter since i saw few videos with lot less HP.

Thanks for the guides anyway !

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Old 04/30/12, 12:37 PM   #1039
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Originally Posted by Tydas View Post
Hi and sorry for my bad english

About this Kilnara solo, i'm trying to do it these days but there is the thing : On every single encounter she keep using Lash when my intervention in on CD.
So basicly there is 2 questions. Is there any way to survive a Lash when you have no CD ? and if not, is there any way to avoid or denie her Lash ?

I actualy tried to reduce damages with raptor and deterance but it's not enought if you are not a 100% health ( or close to ). I also use stamina scroll, food and BOK from items to improve my stamina which get me to 180K HP. I assume that it's enought to succed this encounter since i saw few videos with lot less HP.

Thanks for the guides anyway !
Line of sight her around a corner with your pet still in line of sight and just shoot her when she is channeling Tears or you have intervene up.

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Old 04/30/12, 12:40 PM   #1040
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Originally Posted by Tydas View Post
Hi and sorry for my bad english

About this Kilnara solo, i'm trying to do it these days but there is the thing : On every single encounter she keep using Lash when my intervention in on CD.
So basicly there is 2 questions. Is there any way to survive a Lash when you have no CD ? and if not, is there any way to avoid or denie her Lash ?

I actualy tried to reduce damages with raptor and deterance but it's not enought if you are not a 100% health ( or close to ). I also use stamina scroll, food and BOK from items to improve my stamina which get me to 180K HP. I assume that it's enought to succed this encounter since i saw few videos with lot less HP.

Thanks for the guides anyway !
It's a very RNG based solo encounter, if she decides to hit you while Intervene is on CD, just gauge it and see if it's something you can recover from. If Deterrence is off CD, as well as bandage, it might be recoverable if the next ability she uses is the Wave. As I mentioned in the video, don't hesitate to put Bandage on CD if you can use most of it's healing, just toss a Mend Pet out, LOS the boss, and Bandage. As long as she's not in the middle of casting her AOE spell as that has a tick at the end that penetrates LoS. Always save Readiness for a double Chimera for heals, no reason to use it for DPS in first phase really. If you don't think you can recover just dismiss pet and reset the fight with a FD. I would recommend only using Mythical Healing Potions for setting up a reset as you'll probably need your potion CD for a Potion of the Tol'Vir in 2nd phase.

It's a very frustrating encounter to solo as the DPS race in the 2nd phase is so tight. After checking your armory you have much better gear than I currently do. With better gear the LoS strat, that Goldschakal mentioned 3 posts above, might be possible. Currently in my level of gear it's not possible for me to do as it sets up a sloppy transition into Phase 2 and I'm not even close to being able to tear through her health in a smaller window of time. Sadly I can only make videos of strats that my gear allows for, besides the fact that making a video of a strat that only people in heroic gear could accomplish would be a little narrow reaching for me.

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Old 05/01/12, 12:09 AM   #1041
Goldschakal
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post
Line of sight her around a corner with your pet still in line of sight and just shoot her when she is channeling Tears or you have intervene up.
You can also attack her while she casts Shadow Bolt. Its only a timewindow within 1second, but its enough for a chimera shot/mend pet.

I tried to solo Blood Council in Icecrown Citadel but they hit my pet like a train. While i take myself 20-30k hits, my pet do take 60k.
Prince Valanar's melee swing hits Yang for 66024 Physical.
Prince Valanar's melee swing hits Yang for 66321 Physical.
They even kill my pet through shell shield. I tried to kite them too, but my best try was 71%.
Now to my question: Why do they hit pets that high? One idea would be to not allow a pet tanking Keleseth (the shadow lance guy) while it was current content but his damage is actually fine.

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Old 05/05/12, 2:11 AM   #1042
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I made a little .gif animation to explain clearly the first phase of my Kilnara encounter


1. Start positions, you can go behind Kilnara with stealth. Then put your turtle ( on passiv mode ) in the corner to force Kilnara to moove the farest you can push her. Missdirection on your pet with strong threat to be sure to not get the agro.
2. Kilnara will move to get your turtle in line of sight.
3. She will stop at her spell's range ( shadow bolt )
4. From now she will almost be totaly unable to have you in line of sight when you'll be in your final position.
5. Move your hunter behind Kilnara, not too far, but not too close. you need to have exactly enough room to put your turtle between you and the boss.
6. Command your turtle to follow you.
7. Since the turtle is not attacking the boss, the pet will come straight to you.
8. The turtle should fit perfectly between you and the boss. The boss shouldn't move if you do that correctly.
9. You can now move to your principal position
10. Here you will be able to shoot at all the panthers
11. Your line of sight allow you to heal and Missdirection on your pet without being target by Kilnara's rush AND wave.

This is my way to face the first part of Kilnara's encounter. Durring the 2nd phase you can hit Kilnara durring her shadow bolt casting. Make sure use all your DOTs and to refresh your chimera strike. As you won't get hit by Kilnara's rush you won't need to use intervention to prevent it and you won't need a lot of self healing.
The 3rd phase is not affected by theses techniques as Kilnara won't target you anyway.

Edit : i just saw this video posted earlyer. Is the FD trick still work to despawn the adds ?

Edit 2 : i just tryed it today and.. it work !

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Old 05/06/12, 6:28 AM   #1043
Durendil
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Mimiron 25 solo'd

So, I made another worldfirst, and on the second try, too
He was pretty easy as long as you have jeeves and you make no mistake twice in a row in a 30-minutes phase 3.

Oh, my estimation is 100-120 mobs on the screenshot



Video here: Durendil vs Mimiron 25 (worldfirst) - YouTube

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Old 05/10/12, 7:12 PM   #1044
Caribald
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Congrats on the kill Durendil Wouldn't have thought of trying that encounter.

I streamed for just over 4 hours today of me soloing, I earned 10k gold almost exactly. 40g/minute for clearing Malygos, Sunwell, TK, SSC, BWL, BT, Onyxia and VoA. Black Temple took me 56 minutes and 25 seconds from entering BT general chat to killing Illidan, and that's 2300g in pure boss looting, then there's trash and vendoring. I also didn't take into account various gems, recipes, boes, cloth and 5 elementium ingots. It would also easily be possible to optimize a lot, skipping more trash and not looting terrible mobs (I loot everything I kill, give me aoe loot already dammit).

By the way, the 15k hp mobs in TK on the way to Solarian have been nerfed to only drop around 10 silver. Some time ago they fixed an exploit where you could respawn 30 of those mobs by killing the 2 patrols in Solarian's room, pulling her, aoeing the trash once it reached your turtle, dismissing pet and feigning death with the elite mob from each pack surviving. You would have 30 dead 15k hp mobs in the middle of the room with at least 1g gold on each. With that fixed, I wonder what made them nerf the gold to 10 silver :/ Especially since they didn't nerf it in the same round as the respawn fix.

Even longer ago they nerfed the broken slave mobs (forgot their name) in SSC to always drop 1 copper. There were only a few on each platform in the center of the instance, so it was really quite unnecessary in my opinion. I wonder if they will nerf all the mobs come MoP to not get ridiculous gold/minute from soloing, but then they should start on the bosses to be honest.

Anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there to show just how profitable soloing can be. I haven't don't MC, Naxx and Ulduar this reset since I was getting tired of soloing so I skipped that for now, but you could probably keep up a similar gold/minute in Naxx. Oh, and keep in mind my 40g/minute also counted travel time, so it wasn't ~4 hours and 9 minutes of pure killing.

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Old 05/11/12, 1:48 PM   #1045
Durendil
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Well, my personnal breakdown is, with 397 gear, and drums of forgotten kings, counting travel time from Dalaran (except for part 2 of a raid) and selling loot:
Legend: Hard: basically means there are 1 or more difficult bosses, but personnally I now easely one-shot bosses that took me some time to down, so efficacity comes from habit
Engineer: says it all

56 gold/minute BWL: 25 minute, 1400 gold + you can farm elementium ingots if someone is buying and prices are high on your server Razorgore
48 gold/minute SSC: 35 minutes, 1700 gold Vasjh
40 gold/minute SW: 45 minutes, 1800 gold Twins, M'uru
38 gold/minute BT 5 bosses: 35 minutes, 1350 gold
33 gold/minute (38-47 gold/minute): Ulduar Rush Freya + razorscale + auriaya (+ mimiron): 50 (60) minutes, 1650 gold (1850 + 500-1000 in reagents)Auriaya
35 gold/minute VA: 22 minutes, 770 gold Toravon
34 gold/minute Naxx (no maexxna, razu, KT): 55 minutes, 1900 gold Gothik
32 gold/minute TK: 35 min, 1150 gold Kael'thas
32 gold/minute BT 4 other boss: 35 minutes, 1150 gold Reliquary Council Note you can reset council, regen, than continue with them at the previous health.
26/gold minute Hyjal: 60 minutes, 1600 gold (looted ground trashes after bosses but not when a wave was in progress, no infernals, wyrms, gargoyles) Azgalor Kite him as much as possible (see naj'entus/gorefiend videos), FD when you are about to die, use lick your wounds immediately then you have 30 seconds to finish him.
21 gold/minute AQ 20 + 40 (no Cthun): 38 minutes, 820 gold Twins
23 gold/minute MC: 20 minutes, 460 gold
20 gold/minute Ulduar Hodir/Council/Ignis: 29 minutes, 570 gold
16 gold/minute Malygos: 12 minutes, 190 gold
16 gold/minute Ulduar ThorimVezaxYogg: 35 minutes, 580 gold
12 gold/minute ICC 2 bosses: 15 minutes, 210 gold
12 gold/minute ToC 2 bosses: 15 minutes, 210 gold Beasts
11 gold/minute Onyxia: 12 minutes, 140 gold

Kara, gruul and maghteridon have been nerfed to worthless.

So, I once made 20K gold in 1 week with soloing

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Old 05/11/12, 5:37 PM   #1046
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It would be fun to clear out the inventory and make a speedrun to clear everything as fast as possible one day I haven't calculated gold per minute for each instance, but just randomly noted that I had earned 10k during the night from looting and vendoring only, so I looked at the VOD and calculated it from the time I spent streaming. I actually got transformed on Chromaggus because I foolishly didn't swap to Aimed Shot after his weakness changed to non-arcane...

Also, just a small note for your list: Thorim is doable without engineering, at least if you don't get dazed. I think it's possible even without being goblin as well. I'm not entirely sure about the latter though, but I could try dodging the Lightning Ball without goblin jump and Nitro Boosts this reset since I'm not locked yet.

When you do Blackwing Lair, do you skip the goblin mobs? I think 25 minutes sounds really fast if you don't :p

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Old 05/11/12, 6:34 PM   #1047
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For blackwing lair, just AoE a pack and loot it, it takes 30 seconds and you have all the hourglass sands you need.
P.S: for chrommagus, I use survival, works better (as long as you use steady shot when he's resistant to nature).

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Old 05/19/12, 3:32 PM   #1048
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Heroic 5-men

I made a recap of my Cata heroic adventures, to be found at Durendil : Hunter soloing: Heroic instances soloing: recap

That's a lot of videos, so I'll link the most interesting ones:
Durendil vs Ammunae Heroic (worldfirst) - YouTube Because she required the most precise execution.
Durendil vs Setesh Heroic (worldfirst) - YouTube Because he's the opposite of Ammunae - no precision, just react quickly depending of what happens!
Durendil vs Throngus Heroic (hunter worldfirst) - YouTube Look at the shield phase
Durendil vs Nalorakk Heroic (worldfirst) - YouTube Because he's my new reference for gear checks (I will try the new Pandaria changes on him as soon as they get live)

And, the list of bosses who are happily waiting for a hunter who is bored with old raids (not much left to solo there) or Dragon soul.

Mindbender gur'sha: you need to tank him, and he hits hard (hunter survival)
Ascendant lord obsidius: nasty DoT (hunter survival)
Dragha shadowburner: shadow bolts (hunter survival)
Erudax: need lots of dps
Akil'zon: massive damage on hunter (hunter survival)
Halazzi: Massive damage on pet, self-healing... there could be a strategy to kill him.
Drakaara: Massive damage in lynx phase (bear is impossible) (hunter/pet survival)
Mandokir: Decapitate!
Edge of madness
Echo of Baine
Echo of Sylvanas
Murozond
All hour of twilight
All well of eternity

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Old 05/29/12, 4:42 AM   #1049
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Is it just me or have they made Kael'thas impossible recently? Twice I got him down to like 35% before he would one shot my pet and I literally wasnt able to summon a new one.

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Old 05/29/12, 2:26 PM   #1050
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You haven't exactly provided a lot of information, but based on your observations my best guess is your pet is too close to the boss during the air phase, resulting in multiple stacks of the nether vapor (I think that's the name) debuff that lowers max HP by a big chuck. If you don't have your pet's absolute HP visible to you it will look like kael'thas is suddenly doing a lot more damage when in fact he is doing the same damage, but a higher % of your pet's reduced HP.

As for not being able to summon a new one, I really doubt blizzard actually changed something like this. Are you trying to summon a new pet immediately after your old pet dies? If so, you can't do that. Once a pet dies it has to be revived before you can call a new one.

If you want actual analysis, you'll have to post a log or at least a video.

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