Hunters: Soloing old instances for fun and profit - Page 71

japp1egate · 06/16/12, 5:37 AM

Okay. I was a terminal uber-doofus and asked this on one of Durendil's YouTube videos - I Choose You, Steelbreaker! - and now I'm asking here, where the question belongs.

Has any Hunter out there managed to solo all the achieves for Glory of the Ulduar Raider yet? If so, what would the gearing/spec requirements look like? If not, why not?

I guess what I'd really love to see is something like a recommended gear-level/spec for soloing instanced content - maybe like a list, sorted on original instance/raid level showing, for example:

70 Karazhan - 70-75 challenging, 76-80 suitable, 80-85 trivial

Sort of like what we see on our Armory pages but aimed specifically at soloing content.

What do you all think?

Caribald · 06/17/12, 10:47 AM

Not every Glory of the Ulduar Raider is possible to solo. Some of them could possibly be doable in absolute BiS gear, but I will go over them:

Orbit-uary is apparently possible if your vehicles somehow don't explode, I don't know how though, I haven't bothered with it more than a handful attempts. Since my vehicles kept exploding, I just gave up on that.

I'm not sure about Stokin' the Furnace, could be possible with insane gear but I'm not entirely sure. I don't remember my usual time to kill Ignis but according to DBM, which on this harddrive only has 3 kills, my best is 4:47, but I could probably improve that. With absolute BiS gear I'm pretty certain it could be done.

I haven't tried Crazy Cat Lady, but I'm almost certain it's impossible. Her cats will absolutely shred you and your pet needs a cooldown up to tank Auriaya and her cats. The cats are too fast to do any sort of kiting, and they will jump you from ridiculous lengths. If someone is actually crazy enough to try this I would be interested in seeing the results

I Could Say That This Cache Was Rare could again be doable with MAX gear, survival spec and PERFECT play. It would need crazy execution since you basically have no self healing, you need to knock the NPCs around perfectly, stand in a light beam + close to a fire and keep up Singed. It would be insanely hard but probably not impossible with the best gear and perfect execution.

So yeah, 4 hard/impossible ones, rest are basically easy at least if you have decent gear. Algalon isn't needed for Glory of the Ulduar Raider, but if you are below 400 ilvl forget it, if you are at 400, be prepared to practice for 2 days

As for when things become doable / easy, I just WISH I had written down my item levels for each of my kills!

The only one I really remember is Algalon with 400.1 ilvl, but that was with a pvp ring since it was 25 ilvls higher than my pve ring, and the higher agi made it better.

In Mists it would be cool to do what you suggested though, basically write down ilvl and spec for each soloed encounter when done for the first time. One could even make a chart where it's kind of like a timeline, except instead of time it would be an ilvl-meter and then you had arrows showing at which ilvl each boss was killed. That way you could easily see which bosses would be doable with your gear and how hard each boss is relative to the others.

Durendil · 06/18/12, 1:29 PM

Well, another way do to that is to look at the video of the first kill. Basically: when was it done? Gives you the max ilvl. How much dps on recount? Makes you capable of comparing. And a rather good method: the health pool. I solo'd void reaver with 104K health unbuffed, now I have (in 397 gear) 164K unbuffed. It gives you a pretty good idea of the gear used.

Hamsda · 06/20/12, 9:57 AM

Originally Posted by Caribald

I haven't tried Crazy Cat Lady, but I'm almost certain it's impossible. Her cats will absolutely shred you and your pet needs a cooldown up to tank Auriaya and her cats. The cats are too fast to do any sort of kiting, and they will jump you from ridiculous lengths. If someone is actually crazy enough to try this I would be interested in seeing the results

Crazy Cat Lady only requires you to kill her guardian until he runs out of his 9 lives. I have not tried soloing ulduar with my hunter twink but when we went back there and did this on 25 man with a few people mostly anyone in the raid could have done the part after her first cats solo, because it consists mostly of waiting for the guardian to respawn and walking out of the puddles he releases when he dies after getting feared.

Caribald · 06/22/12, 5:41 PM

Originally Posted by Hamsda

Crazy Cat Lady only requires you to kill her guardian until he runs out of his 9 lives. I have not tried soloing ulduar with my hunter twink but when we went back there and did this on 25 man with a few people mostly anyone in the raid could have done the part after her first cats solo, because it consists mostly of waiting for the guardian to respawn and walking out of the puddles he releases when he dies after getting feared.

Nah, you're thinking of the achievement "Nine Lives". The achievement needed for Glory of the Ulduar Raider is "Crazy Cat Lady", which requires you to keep her Sanctum Sentries alive (the ones she spawns with - two on 10 man and four on 25 man). Nine Lives is indeed easy, it is only a matter of waiting it out.

Hamsda · 06/25/12, 7:03 AM

Originally Posted by Caribald

Nah, you're thinking of the achievement "Nine Lives". The achievement needed for Glory of the Ulduar Raider is "Crazy Cat Lady", which requires you to keep her Sanctum Sentries alive (the ones she spawns with - two on 10 man and four on 25 man). Nine Lives is indeed easy, it is only a matter of waiting it out.

Oh you are totally right, got those two mixed up >.<
But yeah, keeping them alive was really crazy with a full raid in ulduar days and is probably not doable for now with a hunter...

japp1egate · 06/29/12, 2:02 AM

Odd query - I've seen a number of folks' videos on soloing Sunwell Plateau bosses, but I've never seen anyone working on the trash. Is the trash in Sunwell too big of a pain in the arse to work through, or do people just really prefer the bosses? Yeah, I understand that bosses are the meat-and-potatoes of any raid instance, but I'd like to know how best to deal with (i.e. eliminate) trash packs, too.

Durendil · 06/29/12, 5:08 AM

Actually, all trash is skippable, except many between bosses 3 and 4 (because they run very fast and ignore feign death). Just send your pet and multi-shot them.
For the other trash, they shouldn't be a problem.

japp1egate · 06/29/12, 5:48 AM

I know the trash is skippable, but Sunwell trash drops patterns that I'd really like for my leatherworking Hunter, as well as Shivering Felspine. I know, I know - melee weapons are going away in MoP, but that's not the point.

I've tried the send-pet-and-multi-them-all approach, but (even with mend rolling at all times) my pet inevitably dies pretty quickly. Is there a particular strategy per-pack that I should be considering? Any particular mobs I should focus on or such?

Thanks!

Arcane36 · 06/29/12, 12:52 PM

Recently there has been a few classes that were able to solo Alysrazor. Do you think it is even possible for hunter to somehow solo this encounter?

Caribald · 06/30/12, 5:42 PM

Originally Posted by japp1egate

I know the trash is skippable, but Sunwell trash drops patterns that I'd really like for my leatherworking Hunter, as well as Shivering Felspine. I know, I know - melee weapons are going away in MoP, but that's not the point.

I've tried the send-pet-and-multi-them-all approach, but (even with mend rolling at all times) my pet inevitably dies pretty quickly. Is there a particular strategy per-pack that I should be considering? Any particular mobs I should focus on or such?

Thanks!

The only mob that does any real damage is the Sunblade Slayer due to its percentage based DoT. For the packs that have that mob you'll want to either burn it down right away or use Freezing Trap while you kill the rest. If it casts the dot (I believe it's called Slaying Shot) on you, you need to Intervene - if on your pet, use Shell Shield or Cower. It should never be allowed to cast it more than once per pack and Intervene will be ready for each pull.

Originally Posted by Arcane36

Recently there has been a few classes that were able to solo Alysrazor. Do you think it is even possible for hunter to somehow solo this encounter?

I remember reaching the conclusion that it can't be done by hunters, but I don't remember the details, and I haven't actually given it a shot... sometimes you will only figure it out after trying. I wouldn't get my hopes up though :/

Durendil · 07/01/12, 5:41 PM

I gave Alysrazor a shot (like 3-4 hours of try) and discovered that phase 1 is doable, but I always died during the firestorm (you can use deterrence to make the dot stop stacking, but it still deals a lot of damage). Beside, Alys definitely wasn't at 66% at the end of the phase (more like 75-80%, even with glyphed aimed shot and good use of rings).

The trash before her is also fun

Arcane36 · 07/02/12, 5:12 AM

Maybe in MoP, when we will have aprox. 350k HP, it will be doable. Even damage will be higher, so I think that we just need to wait

Durendil: btw have you tried the trick with getting 2 stacks from one ring?

Caribald · 07/02/12, 5:48 AM

I tried her as well and couldn't survive either after a standard phase. I also got her to about 75% the few tries I did. The trash was a fun challenge though, figuring out how to do it took a while but eventually you learn the mechanics so you can easily do it repeatedly if you wanted.

And yeah, I suppose it will be easy in MoP, health pool should be high enough to survive the damage and we might even have enough dps to just kill her before she lands the first time.

Steevnash · 07/06/12, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Durendil

56 gold/minute BWL: 25 minute, 1400 gold + you can farm elementium ingots if someone is buying and prices are high on your server Razorgore
48 gold/minute SSC: 35 minutes, 1700 gold Vasjh
40 gold/minute SW: 45 minutes, 1800 gold Twins, M'uru

If you want to spend a little time on the AH listing drops you could spend some time in ZG doing the mini-bosses, I do 4 of the bosses in about 9 minutes, door to door, averaging out to like 45 gold/minute after I list the drops.

Video of the path I take here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fouMVs9HOqo