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04/24/09, 6:52 AM
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#201
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by duran
Has anyone noticed a significant increase to the damage pets take after this tuesday and all these updates the past few days? I was previously able to consistently solo, first try, attumen with my gorilla. Now all of my healing abilities cant keep up with the dps of midnight and attumen. Also, my gorilla needs a lot more healing on trash in kara as well compared to last week. Possible stealth nerf to something?
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Haven't noticed this myself; just soloed Attumen for the second time since 3.1 and like last week the trash didnt pose much threat (pet died once i believe, but due to me getting feared out of sight with BW on cooldown) and on Attumen p1 the bear came close to dying once, but didnt die in the end, making it another oneshot.
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04/24/09, 7:58 AM
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#202
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Took quite a few tries but I finally managed to solo Ayamiss the Hunter in AQ20.
Will put some stuff in my other post later.
It is a fight that depends alot on luck in phase 2 
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04/24/09, 8:04 AM
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#203
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Ishamael
*snip*
Can't do Hydra.. I can no fish 
Going to try to find someone to fish him up for me then hearth >.<
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I have no idea how bad is the level 1 fishing in high fishing areas (trash vs fish catches), but to get your hopes up you can level really quickly to 100. Get the Kaluak fishing pole (or even the +25 one from hinterlands) +30, fishing attractor +100 and you are already at 225-230 fishing. This means you are able to catch those things with a nice consistency from the schools.
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04/24/09, 9:26 AM
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#204
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Doomhammer (EU)
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You don't actually need fishing on your hunter at all to summon the Hydra. To summon that boss you need 2 things: a
'quest' item which you buy from Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh for 1g a piece after you have completed the quest starting in ZG, the second item being 5 x Zulian Mudskunk which do need to be fished out the ZG pools. However, to actually use the items (summoning the boss) you wont need fishing at all, or even have completed the quest.
In my case, on my hunter i have fishing and get 10-15 fishes each ZG reset, i use 5 to summon my own Gazhranka, the remaining 5 i send to my priest who summons Gazhranka in her own instance when doing ZG duo with a warrior friend (who in turn helps me in Sethek Halls on his druid alt for bird mount), even though she doesnt have fishing and has not completed that quest.
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04/24/09, 10:44 AM
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#205
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Hunter
Blackhand (EU)
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One question regarding healing threat - to whom is it transfered?
When I heal via mend pet, will I get the threat per healing tick or my pet or nobody? Same wit 2T5, me, pet, no one?
Thank you
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04/24/09, 11:22 AM
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#206
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Hirgux
One question regarding healing threat - to whom is it transfered?
When I heal via mend pet, will I get the threat per healing tick or my pet or nobody? Same wit 2T5, me, pet, no one?
Thank you
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Ah, good question; Mend Pet will give threat to you, 2xt5 however causes ZERO threat - not even initial threat. Same goes for the Spirit Bond heal: zero threat. I'm assuming the new Silverback heal (even though its a small one) gives some extra threat to the pet, but i didnt do any tests on this.
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04/24/09, 12:41 PM
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#207
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Vek'nilash
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Has anyone tried to solo Black Wing Lair? I was wondering if it was possible to solo.
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04/24/09, 1:28 PM
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#208
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Edit:
Added in Ayamiss to my other post.
Unfortunately his post is larger then the rest of AQ20 put together, if anyone wants to re-write it they are free to do so:P
Also its 5am.. so bed time >.<
Original:
Even if you get to him, the second boss Vaelastrasz the Corrupt will kill you with Burning Adrenaline.
So no, not possible.
Burning Adrenaline
-Damage done increased by 100%.
-Attack speed increased by 100%.
-Spells become instant cast.
-Reduces max health by 5% every second; eventually causes player to die.
Last edited by Ishamael : 04/24/09 at 3:53 PM.
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04/25/09, 12:25 AM
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#209
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Piston Honda
Tauren Paladin
Mal'Ganis (EU)
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I just did MgT heroic (Naxx25 Gear, Gorilla, No 2T5) for the first time, 2nd and 3rd boss gave me a hard time but finally managed to kill them.
But the princess didn't drop anything. I killed the princess first right at the starting point, kited the other mobs as far as the 2nd bosses chamber and kited the last one (shaman) back to the corpse of the princess before I killed it but no luck :< Anyone ever had that problem before?
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04/25/09, 4:23 AM
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#210
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Tharia
I just did MgT heroic (Naxx25 Gear, Gorilla, No 2T5) for the first time, 2nd and 3rd boss gave me a hard time but finally managed to kill them.
But the princess didn't drop anything. I killed the princess first right at the starting point, kited the other mobs as far as the 2nd bosses chamber and kited the last one (shaman) back to the corpse of the princess before I killed it but no luck :< Anyone ever had that problem before?
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This has happened to me as well. I'm not sure what is causing it, though.
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04/25/09, 6:08 AM
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#211
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Tharia
I just did MgT heroic (Naxx25 Gear, Gorilla, No 2T5) for the first time, 2nd and 3rd boss gave me a hard time but finally managed to kill them.
But the princess didn't drop anything. I killed the princess first right at the starting point, kited the other mobs as far as the 2nd bosses chamber and kited the last one (shaman) back to the corpse of the princess before I killed it but no luck :< Anyone ever had that problem before?
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Soloed heroic MgT without 2xt5? Impressive :o
About that bug, i have had it too at times. Sometimes i have killed her right where she starts, along with rest of group, and other times i have kited her and her goons through the instance, killing them one at a time. Both scenario's i couldnt loot her on certain days, so it doesnt depend on where you kill her. I think it has got something to do with killing Delrissa and her adds too far apart, not sure though. I have also seen them reset once while they were following me, just like that
Anyway, soloed MgT without 2xt5 is pretty awesome
(I would still advice you to get 2t5 though, just to save some frustration)
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04/25/09, 8:49 AM
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#212
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Piston Honda
Tauren Paladin
Mal'Ganis (EU)
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My guild is quite lazy when it comes to old content it seems ^^ and those 10 min enrage timers kind of say NONONO to iron maning Leo and lootreaver with a healer :< How many people would I need for those?
For Vexallus I think I had more problems with my own hp than my pets. I let my pet kill the first 2-3 sparks and got the next two myself (IIRC, it was all a bit chaotic) and then left the next ones for my pet, I think the pet was was at 5 stacks when the boss died. Didn't even have to use Last Stand but a hp potion for myself. To be fair, my gear is quite evolved, had the luck of winning wrathstone (awesome for BW) and Giants Bane on the first two runs.
I used a unique pet build only for this boss ( Pet Calculator - Wowhead), Great Resistance really helps in this fight and you don't need thunderclap or armor for him. Easy pet respecs are quite a great thing dual spec did for soloing stuff ^^
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04/25/09, 9:06 AM
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#213
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Got Buru to 2.2% tonight. Means he is soloable, which means all of AQ20 is soloable.
Very pissed when I died that close 
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04/25/09, 11:15 AM
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#214
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Doomhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Tharia
My guild is quite lazy when it comes to old content it seems ^^ and those 10 min enrage timers kind of say NONONO to iron maning Leo and lootreaver with a healer :< How many people would I need for those?
For Vexallus I think I had more problems with my own hp than my pets. I let my pet kill the first 2-3 sparks and got the next two myself (IIRC, it was all a bit chaotic) and then left the next ones for my pet, I think the pet was was at 5 stacks when the boss died. Didn't even have to use Last Stand but a hp potion for myself. To be fair, my gear is quite evolved, had the luck of winning wrathstone (awesome for BW) and Giants Bane on the first two runs.
I used a unique pet build only for this boss ( Pet Calculator - Wowhead), Great Resistance really helps in this fight and you don't need thunderclap or armor for him. Easy pet respecs are quite a great thing dual spec did for soloing stuff ^^
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The best way to deal with second boss MgT (which i posted 1 or 2 pages earlier i think) was to kill one spark myself and let all the remaining sparks go to the bear, and thats where i thought 2xt5 was mandatory. For me personally this was the perfect balance of threat, incoming damage, outgoing damage and healing on pet. The fact i kill one spark myself (+50% damage) means also more healing on pet, who in turn gets more damage from killing sparks ofcourse. Gotta love how at the end of the fight the bear fills half the room with 10 stacks of the buff and Bestial Wrath
Also, i use a simple line in my steady shot macro (which i keep in there at all times) which makes sure my pet prioritizes on those sparks (think their name is Power Surge, dont remember the name at this point, or the simple macro for that matter). It's not needed ofcourse, but combined with 2xt5 it trivializes this encounter making it just a tank and spank fight. Finally got the Hawk mount few days ago, along with 5 orbs trying to get it, so no more MgT for me >_<
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04/25/09, 1:21 PM
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#215
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Banned
Blood Elf Hunter
Runetotem (EU)
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I just tried Tharia's petbuild in MgT. And it worked. Until then I hadn't been able to get him below 20%, this time I just made it with the use of a potion and a timely Kill Shot crit. It could have been more comfortable if I had not let a Pure Energy get too close.
Unfortunately the macroline I used to get my pet to kill the Pure Energy didn't seem to work.
/petattack [target=Pure Energy, exists]
It constantly went back to Vex even if I forced it to attack. Quite annoying. This was also the reason that Pure Energy managed to get close to me.
So Vex is definately soloable without T5.
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04/26/09, 12:26 AM
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#216
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Finally managed to down Buru the Gorger
A really annoying and long fight, got to be a better way to do it somehow >.<
Kited him between the eggs blowing one up whenever he speed up, to many eggs to fast = no eggs and to many critters. Pet dealt with adds and killed eggs if free.
You need as much HP and mana as possible before 20% as you will have very little time to kill him.
Sending my pet to the far side then feigning can buy egg dps time. Just don't forget to pull Buru off your pet or tell your pet you run to you because your pet can not tank him.
Disengage can jump you across the deep water or away from him, you will need it a lot.
Anyhow AQ20 cleared, back to MC.
Anyone tested Jindo in ZG this week to see if they still get HP back on mind controls?
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Hit a brick wall now due to my lack of 2T5
So far:
ZG: Killed all but Jindo
AQ20: Killed All
MC: Killed Lucifron, Magmadar, Gehennas, Baron Geddon and Shazzrah
Anyone managed to kill the remaining guys in MC without 2T5 or will I really need it?
Last edited by Ishamael : 04/26/09 at 6:01 AM.
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04/26/09, 7:08 PM
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#217
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Tharia
My guild is quite lazy when it comes to old content it seems ^^ and those 10 min enrage timers kind of say NONONO to iron maning Leo and lootreaver with a healer :< How many people would I need for those?
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5 can easily do loot reaver, probably leo too by that point.
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04/27/09, 2:24 PM
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#218
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Warrior
Stormscale
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Originally Posted by Ishamael
MC: Killed Lucifron, Magmadar, Gehennas, Baron Geddon and Shazzrah
Anyone managed to kill the remaining guys in MC without 2T5 or will I really need it?
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Sulfuron is easy with 2T5, I doubt he is doable without it.
Anyone tried Garr with crocolisk yet? No time to level mine.
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04/28/09, 5:55 AM
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#219
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Eredar (EU)
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Was anybody able to kill Garr or Geddon since 3.1 has gone live?
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04/28/09, 6:01 AM
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#220
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Great Tiger
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Pootch
Was anybody able to kill Garr or Geddon since 3.1 has gone live?
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I've killed Geddon every reset so far, including the day the patch went live. I already have Garr's bindings so I haven't tried him.
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04/28/09, 6:38 AM
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#221
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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Geddon
Geddon is simple as long as you either:
Use 3T1 to mend pet from 40+ yards and let the pet kill him (Get at least one shot in to get kill credit).
Have Hawk Eye to safely stand outside his 40yard range and dps him. Having 3T1 helps here a little if your pet wants to tank him from the far side.
The Hawk eye method is far far faster, if your doing the pet kill strat try to hit him towards the end of the fight, getting the mana burn debuff at the start is... bad.
Garr:
Without 2T5 I couldn't keep my failbear up.
Ragnaros:
Do his firespawns disappear if you FD?
I did this with a resto druid today who died early on and I FD'd after my pet latched onto a few and got up right away.
I thought I saw a few despawn but I might have just imagined it.
The adds are all that is stopping my soloing Ragy at the moment, though I would love 2T5 to help with healing >.<
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04/28/09, 7:28 AM
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#222
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Blackmoore (EU)
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Originally Posted by Pootch
Was anybody able to kill Garr or Geddon since 3.1 has gone live?
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I was able to kill him with a crocolisk last week. I used two pieces T5 + Living Ice Crystals. It took me some trys.
Strat: heal pet -> MD pull one add on pet -> pop all cds (bad attitude, KC + BW) -> focus add until pet has 50% hp -> use volley until aggro from adds -> fd -> more ae
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- Mend Pet must always be up. Remember: Garr can dispell Mend Pet.
- use KS to finish the focus target fast
- use MS for some fast heal
- focus dmg > volley as long your pet ist over 50% hp
Mana is an issue in this fight. AotV should only be used after 5-6 adds died. I used the Glyph of Volley in the third slot. The other two glyphs are obviosly BW + Mending.
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05/01/09, 9:58 PM
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#223
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Glass Joe
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So what would the best soloing pet be? I have a 80 gorilla atm, wondering if anything else is better... And correct me if
I'm wrong but ferocity pets are best for soloing Onyxia? And what would be the difficulty of acquiring 2t5
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05/01/09, 11:31 PM
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#224
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Aman'Thul
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The difficulty of acquiring 2t5 is finding a group.
Nearly any pickup group is going to result in everyone rolling for the Tier token even though they don't actually need it.
For mass AoE pets I would probably say Croc or maybe Bear for the extra threat from Bad Attitude/Swipe.
For something that hits hard probably a Turtle for the mini-shield wall.
I personally use my Ferocity pet for Onyxia. He heals himself and his higher DPS results in a faster phase 2.
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05/02/09, 3:00 AM
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#225
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Glass Joe
Orc Hunter
Magtheridon (EU)
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Currently I am using a Worm because they start at level 80 (Yes, I hate leveling pets) and for their spit ( Nature damage and reducing its armor by 10% per Acid Spit for 30 sec. Can be applied up to 2 times.)
Now I found another pet that I find interesting, I just want to hear your thoughts about it.
Warp Stalker
Warp
Teleports to an enemy up to 30 yards away and gives the pet a 50% chance to avoid the next 3 melee attacks. Lasts 4 sec.
15 sec cooldown
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With 3/3 Longevity that would make it 11.5 Sec CD (My math sucks so I apologize if I got this wrong) and assuming that the pet can use it even thought its in melee range wouldnt this pet be good on 1on1 bosses?
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