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02/03/09, 3:36 PM
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#26
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by iamthehendrix
Anyone got a blue or GM confirmation for frost trap not triggering the internal CD of LNL to be intended or a bug?
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One would assume from the wording in Lock and Load that it is unintended but this is just semantics.
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02/03/09, 6:40 PM
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#27
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Von Kaiser
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Delete pls.
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02/04/09, 1:19 PM
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#28
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Hates being an orc
Orc Hunter
Steamwheedle Cartel
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People are reporting another potential bug with Malygos - arcane breath hitting people who are standing behind him without a change in direction. One theory posits that pets are getting hit by the breath and living through it, but bringing the debuff to other members of the raid as they reposition and the debuff ticks off. World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> [BUG] Malygos Arcane Breath
Someone posted a video in that thread that would account for this behavior, and if you'll accept my anecdotal evidence I can say with certainty that it fits the behavior of what my guild experienced last night. Several attempts saw very strange behavior with Malygos basically doing an "arcane fart" and hitting people who were clearly behind him (including ranged people) and this was even acknowledged by the officers. We did an attempt with no pets after someone found a similar bug report, and this behavior disappeared completely.
I'm not sure if this would be considered a bug with pet pathing, a bug with pets getting the debuff in general, or if it's merely a pathing issue that we need to adjust to. I tend to think pets should just not get the debuff, the same way they can't trigger flame wreath on Aran, etc. After this patch, I noticed that my pet despawns during a vortex and respawns immediately after. As long as he's on passive (or defensive and I do not attack) there appears to be negligible hesitation in him running away from Malygos with me, so I find it unlikely that he is the source of these breath debuffs. I am not sure how death knight pets behave though, and I know that they received some changes this patch.
If anyone has any ideas on how to test this further - whether or not it's a bug or a pathing issue we need to solve - that would be great.
Last edited by Esoth : 02/04/09 at 1:20 PM.
Reason: fix URL
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02/05/09, 1:37 PM
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#29
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Von Kaiser
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I got hit with the FD bug a lot this week, luckily my tanks and healers are on the ball so I never died from it, but damn that's rididculous. Surv is already a massive TPS spec, not being able to dump it as needed is not fun.
It varied from having all shots on CD so SrS was ticking to my first shot on a mob (trash on gothik) that kept hitting me while FDed, with other dps hitting the mob. Omen even showed my threat not lowering, even after getting back up.
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02/05/09, 2:28 PM
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#30
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Banned
Blood Elf Hunter
Staghelm
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Now that they've fixed shadowmeld there appears to be no good aggro wipe on Malygos. I'm just constantly misdirecting and having to pull back on damage sometimes in order not to pull threat. It would be a much easier fight if i was able to feign death.
I've noticed strange behavior when misdirecting then using explosive shot, now i just use aimed and arcane as they seem to work in a consistent way.
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02/05/09, 5:54 PM
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#31
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Glass Joe
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Ah so this is most likely a glitch. I just assumed Malygos was too clever for such things. The other hunter and I had to keep rolling misdirects on that guy, and even then I had to hold back a lot. I ended up like next to last on DPS for him, but I did die like 10 seconds before he did in the third phase and missed out on a lot of DOT tickage.
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02/05/09, 6:41 PM
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#32
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Piston Honda
Draenei Hunter
Jaedenar (EU)
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Originally Posted by mdavid01
Now that they've fixed shadowmeld there appears to be no good aggro wipe on Malygos. I'm just constantly misdirecting and having to pull back on damage sometimes in order not to pull threat. It would be a much easier fight if i was able to feign death.
I've noticed strange behavior when misdirecting then using explosive shot, now i just use aimed and arcane as they seem to work in a consistent way.
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It's been confirmed by GM's to me, that Misdirection + explosive shot is bugged at the moment, meaning explosive shot eats up all the charges, and the first tick then gives the hunter threat. It's a known bug.
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02/06/09, 2:05 AM
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#33
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Don Flamenco
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Can anyone confirm or deny that Call of the Wild no longer stacks with TSA and other +10% AP buffs?
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02/06/09, 2:36 AM
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#34
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Hunter
Moonglade (EU)
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Originally Posted by Rezdan
Can anyone confirm or deny that Call of the Wild no longer stacks with TSA and other +10% AP buffs?
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As posted in Hunter: Simple questions/Simple Answers, I tested it with a level 69 enchance shaman and his Unleashed Rage did stack with my cat's Call of the Wild.
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02/09/09, 6:11 PM
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#35
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Banned
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I still top the DPS chart for our team on Malygos. We encountered this FD issue heavily on our last run though, and so we'd had to pull back on the dps and manage MD appropriately. Really not a big deal since phase 1 is the easiest of the phases (until everyone masters phase 3).
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02/11/09, 9:17 PM
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#36
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Thunderhorn (EU)
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So went malygos tonight (11th Feb: patch 3.0.9) and FD still wasn't working: expected since there wasn't a mention of a fix in patch notes as far as I could see. Phase one, nuking away, get vortex and drawn into melee, go to hit raptor, which is right beside my FD button, miss raptor button and hit FD by mistake... and lost all my threat. Now this i was quite suprised by, having never had an effective FD on maly that I can remember...
The other hunter in our raid has also never had FD work on maly, so I got him to try it in the next vortex and it worked for him.
Now when I say worked; the threat was clearing for omen and we didn't pull aggro, even though we were each very high when we hit FD in the vortex.
Has anyone else experienced FD working properly while in the vortex? Is this a new thing with 3.0.9? I wish I could remember using FD in a vortex prior to today but I seriously can't remember.
Last edited by Darrknar : 02/11/09 at 9:22 PM.
Reason: Added detail about other Hunter.
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02/11/09, 10:04 PM
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#37
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Don Flamenco
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For Malygos10 last night my FD was working outside of Vortex too.
I don't remember if it worked during Maly25 though.
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02/11/09, 10:37 PM
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#38
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Piston Honda
Draenei Shaman
Spirestone
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FD was working for me on Malygos 25 last night.
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02/12/09, 12:42 AM
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#39
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sylvand
FD was working for me on Malygos 25 last night.
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It did for me as well both in and out of vortex.
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02/12/09, 1:38 AM
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#40
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Banned
Blood Elf Hunter
Runetotem (EU)
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Oh this will be an improvement. Being the top DPS and having to MD and go with periods of Auto-AFK and what-not is definately not pleasant. Especially when you are not getting him down because DPS is too low in Phase 1.
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02/12/09, 4:21 AM
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#41
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Glass Joe
Troll Hunter
Ясеневый лес (EU)
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FD definitely working on Malygos 25, at least outside vortex. Can survive phase-1 wipes now when a spark is missed! 
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02/12/09, 9:22 AM
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#42
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Thunderhorn (EU)
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Hmm, very weird, didn't notice it working outside of vortex last night, but by the responses here looks like this "intentional but undesirable" mechanic, as I think it was phrased in the Blizz response has been fixed? If so, at least we don't have to really worry about rolling MD spam 
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02/12/09, 1:52 PM
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#43
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Glass Joe
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FD confirmed to work on both Maly 10 and 25 last night as long as hunters didn't have agro. When both hunters did pull once in 25 man and once in 10 man, the FD failed.
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02/12/09, 5:44 PM
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#44
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Hates being an orc
Orc Hunter
Steamwheedle Cartel
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Originally Posted by 2ndworst
FD confirmed to work on both Maly 10 and 25 last night as long as hunters didn't have agro. When both hunters did pull once in 25 man and once in 10 man, the FD failed.
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Do you mean it got resisted or it just didn't work? There's always been a bit of client to server delay from what I can tell, so if you FD on a boss standing right next to you there's a good chance you'll be hit before the server realizes you've feigned.
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02/12/09, 5:55 PM
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#45
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Glass Joe
Orc Hunter
Das Syndikat (EU)
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Originally Posted by 2ndworst
FD confirmed to work on both Maly 10 and 25 last night as long as hunters didn't have agro. When both hunters did pull once in 25 man and once in 10 man, the FD failed.
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Never Pull with Explosive Shot, it's a Bug, only the First Tick an Aggro become the Tank.
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02/12/09, 6:09 PM
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#46
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Leandros
Never Pull with Explosive Shot, it's a Bug, only the First Tick an Aggro become the Tank.
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How did you get that we are pulling with ES out of that? The bug has been with us a while and we never pull with it.
@Estoh
Good point and when I get to my gaming machine i will check the log.
Last edited by 2ndworst : 02/13/09 at 1:37 AM.
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02/12/09, 6:27 PM
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#47
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Bald Bull
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Hm. He merrily beat the stuffing out of me as I lay face down on the ground last night for 25man, I assumed it was just the usual bug, but perhaps it was a resist I didn't notice.
Will check again tonight.
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02/15/09, 5:30 PM
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#48
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Glass Joe
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FD worked on Malygos 10 man 14/2 Aman'thul and Nagrand realms.
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02/16/09, 11:40 PM
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#49
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Rezdan
Can anyone confirm or deny that Call of the Wild no longer stacks with TSA and other +10% AP buffs?
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I'm marks, and my cat's call of the wild stacks with my TSA. If I hit it and my 650 ap trink when Mirror procs, I'm getting like 8k ap raid buffed for 10 sec or so. Gives me one very big serpent sting.
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02/17/09, 11:25 PM
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#50
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Geebos
FD worked on Malygos 10 man 14/2 Aman'thul and Nagrand realms.
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Worked on our 25 man yesterday too. OMG at how much easier it made the fight when our hunters didnt have to resort to autoattack and melee to not go over 110%. Phenomenal fight, 3 sparks dps is extremely fun.
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